The Orville

corkie

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Gently_Falling_Rain

Another good episode.

odyssey06

Spoiler Warning

Hmm, not sure how such a hybrid offspring would be possible but we'll roll with it...

The pub crawl through history looked fun... and of course, there's always someone (often me) who says we're comfortable here :)

Strongest episode of the season so far imo.

AMKC

That was a really good episode with a lot in it. Will have to watch it again. A lot in it that is relative to the world we live in now like how the popular vote got some shady people into power like that clown Trump in the USA ho thankfully is gone now and about what we deem right or not like abortions and how the krill deal with that.

I was surprised the union could put together such a big fleet there considering they are busy fighting the Kaylon too.

All in all very impressive.

blade1

Excellent episode.

Did anyone else laugh out loud at Bortus when they did the special manoeuvre? 😆

flazio

So, as you can imagine, all the news coming from the US was getting to me and I thought "I know, new episode of The Orville, that will take my mind off the sh*t show for an hour." Well, you can guess how that went. I turned off the episode just as the couple were led in and decided to avail of the free trial week of Paramount+ to catch-up on Discovery instead. Even when I came back to the episode I had to fast forward past the scene once the hologram child turned up. This is not The Orville I signed up for.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119255453#Comment_119255453

Ummm it is.

They did a forced gender conversion therapy, last season

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119255453#Comment_119255453

Hav you seen the latest episode of Strange New Worlds? That is much more light hearted.

flazio

There's only 3 up on P+ so far. Just watched the first one tonight and quite liked it. Oddly the disguised scenes actually reminded me of older Orville episodes.

corkie

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/A_Tale_of_Two_Topas

^^ Above link will have episode breakdown soon <<< Spoilers

Given the episode topic, this review by Jessie Gender is more appropriated then my thoughts on it.

A tie-back to

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/About_a_Girl

flazio

Best episode of the season so far. Such a complex and difficult problem, solved in such an "Orville" way.

The Continental Op

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119161974#Comment_119161974

Going back a bit but I remember this comment and I think at this stage (episode se3e05) it knows exactly.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119255763#Comment_119255763

Hmmm random prescient post, by myself

AMKC

I liked that. That was the best episode of the Orville by far this season and certainly one of my favourite episodes of the whole show. Delighted for Topa in the end and as for Klydon good riddance. If a person is not willing to change their point of view from on outdated view to be at least more tolerant then you are better not knowing them at all.

I used to not like Bortas at the beginning of this show but to me he is the character that has grown most in this show now and is one of my favourites.

I was delighted when Issac stepped in and said he would do it and fix Topa. If only it was that simple in real life but maybe in 3 to 5 hundred years it will be.

flazio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119273846#Comment_119273846

And this episode is chalk and cheese to everything else we've seen so far this season. It's as if the ship found its heart again. The mission was run of the mill but gave us a few small gags. Isaac clearing the traps, Gordon getting an allergic reaction by "being an idiot".

Kelly letting Topa shadow her in First officer duties, I could easily see Riker do this with Alexander or Chatokay do this with Naomi Wildman if they ever showed an interest, heck even Saru would let a young potential cadet look around if there was a child on board Discovery and you can definitely see that Ransom has Boimlers back.

Contrast how Issacs attempted suicide was dealt with with how Topas suicidal inquiries were handled. Isaac even made me chuckle when while confiding his concerns, he was ready to make a ship wide announcement that nothing was going on.

One thing about Star Trek and the sci-fi of its caliber is it's meant to deliver a hopeful message about the future. This is the first time The Orville has done that this season. The past 4 episodes felt like they were done under Charlie Brookers supervision instead of Seth MacFarland. Last week a previous episode of hope was smashed into pieces, this week another episode was fixed. And yes the scene of new Topa giving the "Engage" order was unnecessary, but so was Alara's goodbye scene last season and I loved them both.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119276349#Comment_119276349

But everything you say here is undermined by the fact that they DID do a forced gender reassignment on the infant Topa. That was as negative as Orville has ever gotten

And as for hopeful message of the future?

