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Metroid Prime 4
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13-06-2017 6:10pm#1
Not a lot is known besides it being made by a “talented new development team.” The game will still be overseen by longtime producer Kensuke Tanabe, who produced the previous Metroid Prime games. Nintendo didn’t reveal additional details about development, but did confirm that the game is still a first-person adventure and will be released “beyond 2017.”
Back in 2015, Tababe told IGN what he wanted in a new Prime sequel, explaining that there is "still more I want to build around the story of Sylux and Samus. There’s something going on between them. I want to make a game that touches upon [it]." He added at the time that "in that eventual game between Sylux and Samus that might get made, that I want to involve the [Galactic] Federation as well." For now, we don't know if this will actually be the story of Metroid Prime 4 or if plans have changed since then.
http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/06/17/e3-2015-what-metroid-primes-producer-wants-in-the-next-sequel5
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It's vague enough that they could have theoretically started this last week (with producing that trailer).
This game could actually be years away.
I heard a rumour it'll be the last big game produced for the Switch, & will also be a launch lineup for the next Ninty console which is codenamed: Nintendo Dimmer Switch....
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Eurogamer have updated their previous story about Bandai Namco Singapore working on Metroid Prime 4.
[UPDATE: Since publication I've heard Bandai Namco's Japan studio is also working on the project, with the intention it will now take the lead on its development while Singapore moves to focus on another Switch game]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-08-yes-namco-bandai-is-working-on-metroid-prime-4
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Rumour: Metroid Prime 4 Could Have Online Multiplayer According To LinkedIn Evidence
https://mynintendonews.com/2018/02/15/rumour-metroid-prime-4-could-have-online-multiplayer-according-to-linkedin-evidence/
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Mario and Zelda games aren't played in 1st person, neither should Metroid in my opinion. For some aspects(e.g. shooting and scanning), yes, but I don't think it should be the predominant view.
Apples and oranges though. Mario and Zelda aren't FPS games, and FP would radically alter the gameplay of those two (not that I'd want a FP Mario/Zelda). Frankly I find it somewhat ridiculous in 3rd that you can continue to run in one direction, and rotate the screen in a full sphere around the character, makes you feel less like link and more like Navi
FP can be a great mechanic to make a game more immersive in that regard.
I also don't like games that switch from 3rd for exploring to 1st for shooting, just feels janky. Pick one or the other, because combining ruins the game flow. And that was one thing the Prime trilogy nailed was a great game flow [marred by the staged spin jump bits - which would make for horrible FP view :pac:]0 -
By the time Metroid Prime 4 comes out, the PS5 and Nextbox will be on the market. How is it going to wow people? Mario and Zelda can get around the limitations of the hardware by being cartoony or by using a certain style like cel-shading. Metroid Prime 4 won't be able to do this if it uses a more realistic looking graphical style as is largely expected.
It's call Xbox Series X, not "Nextbox". :rolleyes:
Doesn't the Switch handle "more realistic" looking games just fine when created by competent developers? Most folks on here said The Witcher 3 looks pretty good. Personally I hope they don't go too realistic with Prime 4 - just give us a 1080p version of the GC game and I'll be happy.Why can't we have both 1st person and 3rd person elements? The game would be all the better for it. Super Metroid was amazing, but the switch to 1st person in Prime, nerfed Samus. When the game originally started development, they tried 3rd person, but they couldn't handle it. There was a reason though why they tried 3rd person.
The reason they tried something different is because they wanted to evolve the franchise - and thank god they did because what we got was brilliant. I'm not sure, maybe you were too young to have played Prime when it first released on the GameCube - it was an incredible change. Exactly like Mario 64 was, exactly like Ocarina of Time was - you had to be there to appreciate how amazing they were because they went in a different direction and were implemented brilliantly.
Would you have been happy if Mario and Zelda never moved on from their 2D versions?Mario and Zelda games aren't played in 1st person, neither should Metroid in my opinion. For some aspects(e.g. shooting and scanning), yes, but I don't think it should be the predominant view.
The new Metroid Prime game absolutely should be 1st person except for Morph Ball sections - that is the Prime way - it worked perfectly fine back on the GameCube and will be just as good on the Switch in 2020 or whatever year it comes out.0 -
It's call Xbox Series X, not "Nextbox". :rolleyes:
Doesn't the Switch handle "more realistic" looking games just fine when created by competent developers? Most folks on here said The Witcher 3 looks pretty good. Personally I hope they don't go too realistic with Prime 4 - just give us a 1080p version of the GC game and I'll be happy.
The reason they tried something different is because they wanted to evolve the franchise - and thank god they did because what we got was brilliant. I'm not sure, maybe you were too young to have played Prime when it first released on the GameCube - it was an incredible change. Exactly like Mario 64 was, exactly like Ocarina of Time was - you had to be there to appreciate how amazing they were because they went in a different direction and were implemented brilliantly.
