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Could someone advise me on my diet please?

  • 14-05-2017 6:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    Hi guys,

    This is what I normally eat:

    Breakfast: porridge with fresh fruit
    Snack: fruit salad of oranges, kiwi, peaches...
    Lunch: usually two small sandwiches (gluten free) with chicken/turkey.
    I'm getting into making omelettes which fill me up for ages!
    Dinner: i'm beginning to improve on this one... used to be a lot of take-aways of thai food but now i'm trying to make stir-fries at home- lots and lots of veg and rice. I use coconut oil and put in sauces (sweet and sour.. and another one that's kinda similar from packet/jar)...

    Snacks: fruit, toast with jam (love it before bed..otherwise i wake up hungry), soya yoghurt..

    Other stuff: popcorn, gluten free desserts, dark chocolate

    Drinks: water, peppermint tea, innocent fruit juices..



    Would really appreciate some advice as to what I should change... Thanks in advance...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    A bit of context as to why you think it needs to be fixed would help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    O.K... i want to lose weight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Height and weight?

    Are you coeliac?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭Zenify


    looks like a great diet to me, but I assume you know that? if you were to go overboard you could say don't eat snacks late but that's a little ott.

    If you aren't losing weight I don't think the diet is the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    5'5

    think i'm about 11-12 stone

    not coeliac

    I have i.b.s... fatty foods don't agree with me.. gluten is not great either.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zahra Dry Shortcake


    You should be careful on the sauces then, s&s can be iffy if it has gluten/soy
    Seems fine though if you're waking up hungry I'd have a boiled egg/egg whites or something proteiny before bed
    I'd say it's a question of the desserts and snacks and recording them all precisely
    Even a little tub of gluten free chocolate pudding is like 500 calories :(
    Even the innocent fruit juices are heavy enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    To be honest, it's probably only the snacks and 'other stuff' that you need to address.

    Watch the sauces as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    Ya, I probably snack on stuff that I shouldn't snack on a bit too much.

    I could also be a bit more consistent with exercise.

    Do you think I should eat more protein? I find it difficult to eat lots of it. I just get wind... :-S


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Zahra Dry Shortcake


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    Ya, I probably snack on stuff that I shouldn't snack on a bit too much.

    I could also be a bit more consistent with exercise.

    Do you think I should eat more protein? I find it difficult to eat lots of it. I just get wind... :-S

    Yeah, it helps keep you full. My worst snacking time is in the morning so I upped the protein in the morning. For example


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    If you're not actually coeliac, it can be bad to eliminate gluten. Worth getting the proper tests to be sure.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    This is what I normally eat:

    Breakfast: porridge with fresh fruit
    Snack: fruit salad of oranges, kiwi, peaches...
    Lunch: usually two small sandwiches (gluten free) with chicken/turkey.
    I'm getting into making omelettes which fill me up for ages!
    Dinner: i'm beginning to improve on this one... used to be a lot of take-aways of thai food but now i'm trying to make stir-fries at home- lots and lots of veg and rice. I use coconut oil and put in sauces (sweet and sour.. and another one that's kinda similar from packet/jar)...

    Snacks: fruit, toast with jam (love it before bed..otherwise i wake up hungry), soya yoghurt..

    Other stuff: popcorn, gluten free desserts, dark chocolate

    Drinks: water, peppermint tea, innocent fruit juices..



    Would really appreciate some advice as to what I should change... Thanks in advance...

    In general you're very much on the right track.

    But a few points ...

    If you're not celiac don't buy into gluten-free.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-heart-gluten-idUSKBN17Z2LL

    Your breakfast is carb heavy with the porridge.
    Have you tried making a homemade granola and having berries with it?
    Very satiating.

    Try cutting the bread from your lunch and focus more on salads and vegetables. Specifically non-starchy vegetables. Vegetables that you can eat raw (not that you necessarily would eat them raw, just ones that you can eat raw)

    For dinner focus on more vegetables and less rice.

    What fruit are you eating? Try to have low fructose fruits.

    Toast and jam is lethal. Especially before bed.
    High sugar content and then you go to bed where you are least active for the whole of the day. It'll just convert to fat.

