Colleges start installation of gender neutral toilets

djPSB

http://connachttribune.ie/college-starts-installation-gender-neutral-toilets-090/

The country is going fully mad? Lucky to have any toilets back in the day.

Penny Tration

Isn't it basically just a unisex toilet? So one for men, one for women, one for anyone who wants to use it?


I don't understand the difference between a gender neutral toilet, and a unisex toilet tbh.

Alf Veedersane

Penny Tration wrote: »

Isn't it basically just a unisex toilet? So one for men, one for women, one for anyone who wants to use it?


I don't understand the difference between a gender neutral toilet, and a unisex toilet tbh.

Gender neutral would have more than one cubicle whereas unisex would be just the one unit. That's the only difference. Gender neutral is plural of unisex

McDermotX

Very first word of the title kind of gives it away. Colleges.

Not living in the real world, as usual.

SomethingElse

The toilets at the Cliffs of Moher are already gender neutral

McDermotX

McDermotX wrote: »

Not living in the real world, as usual.

You don't share toilets with the opposite sex in the real world?

raze_them_all_

The college im in voted for it. Only me and my house mate voted for against it.

We also pointed out the disabled toilets are "gender neutral" what a ****ing stupid term.

****ing kids are in for a fun surprise when they end up in a job

Annasopra

djPSB wrote: »

http://connachttribune.ie/college-starts-installation-gender-neutral-toilets-090/

The country is going fully mad? Lucky to have any toilets back in the day.

I don't see the big deal at all. What the colleges are doing is they will have a female toilet, a male toilet and one that anyone can goto. This idea that the country is going mad because a few toilets have changed designation is quite bizarre really.

tomwaterford

Going by the article they are just changing the signage on the door


Why deos this matter?

HONKEY TONK

It's just an extra toilet for everyone to use

_Brian

More and more places are just having "toilets" rather than ladies and gents separate.
It makes far more sense and less doubling of facilities.

When at home people share toilets, when you visit someone's house you share toilets, but when you get to work or a shopping centre magically there is some need to have gender specific toilets.

reason vs religion

Christ, some people here are so backward - completely intransigent in their ignorance.

The Backwards Man

It's far from segregated toilets we were reared.

Unearthly

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

The college im in voted for it. Only me and my house mate voted for against it.

We also pointed out the disabled toilets are "gender neutral" what a ****ing stupid term.

****ing kids are in for a fun surprise when they end up in a job

Actually where i work they recently installed a gender neutral toilet

2011abc

reason vs religion wrote: »

Christ, some people here are so backward - completely intransigent in their ignorance.

You have to embrace trans and 'intrans' equally !

Galwayguy35

So both sexes can use them then, I think the ladies will be rushing back to their own loos if they happen to be there when some fella is getting rid of last nights curry.

Annasopra

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So both sexes can use them then, I think the ladies will be rushing back to their own loos if they happen to be there when some fella is getting rid of last nights curry.

Do women not eat curry?

Pac1Man

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Do women not eat curry?

They make the curry.

Galwayguy35

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Do women not eat curry?

No they don't, thought everyone already knew this.

Nomis21

SomethingElse wrote: »

The toilets at the Cliffs of Moher are already gender neutral

Yes, but you have to pay 4 Euro entrance to use them!

Manion

When I was in Trinity not that long ago the toilets in the Hamilton building had glory holes drilled in them. It was openly acknowledged by all but a scandal as far as the university administration was concerned. No one seemed to care about the safety issued raised by having perverts and degenerates coming on campus and lurking in the toilets.

But gender neutral toilets are a talking point for some reason? Are we so corrupted by american culture we feel the need to give a damn about everything they get upset about? Trinity has had unisex toilets in all the modern buildings going back almost two decades. Talk about a non story.

SomethingElse

Nomis21 wrote: »

Yes, but you have to pay 4 Euro entrance to use them!

Worth every cent!

Pawwed Rig

My work place has gender neutral toilets....or is that unisex.
We just call it the toilet.