Would you have been happy if Mario and Zelda never moved on from their 2D versions?
The new Metroid Prime game absolutely should be 1st person except for Morph Ball sections - that is the Prime way - it worked perfectly fine back on the GameCube and will be just as good on the Switch in 2020 or whatever year it comes out.
Nextbox is a better name that Xbox Series X 1 XXX Part Deus.
It's a daft naming system Microsoft have.
I wouldn't say the Switch handles realistic games brilliantly. Well it depends on the scale and scope. Getting the Witcher 3 to run on a handheld is impressive, but it's heavily pared back visually and it shows. I'd be hoping for something more impressive than "a 1080p version of the GC game" after 20 years.
The reason they went 1st person was that they couldn't handle both perspectives, it would have been a big technical challenge for them I guess, that's what I heard at the time, I remember seeing 3rd person screenshots, and reading the Wikipedia page:The game was planned to use a third-person perspective, but after Miyamoto intervened this was changed to first-person perspective and almost everything already developed was scrapped. The change was prompted by camera problems experienced by Rare, which was developing the N64 game Jet Force Gemini.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime
I'm more than old enough to remember Prime, and Super Metroid. And that's the thing. Prime is great and all in its limited ways. But it’s not a true transition from Super Metroid, that is the pinnacle, Samus is not the same in Prime, she doesn't have all the moves, the ability. The addition of a 3rd person view would allow her to use her array of abilities. Just look at the Grappling Beam in Prime compared to Super Metroid for example , it's completely nerfed. And that's just one aspect. Speed Booster is another. In Metroid: Other M it was back, because a 3rd person view makes it natural.
Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time made the leap from 2D to 3D faithfully, Prime didn't.
Prime might be perfect for you as is, but I'm still waiting it to transition from Super Metroid. And to do that, it needs both 1st and 3rd person views. They should be able to do that in this day and age. The game won't be out this year and I doubt it'll be out next year either.0 -
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Nextbox is a better name that Xbox Series X 1 XXX Part Deus. It's a daft naming system Microsoft have.
I wouldn't say the Switch handles realistic games brilliantly. Well it depends on the scale and scope. Getting the Witcher 3 to run on a handheld is impressive, but it's heavily pared back visually and it shows. I'd be hoping for something more impressive than "a 1080p version of the GC game" after 20 years.
The reason they went 1st person was that they couldn't handle both perspectives, it would have been a big technical challenge for them I guess, that's what I heard at the time, I remember seeing 3rd person screenshots, and reading the Wikipedia page:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime
I'm more than old enough to remember Prime, and Super Metroid. And that's the thing. Prime is great and all in its limited ways. But it’s not a true transition from Super Metroid, that is the pinnacle, Samus is not the same in Prime, she doesn't have all the moves, the ability. The addition of a 3rd person view would allow her to use her array of abilities. Just look at the Grappling Beam in Prime compared to Super Metroid for example , it's completely nerfed. And that's just one aspect. Speed Booster is another. In Metroid: Other M it was back, because a 3rd person view makes it natural.
Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time made the leap from 2D to 3D faithfully, Prime didn't.
Prime might be perfect for you as is, but I'm still waiting it to transition from Super Metroid. And to do that, it needs both 1st and 3rd person views. They should be able to do that in this day and age. The game won't be out this year and I doubt it'll be out next year either.
Being that Other M is AFAIK the only game so far to have done 1st and 3rd person views as you describe (excluding the Power Ball bits in the Prime games), and that Other M was a total two-flusher of a game (the only Metroid game I've ever bought and then not bothered to finish), I'm going to say I disagree.
I enjoyed every 2D Metroid game I played, and for me Fusion was the pinnacle of that. But I can accept that there's nothing more that can be done in the 2D space for the franchise, and that moving it into the 3D space requires changing how the game is set up and approached.
I'm not really arsed about being able to directly see a line between Super Metroid and whatever the new game is - I'm more interested in whether the feel of the game is the same, and more importantly whether it's fun to play. I hope that the lessons about craptacular gameplay and arsegravy story in Other M have been learned, but that will remain to be seen.0 -
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This is the mix of perspectives I'd like. It can be done, and done brilliantly. Add in analogue controls, not the awkwardness of the Wii remote only, switching from sideways to pointer controls. The switch from 3rd to 1st person can be really seamless if done right. If Retro Studios have the talent, they can do a better job than Team Ninja.
Metroid games, particularly the 3D ones have never been treated with the care or marketing that Mario and Zelda get. They get developed internally, while Metroid has been farmed out. It's a shame that Gunpei Yokoi died, I know he had left Nintendo around a year prior, but you never know what could have happened since.0 -
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They've sat on completed games for years at a time until a good release window opens up. It's probably a more sensible an approach than other publishers but they can't afford to wait. It's also meant that some completed games never make it to the market, particularly late console ones.
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