    Fruit juices are not great either. Full of sugar.
    Fruit is good as it has fiber. Juices and smoothies remove that fiber so you're essentially consuming sugar. If you're not active then that's a bad combination.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    mathie wrote: »

    Fruit is good as it has fiber. Juices and smoothies remove that fiber so you're essentially consuming sugar. If you're not active then that's a bad combination.

    Smoothies don't remove fibre, it doesn't disappear by the fruit being blended.
    A kiwi innocent smoothie 250g has 3.8g of fibre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Smoothies don't remove fibre, it doesn't disappear by the fruit being blended.
    A kiwi innocent smoothie 250g has 3.8g of fibre.

    100g of kiwi has 3g of fibre.
    250g of kiwi has 7.5g of fibre.

    You're losing half the fibre.

    http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/you-cant-ignore-the-sugar-content-this-is-how-your-body-digests-juices-smoothies-and-fruit-35622955.html
    Research shows that adults vastly underestimate the sugar content of fruit juices and smoothies. Some go on a health kick and swap fizzy drinks for fruit juices. Although juices may be perceived to be healthier, they often have a similar sugar content as fizzy drinks and don't have the same nutritional benefit of the whole fruit.

    A study looked at the sugar content per standardised 200ml portion of all fruit juices, juice drinks and smoothies sold by seven major supermarkets in the UK. The average sugar content of fruit juices was 21.4g per 200ml (more than 5 tsp of sugar) and 26g per 200ml for smoothies (6.5 tsp of sugar). To put it in perspective, cola has 21.2g of sugar per 200ml (over 5 tsp of sugar).

    Would you put more than 5 tsp of sugar in your cup of tea? As the aim is to have less than 6 tsp of sugar per day, it's easy for a juice to send you over your limit.

    So perhaps, all things considered, it may be better to eat your fruit whole throughout the day rather than drink it! By making juice, or a even a smoothie of it, you risk sending your blood sugar levels askew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    This is what I normally eat:

    Breakfast: porridge with fresh fruit
    Snack: fruit salad of oranges, kiwi, peaches...
    Lunch: usually two small sandwiches (gluten free) with chicken/turkey.
    I'm getting into making omelettes which fill me up for ages!
    Dinner: i'm beginning to improve on this one... used to be a lot of take-aways of thai food but now i'm trying to make stir-fries at home- lots and lots of veg and rice. I use coconut oil and put in sauces (sweet and sour.. and another one that's kinda similar from packet/jar)...

    Snacks: fruit, toast with jam (love it before bed..otherwise i wake up hungry), soya yoghurt..

    Other stuff: popcorn, gluten free desserts, dark chocolate

    Drinks: water, peppermint tea, innocent fruit juices..



    Would really appreciate some advice as to what I should change... Thanks in advance...

    I took out the evening dinner completely from monday through friday, I eat a good breakfast and a small lunch ( salads to get my veggie intake ) , Fruit juice ( fresh orange juice ) is limited to a treat on Sunday morning . Dinner is now a weekend social treat and occasional night out ( once a month ) weekend the lunch is combined into a breakfast i.e. brunch , with an evening dinner ( almost always home cooked )

    removing gluten unless you have a specific reason is not a good idea

    Note that your diet is extremely lacking in vegetables in a pure form and be aware of the sugar content of many " cook in sauces ".

    personally I now find I sleep much much better, as a result of removing a big evening dinner , if I find Im hungry I have a piece of fruit , or greek yoghurt etc

    I always found the pressure on time in workdays, meant that evening dinners were often not the " best " now at weekends I have the time make really interesting dishes and because its 2 of 7 , I can treat myself

    over the years I found most dietary advice, including professional dietary advice to be near useless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Smoothies don't remove fibre, it doesn't disappear by the fruit being blended.
    A kiwi innocent smoothie 250g has 3.8g of fibre.