You must have hated some episodes of DS9

The Continental Op

I feel that season three of the Orville has got back to what I understand to be Gene Roddenberry's vision of Star Trek, but what would I know?

corny

I think I'll stop watching. These shows are disappearing so far up their own arses it's painful to watch. I want to be entertained, not lectured on ideological viewpoints.

I can't believe people are willing to swallow this crap and call it good television.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119278782#Comment_119278782

Well if you do not like it then fine stop watching it. I thought it was an excellent episode dealing with moral issues, delimas and real world issues from our time like Star Trek used to. In fact I would go as far as to say it was the best episode of any season of The Orville and certainly my favourite episode of all 3 seasons of it so far.

blade1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119280306#Comment_119280306

They may as well wait til the end of the season now! 🤪

corny

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119280306#Comment_119280306

Each to their own. I miss the jokes, frivolity and upbeat tone of the first series. McFarlane touched on the issues you're describing but did so in his own inimitable way. The porn addiction episode, majority rule episode, Kelly as a god episode... they all had themes but never went over the top. He's obviously sold his soul to Hulu and political type execs for series 3 because no one can tell me this is McFarlane being true to himself. Have you seen Ted, A million ways to die in the west!

Hollywood doesn't do content without a message anymore so I shouldn't be surprised. 'The Boys' (another show I've recently given up on) has gone the same way. Am I really the only one who laments the relentless politicization of 'entertainment'?

The Continental Op

Each to their own. I miss the jokes, frivolity and upbeat tone of the first series.

I seem to remember reading that McFarlane said he just didn't have it in him to write the required number of "funny" episodes so this is why I think the show has gone the way it has.

corkie

Had forgotten about this episode, which also featured 'Topa', 'Heveena' and Moclans: -

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Sanctuary

corkie

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Twice_in_a_Lifetime

Enjoyable episode with a good twist in it.

AMKC

Another excellent episode and it was funny in a good way in parts too. I really enjoyed that. It was more like old Orville.

I liked the moral dilemma in it too.

I will admit when I seen the title at first I thought it was going to be an episode similar to one in TNG where they find a copy of Will Riker on a planet from a transporter accident that happened many years before.

I though they was going to be two of one of the crew.

The only thing was I thought the last few minutes with the getting Gordan from Earth were rushed. Ye maybe it would have been nothing but they could have done a good scence there maybe they came down and he was like "about time I am not sure I could kill anymore animals I might just decide to starve" or something like that. I think it was an opportunity missed.

I think that the moral dilemma was forced.

It was always a better option to just get the required material and jump back the 10 years. Why would you rescue a potentially traumatised 10 year older person, when you could always have gone straight to the "original"?

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119308338#Comment_119308338

Yes maybe it was but they or to be precise Ed did not even think of that untill he was going to force Gordan to leave his new family

It's a bit like you set out in your car to go a certain distance but then realise you have miscalculated and that you will not make it so you decide to go somewhere nearer but similar to do what you set out to do and realise it's not as good. So then you have a decision to make stay there or get more fuel be it the dinosaur type liquid fuel or to charge your car somewhere and maybe your funds are low. Now you have a big decision to make. Stay here then go home or get more fuel and go further.

I would not be surprised if after the Orville second jump further back in time that they had to get more Durenum.

corkie

I didn't see it while watching the episode but this isn't the first time we met.

Laura Huggins a.k.a Leighton Meester

Recent episode is a sequel to

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Lasting_Impressions

https://screenrant.com/orville-season-3-star-trek-tng-geordi-improve/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyBf9dJQwRM

odyssey06

I didn't recognise Leighton Meester at first, she has changed so much from her Gossip Girl persona.

Not the first time she's sung in a role, she was in Country Strong also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcapsSWIEa0

AMKC

Another very good Orville episode. Yes there was a little simularitie to a TNG episode from season 1 or was it 2 of TNG. That is where it ends do with the Hireachy part. It's goes off on its own path then and that's not the only story happening there is three sub stories as well all developing a character or a race in some way and there is some good humour in it too. So yes an enjoyable episode of the Orville.

corkie

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/From_Unknown_Graves

Turning 'Bicentennial Man' into a horror?