Sleeper12

Penny Tration wrote:

I don't understand the difference between a gender neutral toilet, and a unisex toilet tbh.

There none imo. A lot of people want to kick up a fuss about nothing. I first encountered unisex toilets in Greece in the mid 80's.

helimachoptor

_Brian wrote: »

More and more places are just having "toilets" rather than ladies and gents separate.
It makes far more sense and less doubling of facilities.

Wait til you need to go and there's a massive Q of ladies.. you'll want your gender separation then :P

RustyNut

Unearthly wrote: »

Actually where i work they recently installed a gender neutral toilet

You work in a college?

mahamageehad

Do people have nothing better to be getting their knickers in a twist about? In Europe unisex toilets are pretty normal. Been to places in France and Germany where the unisex toilets had cubicals along one wall and urinals along the other. I found it odd at first and I could make understand Irish people complaining about that, but my understanding is that this is just an extra toilet anyone can use, they're not changing all existing bathrooms to gender neutral.

MRnotlob606

As a student at one of these colleges I think this was stupid, irrational and counter-intuitive. Student Union's decision nonetheless. They have one of the disabled toilets with a gender neutral sign on it as well. Absolute madness.

BlinkingLights

I would have thought the bigger issue in Ireland is actually a huge % of single gender primary and secondary schools. We are one of the few developed world countries that divides students by gender in a significant % of public schools.

Somehow that's all totally grand and anyone who ever complains just gets shot down with unscientific selective statistics that usually​ ignore other biases (eg that the single gender schools with high achievers are also populated by students from middle class or high education focused families and the normal schools may be UK comprehensives).

Meanwhile Irish kids are still being offered reduced subject choices (particularly science and honours maths) because they're stuck in some traditional girls school that historically valued knitting over physics and chemistry and only recently joined the 20th never mind 21st century.

Then add to that the fact that you're raising kids isolated from the opposite gender and creating all sorts of weird notions of 'us' and 'them'.

To make it worse if a kid did have a gender identity issue they're locked into an environment that is utterly defined by gender, usually with a uniform that may force them to wear a skirt etc etc

But no... We just need to stick up a few signs on university toilets and reclassify the accessible toilets on some campuses as gender neutral, inconveniencing people in wheelchairs by making them for game for everyone else causing them to be permanently busy. This is what they've done in UCC for example.

Rumpy Pumpy

Have unisex toilets in work. Not good for anyone. Men often just want a quick splash and dash and having to wait for a cubicle to take a

Alan_P

Most normal,rational people won't care about this in the slightest.

To the very few,often highly troubled, people it might benefit :- it strikes me as an act of kindness that costs little. And the world needs more kindness.

Manion

BlinkingLights wrote: »

I would have thought the bigger issue in Ireland is actually a huge % of single gender primary and secondary schools. We are one of the few developed world countries that divides students by gender in a significant % of public schools.

Somehow that's all totally grand and anyone who ever complains just gets shot down with unscientific selective statistics that usually​ ignore other biases (eg that the single gender schools with high achievers are also populated by students from middle class or high education focused families and the normal schools may be UK comprehensives).

Meanwhile Irish kids are still being offered reduced subject choices (particularly science and honours maths) because they're stuck in some traditional girls school that historically valued knitting over physics and chemistry and only recently joined the 20th never mind 21st century.

Then add to that the fact that you're raising kids isolated from the opposite gender and creating all sorts of weird notions of 'us' and 'them'.

To make it worse if a kid did have a gender identity issue they're locked into an environment that is utterly defined by gender, usually with a uniform that may force them to wear a skirt etc etc

But no... We just need to stick up a few signs on university toilets and reclassify the accessible toilets on some campuses as gender neutral, inconveniencing people in wheelchairs by making them for game for everyone else causing them to be permanently busy.