    The main issue with fruit juices and smoothies is that the sugar is released very fast and this causes all the issues associated with " sugar highs ". The issue isnt fibre


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    BoatMad wrote: »
    The main issue with fruit juices and smoothies is that the sugar is released very fast and this causes all the issues associated with " sugar highs ". The issue isnt fibre

    I understand that, I was responding to the poster suggesting smoothies have no fibre.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    mathie wrote: »
    100g of kiwi has 3g of fibre.
    250g of kiwi has 7.5g of fibre.

    You're losing half the fibre

    A kiwi smoothie isn't 250g of kiwi fruits it has other ingredients it's just the name they used.
    Your point was smoothies take out all the fibre I said they don't.
    Misinformation doesn't help people, there's nothing wrong with a smoothie now and then as long as people don't rely on them totally for their fruit and veg intake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    I understand that, I was responding to the poster suggesting smoothies have no fibre.
    A kiwi smoothie isn't 250g of kiwi fruits it has other ingredients it's just the name they used.
    Your point was smoothies take out all the fibre I said they don't.
    Misinformation doesn't help people, there's nothing wrong with a smoothie now and then as long as people don't rely on them totally for their fruit and veg intake.

    Without getting pedantic I said they remove fibre. I didn't say they remove all the fibre. ;)

    I'd agree they need to be seen as a treat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    mathie wrote: »
    Without getting pedantic I said they remove fibre. I didn't say they remove all the fibre. ;)

    I'd agree they need to be seen as a treat.
    Smoothies don't remove fibre, it doesn't disappear by the fruit being blended.
    A kiwi innocent smoothie 250g has 3.8g of fibre.

    Just out of curiosity I pulled up the recipe for the kiwi wonder innocent smoothie (it's available on their website) and put it into mfp.
    The nutrients according to mfp is 4 grams of fibre so very little is lost....and a nice sugar hit of 25/23 grams of sugar!!

    A nice treat for the odd day but not a health drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Just out of curiosity I pulled up the recipe for the kiwi wonder innocent smoothie (it's available on their website) and put it into mfp.
    The nutrients according to mfp is 4 grams of fibre so very little is lost....and a nice sugar hit of 25/23 grams of sugar!!

    A nice treat for the odd day but not a health drink.

    That's an eye opener! :eek:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/07/smoothies-fruit-juices-new-health-risk
    However, Popkin says the five a day advice needs to change. Drink vegetable juice, he says, but not fruit juice. "Think of eating one orange or two and getting filled," he said. "Now think of drinking a smoothie with six oranges and two hours later it does not affect how much you eat. The entire literature shows that we feel full from drinking beverages like smoothies but it does not affect our overall food intake, whereas eating an orange does. So pulped-up smoothies do nothing good for us but do give us the same amount of sugar as four to six oranges or a large coke. It is deceiving."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 887 ✭✭✭Jobs OXO


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    Hi guys,

    This is what I normally eat:

    Breakfast: porridge with fresh fruit
    Snack: fruit salad of oranges, kiwi, peaches...
    Lunch: usually two small sandwiches (gluten free) with chicken/turkey.
    I'm getting into making omelettes which fill me up for ages!
    Dinner: i'm beginning to improve on this one... used to be a lot of take-aways of thai food but now i'm trying to make stir-fries at home- lots and lots of veg and rice. I use coconut oil and put in sauces (sweet and sour.. and another one that's kinda similar from packet/jar)...

    Snacks: fruit, toast with jam (love it before bed..otherwise i wake up hungry), soya yoghurt..

    Other stuff: popcorn, gluten free desserts, dark chocolate

    Drinks: water, peppermint tea, innocent fruit juices..



    Would really appreciate some advice as to what I should change... Thanks in advance...

    Too much sugar not enough good fats. Is there peanut butter in there ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mathie wrote: »
    Your breakfast is carb heavy with the porridge.
    Have you tried making a homemade granola and having berries with it?

    You must tell me where you get this low-carb granola. I'm looking for an alternative to carb-heavy porridge because carbs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    OK interesting.

    Thank you for all your replies so far.

    I quite like having porridge for breakfast. I have tried granola before and liked it. Is there really much of a difference health wise between the two? I would have thought granola would contain more sugar? Also, grapes/ raisins that are sometimes in those packs aren't great on my stomach (I.B.S.) Or maybe as you suggest I should try home-made granola...


