BusConnects Dublin - Bus Network Changes Discussion

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851040#Comment_123851040

No you’re not going mad - I posted it a few days ago on this thread from when it was publicly online on the TFI website. Here it is again.

Stillnotworking

As ever, appreciate that.

PlatformNine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123849632#Comment_123849632

Personally, I’d let the BÉ 132 cover City-Blessington

More generally I think the case with some of the towns that are losing a DB service to CC, that they really should have some BÉ replacement. The difference in stopping pattern between a DB and BÉ service I think would make a massive difference, and would be more like what these towns deserve. Though I still think the L services should be kept to supplement the direct services.

Blessignton I think might be the worst offender in that regard considering it is just as far as Naas to CC. But also Skerries, Rush, and Lusk would be better served by BÉ.

transfer90

https://www.irishtimes.com/transport/2025/09/25/challenge-to-busconnects-plan-expected-to-be-resolved-by-removal-of-malahide-road-stop/

trellheim

Bu thre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851415#Comment_123851415

Just looked at the 132 schedule thats outer cover out to Bunclody, badly needed in its own right and theres only three of them on a weekday . What on earth is the justification for pulling a not-too-frequent City-Centre to Blessington bus with connections into Rathmines and the rest of the south city. The LUAS is crowded enough as it is and goes a different way into town , and forcing people onto a three bus change is painful in enough anyway , 65a replacement→A→whatever . It wil just force people to be dropped at the Citywest or Saggart LUAS by car, driving more traffic down an already nuts N81

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851814#Comment_123851814

The 132 is due to be upgraded under the Connecting Ireland programme with a vastly improved schedule. It is also likely to be converted to full double deck operation.

Clearly right now it isn’t an option with only four departures (not three!) in either direction, but it could be in that context.

While I’m not in favour of the removal of the direct link with the city off-peak, or a better connection with services to Templeogue, and points along that CBC, there will still be direct services to and from the city when the vast majority of people are travelling - i.e. morning peak inbound and evening peak outbound, with, I suspect, additional extra works over and above those to cover the schools.

At the same time, I’m not sure that the 65 is as jammed during the day between points west of Tallaght and those east as you seem to be suggesting. That’s not to say that this could be handled better - it obviously could.

thomasj

I was watching a tiktok video earlier from a local green party counsellor Ray Cunningham. In the video it's claimed that apart from some route changes , the new 73 will be just as frequent as the 123.

What is for sure is that someone has got it wrong. Question is , has Dublin bus got the frequency wrong or does the local green party counsellor.

VG31

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851999#Comment_123851999

The only source for the 30 minute frequency was that NBRU document. They didn't even get the frequencies right for DB's existing routes so I'd inclined to believe the councillor.

john boye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851973#Comment_123851973

Last paragraph pretty much nailed it. I don't see much wrong with the plans for it apart from maybe putting on one or two schools extras to/from Terenure/Templeogue.

trellheim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851973#Comment_123851973

No, I did read what you had written

But none if it justifies why they want to remove the 65 and thats what I cant get my head around. The points you make could all be managed by retaining the 65 as is , so why on earth mess with it.

Spanish Eyes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123849212#Comment_123849212

I'm just commenting and not aiming this at you! Thanks for the clarification about route 80. I would have one point to make about the terminus at Kingston (next phase), is there any reason the 80 can't terminate at Stillorgan, Kilmacud, or Sandyford LUAS stops instead? Surely the connectivity would be great if that was done.

But sure what do I know, some genius is deciding these things, and I'm just a weary commuter.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123852636#Comment_123852636

Probably because it’s not really needed, and there is already a terminus bay at Kingston.

There are numerous other links with the LUAS in the area.

The S8 already connects Kingston with Sandyford LUAS and the 74 links it with Balally and Dundrum LUAS stops.

The A2 will link the rest of Ballinteer & Grange Road with Dundrum LUAS, the A4 will link Rathfarnham, Nutgrove & Barton Road with Dundrum LUAS and finally the S6 links Rathfarnham, Nutgrove and Churchtown with Dundrum LUAS.

LXFlyer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123852512#Comment_123852512

It was based on the notion that people could connect with services at Tallaght, like other outer locations.

That being said, I’m pretty sure that most people in Blessington would prefer a limited stop 132 to the city over an all stops 65.

I do think however that there is a gap now linking points from Rathmines out to Tallaght - that needs addressing.

stop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851999#Comment_123851999

Its good to see a politician make an attempt to provide in basic terms an explanation of a change to a route, rather than what we have seen so many times - jumping up with a few days to go making noise over routes being "SLASHED/AXED" etc. with "ZERO CONSULTATION".

PlatformNine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123851814#Comment_123851814

I think you're overlooking the biggest benifits of the 132 and issue with the 65, the journey time. Blessington-CC on the 65 is often timetabled for ~1:30 where as on the 132 it is consistently 1 hour. Part of that is from a lack of bus priority, but it is also just from there being so many stops on the route.

The journey to Tallaght is quicker too, and that would be good for people looking for onward connections to south Dublin who may want a quicker option than the L44. But I do think LXFlyer is right about the Tallaght-Rathmines section, there does need to be something to replace the A3/65 there.

So while some people may loose their direct service to south Dublin, it is an improvement for those going to Tallaght and CC. However that is where a handful of daily service like the P43 and P44 could come in to supplement the services when that extra boost in capacity is needed and give some users a better/direct service. I will admit however that the 132 should have some additional intermediate stops to allow for better connections. It actually stands out quite a bit in that regard as every other outer commuter has a good few more stops within the city, even the express services.