Do you think people should be allowed to bring dogs into shops/cafe/bar with them?

Murrisk

erica74 wrote: »

As long as they are well behaved, I don't see the problem (the same rule should be applied to children). Maybe a notice up that says if the dog misbehaves, you'll be asked to leave (the same rule should be applied to children).

Look, children are humans. There is no getting away from that. We share a species with children. We once all were children. Not one of us can say we were always perfectly behaved as children. But we still we were all brought places.

There are problems unique to animals so that comparison to children is disengenuous. Allergies. Animals taking a dislike to each other. These are issues that would headaches for premises and customers alike. I've seen animal allergies in action, they are not pretty. Nobody should have to worry about their animal allergy playing up when they are trying to enjoy a meal. And so many people think that their pooch is perfect but, as I discovered a few weeks back, are often too deep in conversation to notice that their pooch is annoying other patrons.

And lastly, just because something happens on the continent, doesn't mean it's the right way. What is it with people using what is the norm "on the continent" as an argument ender? Ireland is different, all countries have their differences.

Children can be very annoying in establishments, true, but why add another layer of annoyance?

Murrisk

mahamageehad wrote: »

Yeah but well trained dogs shouldn't be reacting to other dogs in a restaurant, that's exactly the point. If the dog can't be there without barking or begging for food, they shouldn't be there and the owner or staff should have no problem asking them to leave. I've never seen dogs barking in restaurants, pubs or cafes on the continent. As I said earlier in the thread, that's generally because expected standard of training is higher here.

I don't know a huge amount about dog-training, but I have more experience of cat-training and socialisation and I know with cats at least, socialisation has little to do with cats sometimes taking a dislike to one another. Honestly, we got in some lovely, friendly, placid cats in that just randomly take a dislike to a new arrival and it would never really resolve. Individual cats have their own temperaments and I guess another cat with its own temperament must just rub them up the wrong way.

corner of hells

Lia_lia wrote: »

I would have no problems with dog being allowed in shops/cafes/bars etc..

My Dad owns a bar in France and his dog pretty much lives in the bar. Customers bring their dogs all the time. No one bats an eyelid.

I don't understand some people's obsession with hygiene. Especially around pet dogs.

Wait, just told on... did you just your dad owns a bar?
Did anyone else read this post ?

Stephen15

ForestFire wrote: »

If well disciplined and kept under control then shops could be okay, but not areas where people eat for me anyway.

Would you have issues with multiple dogs in confined space being aggressive to each other?

As for rubbing and touching food, not nice, but when you think about it, anyone in a shop could have had there hands on pets, dirt or up there arse:o before they got there...maybe best not to think, but I think I'll be washing fruit and veg more often now:)

In Italy its seems to welcome to bring you dogs everywhere including restaurants, bars, shops and public transport.

Also in supermarkets there they provide disposable gloves which you are expected to wear if buying loose fruit and veg. So it's not like they don't care about hygiene on the continent in fact they probably care more than they do for example in France where you have to wear speedos in the pool.