    I find I'm REALLY REALLY fatigued all the time. Work is just UP and down with zero consistency. Evening time or at the weekends is when I snack on gluten free treats/dark choc.

    I tried re-introducing gluten into diet recently and my stomach was o.k. for the first while...but then it went back to not being so o.k....:-(

    Fatty foods are not good for me. I have been advised to stay well away from them, even the healthy fats.

    Prob could do with less smoothies and toast and jam snacks ... :-(

    The struggle is real...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    You're probably fatigued from the amount of sugar in your diet, all that gluten free bread has added sugar plus jam and fruit and smoothies. You're constantly up and down on sugar highs.

    If you're going to be gluten free then stop eating high sugar substitutes. Keep the bread for treats.

    How about snacks of apple with a high quality peanut butter as a snack? Protein will fill you up.
    Hummus and veg is another snack or a few nuts for protein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭Cake Man


    mathie wrote: »
    Toast and jam is lethal. Especially before bed.
    High sugar content and then you go to bed where you are least active for the whole of the day. It'll just convert to fat.
    How? Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    That's an over simplification of a process that doesn't happen to any great degree in humans and doesn't take into account whether or not the person is in a calorie surplus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    You must tell me where you get this low-carb granola. I'm looking for an alternative to carb-heavy porridge because carbs.

    The clue was in my post "homemade granola".

    Shop bought granola is full of sugar.
    Lets take a look at Flahavan's Toasted Nut Granola

    On the face of it healthy right?

    https://shop.supervalu.ie/shopping/breakfast-cereals-healthier-flahavan-s-toasted-nut-granola-400-grams-/p-1499266000

    Per 100grams - 505kcal

    Carbohydrate 52g
    (of which sugars) 19g


    Or you can make your own by simply roasting nuts, adding dessicated coconut, seeds and berries (which are a lower fructose fruit)

    The carbs and sugars will be a lot lower in your own made one.

    https://www.lowcarbmaven.com/keto-low-carb-granola/

    Per 502kcal
    Carbohydrate 30g


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    Cake Man wrote: »
    How? Why?

    A good explanation here ...

    https://healthcare.utah.edu/the-scope/shows.php?shows=0_7frg4jjd
    Interviewer: So what exactly is happening? I eat a whole bunch of sugar, it goes into my body, goes into my stomach, gets ingested by my system and then what?

    Dr. Juan Gallegos: Then it goes into your blood stream and then the blood stream, when your pancreas senses that there's very high blood sugar levels, then it will secrete something called insulin, and that insulin will make that sugar, that glucose go back into certain cells, especially liver cells, muscle cells and other cells so that they can use that as energy. But that excess energy that you have, if it's not used then it has to be stored somehow.

    Interviewer: Yeah.

    Dr. Juan Gallegos: The way it's stored is basically in the fat cells or adipocytes, but also sometimes it's stored in other places where it shouldn't be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mathie wrote: »
    The clue was in my post "homemade granola".

    Shop bought granola is full of sugar.
    Lets take a look at Flahavan's Toasted Nut Granola

    On the face of it healthy right?

    https://shop.supervalu.ie/shopping/breakfast-cereals-healthier-flahavan-s-toasted-nut-granola-400-grams-/p-1499266000

    Per 100grams - 505kcal

    Carbohydrate 52g
    (of which sugars) 19g


    Or you can make your own by simply roasting nuts, adding dessicated coconut, seeds and berries (which are a lower fructose fruit)

    The carbs and sugars will be a lot lower in your own made one.

    https://www.lowcarbmaven.com/keto-low-carb-granola/

    Per 502kcal
    Carbohydrate 30g

    The homemade is same carbs as a 50g serving of fine oats, for example. And a lot higher calorie content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    The homemade is same carbs as a 50g serving of fine oats, for example. And a lot higher calorie content.

    Its also about satiety.
    Which will leave you more satiated?
    300 calories of homemade granola or 300 calories of oats?

    In my experience I feel fuller with foods that have more fats / less carbs.
    Your experience may be different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    mathie wrote: »
    Its also about satiety.
    Which will leave you more satiated?
    300 calories of homemade granola or 300 calories of oats?