Parents choice surely.

red ears

Women are going to be faced with pissed on toilet seats now too because some I'll bred bast**ds won't lift the seat to piss. Men in public toilets have been dealing with that for ages. I'll never understand it. How much of a pig do you have to be to piss on a bowl other people will need to sit on. It's not hard to lift it.

Grayson

Manion wrote: »

Parents choice surely.

I think his point is that quite often there isn't a choice. I grew up in a midlands town and of 4 secondary schools only one was co-ed. And it was one of the worst ones.

I just started working in a new place and they have gender neutral toilets, or as they call them, all gender toilets.

I think the OP is reading the daily mail too much.

BlinkingLights

red ears wrote: »

Women are going to be faced with pissed on toilet seats now too because some I'll bred bast**ds won't lift the seat to piss. Men in public toilets have been dealing with that for ages. I'll never understand it. How much of a pig do you have to be to piss on a bowl other people will need to sit on. It's not hard to lift it.

Probably a vicious cycle...

Someone sprays the seat, then the next person doesn't lift it as they don't want to touch it.

Women can cause a similar mess by hovering to avoid contact with toilets too.

Mickeroo

BlinkingLights wrote: »

Women can cause a similar mess by hovering to avoid contact with toilets too.

Women can hover? :eek:

mahamageehad

Mickeroo wrote: »

Women can hover? :eek:

Yes, it's our main defense against toilet crabs.

Allinall

When you flush do they become gender fluid?

Mickeroo

mahamageehad wrote: »

Yes, it's our main defense against toilet crabs.

I always had my suspicions.

seamus

red ears wrote: »

Women are going to be faced with pissed on toilet seats now too because some I'll bred bast**ds won't lift the seat to piss. Men in public toilets have been dealing with that for ages. I'll never understand it. How much of a pig do you have to be to piss on a bowl other people will need to sit on. It's not hard to lift it.

Women's toilets are usually way messier than men's.

andekwarhola

djPSB wrote: »

Lucky to have any toilets back in the day.

You went to college before the invention of toilets?

neverever1

seamus wrote: »

Women's toilets are usually way messier than men's.

How do you know?

Roger Hassenforder

Mickeroo wrote: »

Women can Hoover? :eek:

FYP.
The best ones do anyway

Guy:Incognito

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I don't see the big deal at all. What the colleges are doing is they will have a female toilet, a male toilet and one that anyone can goto. This idea that the country is going mad because a few toilets have changed designation is quite bizarre really.

Are colleges not always whinging about being underfunded? Maybe they're spending their money wrong.........

Christy42

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are colleges not always whinging about being underfunded? Maybe they're spending their money wrong.........

How much do you think a few loos cost to install? There is a difference in scale which means a few extra loos are a drop in the ocean compared to the scale of the funding they want. It is like giving out about someone for buying a bag of sweets while they were whining about their mortgage.

The lengths people will go to to be offended by this (and then they turn around and complain college students are too easily offended).

wakka12

PersonallyI don't feel strongly about the whole transgender toilet issues. But if you care that much about the gender sign on the toilet door then I think its you thats the bizarre one
How does it affect you one way or another

osarusan

Public toilets should have slow-moving spring-activated seats whose default position is up.

Samaris

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Are colleges not always whinging about being underfunded? Maybe they're spending their money wrong.........

Toilets to accommodate the general population are usually considered to be an important thing to have.

djPSB

wakka12 wrote: »

PersonallyI don't feel strongly about the whole transgender toilet issues. But if you care that much about the gender sign on the toilet door then I think its you thats the bizarre one
How does it affect you one way or another

It's the trans that are complaining that they are uncomfortable with current toileting arrangements. :rolleyes:

Timberrrrrrrr

I worked in construction for years and we always had "gender neutral " toilets on every single site. They were called porta potties

Throw a few of those bad boys around every college campus and let them use those.

djPSB

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I worked in construction for years and we always had "gender neutral " toilets on every single site. They were called porta potties

Throw a few of those bad boys around every college campus and let them use those.

Why can't they use the ones that are there?