    In my experience I feel fuller with foods that have more fats / less carbs.
    Your experience may be different.

    They are both high in carbs! As someone with insulin resistance, my preferred breakfast would be 300 calories of eggs, veg and cottage cheese. I never start the day with a grain-based breakfast as it doesn't keep me satisfied at all at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    I'm surprised there's so much arguing over porridge vs granola on here when actually I think the porridge is one of the best choices the OP is making compared to everything else she's eating!

    She wants to lose weight. So calorie control should be the main focus.

    OP my suggestion would be to keep with the porridge if you enjoy it and it fills you.
    If you're currently making it with milk, swap it for half milk and half water.

    I'd cut out the sandwiches at lunch and try other things as it's a lot of bread you're eating there. A big salad with lots of protein (prawns, chicken etc) and a small slice of bread will be filling - or have some brown rice with it instead of the bread.

    Omelettes are great as you've already mentioned - you could also make extra portions of stir fry in the evening and have that for lunch too.

    If you're hungry in the evenings after eating your dinner, then you're not eating enough. Having jam and toast before bed is basically adding in a 4th meal to your day.

    You're obviously not eating a stir fry every day, what other dinners are you making?
    Whatever you're having, try adding some extra vegetables on the side to bulk it out - broccoli is great, I add it to everything.

    Start keeping track of what you eat by using myfitnesspal.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    I don't really like cold salads... or eating cold veg. To me it just feels really miserable and I don't enjoy eating it.

    Ya, I actually eat a lot of bread come to think of it. I could nearly eat 8 slices in one day!

    I have water with my porridge as milk doesn't agree with me.

    I find stir fries are the healthiest and easiest thing to make. I'm currently eating a lot of them at the moment. Other than that, i'd have pasta with some frozen veg. Or I'd eat out- usual thai green curries or stir fries again. I should prob try something diff...

    Any suggestions of dinners i could make that are quick and simple to make- either vegetarian or chicken dishes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    I don't really like cold salads... or eating cold veg. To me it just feels really miserable and I don't enjoy eating it.

    Ya, I actually eat a lot of bread come to think of it. I could nearly eat 8 slices in one day!

    I have water with my porridge as milk doesn't agree with me.

    I find stir fries are the healthiest and easiest thing to make. I'm currently eating a lot of them at the moment. Other than that, i'd have pasta with some frozen veg. Or I'd eat out- usual thai green curries or stir fries again. I should prob try something diff...

    Any suggestions of dinners i could make that are quick and simple to make- either vegetarian or chicken dishes?

    There's loads!

    Vegetarian fajitas - if you don't want the wraps, have the fajita mix on a plate with brown rice, it's yum. A favourite dinner of mine.
    Tuna pasta bake
    Fish with potatoes and vegetables
    Pasta with garlic, chilli, passata and any veg you want in there
    Lasagne with lots of vegetables added in
    Curry - make with prawns, chicken or veg
    Fish pie
    Jacket potato with chilli, beans, tuna, lots of choices for a topping

    These are just off the top of my head, I make these meals regularly.
    And notice I'm not listing boring, healthy stuff - if you're calorie counting you can eat anything you want really just once the portion size is correct.

    And obviously, exercise is going to help but that's not what you asked about.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    mathie wrote: »
    Its also about satiety.
    Which will leave you more satiated?
    300 calories of homemade granola or 300 calories of oats?

    In my experience I feel fuller with foods that have more fats / less carbs.
    Your experience may be different.

    You didn't mention 'in your experience' though. You just said porridge was carb heavy. It's not. It has carbs. So does granola. Fewer carbs in that particular recipe. A lot of other homemade granola isn't low carb.

    Either way, porridge isn't an issue in the OP's diet and as a healthy breakfast they don't need to change it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    Maybe mathie means that with the granola he makes he adds in more nuts, berries etc?

    BetsieEllen- love the meal suggestion! Thank you! Seriously need to try making something different!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭mathie


    You didn't mention 'in your experience' though. You just said porridge was carb heavy. It's not. It has carbs. So does granola.
    Really?

    Oats
    Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
    Energy
    1,628 kJ (389 kcal)
    Carbohydrates
    66.3 g
    Fewer carbs in that particular recipe. A lot of other homemade granola isn't low carb.

    Yes and exactly why I stated ... "Shop bought granola is full of sugar." and linked to a homemade receipe that had less.
    Either way, porridge isn't an issue in the OP's diet and as a healthy breakfast they don't need to change it.

    It's a piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions she could eat nearly eat slices in a day. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions she has pasta with frozen veg. What ratio? 70% pasta, 30% veg? Or it'd be better to have 70% veg, 30% pasta. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions "Or I'd eat out- usual thai green curries or stir fries again".
    Generally restaurants will prioritize rice over veg. Again better to have 70% of your plate in veg and protein, a small amount of healthy fats and some pasta/rice. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions " fruit, toast with jam" just before bed. Incredibly bad idea. Much better to have a filling meal that satiates you and not eat after 7/8pm. Another piece of the puzzle.
    foxylaydee wrote: »
    Maybe mathie means that with the granola he makes he adds in more nuts, berries etc?

    Exactly.
    The difference is that the homemade granola has no oats and added sugar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    A kilogram of oats has 660g of carbs. That's more carbs than an iguana eats in a year!!!!

    The OP probably isn't having 100g of oats for breakfast. So their breakfast isn't carb heavy.

    Porridge isn't part of this puzzle. It's a solid breakfast. It's healthy. The unknowns that form part of this puzzle are the dinner and snacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mathie wrote: »
    Without getting pedantic I said they remove fibre. I didn't say they remove all the fibre. ;)

    I'd agree they need to be seen as a treat.
    You are confusing smoothies and juices. The article you provided regarding smoothies was about sugar.

    But blending a fruit doesn't remove any of the fibre. Where do you think it goes? If you blend up 4 apples, you can eat them very fast, and it's probably not a satisfying way to eat. But you'll get the fibre of 4 apples.
    mathie wrote: »
    That says excess energy not excess carbs.
    You were banging on about this in a previous thread too. Carbs very very rarely get converted to fat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    I don't really like cold salads... or eating cold veg. To me it just feels really miserable and I don't enjoy eating it.

    Ya, I actually eat a lot of bread come to think of it. I could nearly eat 8 slices in one day!

    I have water with my porridge as milk doesn't agree with me.

    I find stir fries are the healthiest and easiest thing to make. I'm currently eating a lot of them at the moment. Other than that, i'd have pasta with some frozen veg. Or I'd eat out- usual thai green curries or stir fries again. I should prob try something diff...

    Any suggestions of dinners i could make that are quick and simple to make- either vegetarian or chicken dishes?

    chicken baked in pesto , chicken in mayo,gherkins & dill
    do you like fish, cod is quick, as are scallops , ( in a little cream and sherry sauce)

    with salads, try adding warm chickened ( , blackened , or with spicy covering ) , or warm bacon , to help disguise the cold veg.







    Note that restaurant curries are often very high in sugar and high in carbs

    PS: kill the bread its a killer for weight gain and 8 slices a day is a huge amount , limit it to 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Generally restaurants will prioritize rice over veg. Again better to have 70% of your plate in veg and protein, a small amount of healthy fats and some pasta/rice. Another piece of the puzzle.

    by and large " fat" does not make you fat. we need to abandon the idea that the fats in our diet are bad for us or lead to weight gain . ( or carbs for that matter )


    The issue is the energy from our foods , and this is why sugar is so important to reduce


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    "The OP mentions she could eat nearly eat slices in a day. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions she has pasta with frozen veg. What ratio? 70% pasta, 30% veg? Or it'd be better to have 70% veg, 30% pasta. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions "Or I'd eat out- usual thai green curries or stir fries again".
    Generally restaurants will prioritize rice over veg. Again better to have 70% of your plate in veg and protein, a small amount of healthy fats and some pasta/rice. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions " fruit, toast with jam" just before bed. Incredibly bad idea. Much better to have a filling meal that satiates you and not eat after 7/8pm. Another piece of the puzzle."


    The 8 slices of bread I eat- are of the gluten free variety. They are so small that I feel like I need to eat more to have enough. Although, I guess I should cut down on it.
    Pasta with frozen veg- it's about 80% pasta and 20% veg. :-S I've mostly cut it out now.
    Ya, there is very little veg in the curries that I eat in comparison to the amount of veg I would use at home in a stir-fry.

    So... I suppose it's more portion control. Less carbs more veg/protein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    The 8 slices of bread I eat- are of the gluten free variety. They are so small that I feel like I need to eat more to have enough. Although, I guess I should cut down on it.
    Pasta with frozen veg- it's about 80% pasta and 20% veg. :-S I've mostly cut it out now.
    Ya, there is very little veg in the curries that I eat in comparison to the amount of veg I would use at home in a stir-fry.

    So... I suppose it's more portion control. Less carbs more veg/protein.

    Gluten free bread doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean fewer calories. So yes, you should probably cut down on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    "The OP mentions she could eat nearly eat slices in a day. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions she has pasta with frozen veg. What ratio? 70% pasta, 30% veg? Or it'd be better to have 70% veg, 30% pasta. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions "Or I'd eat out- usual thai green curries or stir fries again".
    Generally restaurants will prioritize rice over veg. Again better to have 70% of your plate in veg and protein, a small amount of healthy fats and some pasta/rice. Another piece of the puzzle.
    The OP mentions " fruit, toast with jam" just before bed. Incredibly bad idea. Much better to have a filling meal that satiates you and not eat after 7/8pm. Another piece of the puzzle."


    The 8 slices of bread I eat- are of the gluten free variety. They are so small that I feel like I need to eat more to have enough. Although, I guess I should cut down on it.
    Pasta with frozen veg- it's about 80% pasta and 20% veg. :-S I've mostly cut it out now.
    Ya, there is very little veg in the curries that I eat in comparison to the amount of veg I would use at home in a stir-fry.

    So... I suppose it's more portion control. Less carbs more veg/protein.

    Yeah exactly and don't forget protein! Are you using mfp? Try keeping a diary for a week and see what you eat then you could tweak it a bit from there.
    Try experimenting with different sauces for your veg or new ways of cooking them too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    The 8 slices of bread I eat- are of the gluten free variety. They are so small that I feel like I need to eat more to have enough. Although, I guess I should cut down on it.
    Pasta with frozen veg- it's about 80% pasta and 20% veg. :-S I've mostly cut it out now.
    Ya, there is very little veg in the curries that I eat in comparison to the amount of veg I would use at home in a stir-fry.

    So... I suppose it's more portion control. Less carbs more veg/protein.

    are you coeliac ?, if not why are you avoiding gluten, its not good to do that without a specific reason , and for example are you eating gluten free pasta ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    No but gluten doesn't agree with me. Although, I've been wondering recently if it's more to do with the amount of gluten that I used to eat as well as a pretty bad diet rather than the gluten itself. I tried normal bread recently and it was fine as an experiment.... but 8 slices a day after a few days wasn't good

    Yes, I used to eat gluten free pasta too. trying to eat more veg now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    No but gluten doesn't agree with me. Although, I've been wondering recently if it's more to do with the amount of gluten that I used to eat as well as a pretty bad diet rather than the gluten itself. I tried normal bread recently and it was fine as an experiment.... but 8 slices a day after a few days wasn't good

    Yes, I used to eat gluten free pasta too. trying to eat more veg now.

    why I mean is unless you have removed gluten from the pasta, why bother with gluten free bread,

    Eat less bread, but buy nice multigrain tasty ordinary bread, Limit yourself to two slices

    pasta has a lot of carbs, so watch the overall energy intake ( portion)


    You should also ensure you have no under functioning thyroid etc , otherwise you could be wasting your time, But it sounds more like you had a poor diet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭foxylaydee


    Ohhh... ya... there was a question mark over my thyroid too. I was supposed to go back for tests again but I never went back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    foxylaydee wrote: »
    Ohhh... ya... there was a question mark over my thyroid too. I was supposed to go back for tests again but I never went back.

    What do you mean by a question mark?


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