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Punishment as a child

  • 07-05-2017 2:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭


    How were you punished when you done something wrong as kids? I used get the odd slap off the father/mother for various offences.

    I've three kids myself and no treats/grounded seems to work for them


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    What would you be threatening/grounding them over?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭gifted


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    What would you be threatening/grounding them over?

    Who said threatening? I said no treats as in sweets


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    gifted wrote: »
    Who said threatening? I said no treats as in sweets

    What would you be grounding them for then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭gifted


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    What would you be grounding them for then?

    Why do you want to know for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    We were always told we'd be sent to the sunshine house where all the bold children went


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Chased with a wooden spoon, or a wet dish cloth. The thoughts of the punishment were worse than the actual contact.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Mostly slaps, cane etc.
    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    What would you be grounding them for then?

    What do you want? A comprehensive list of the child's misdemeanours? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭gifted


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Chased with a wooden spoon, or a wet dish cloth. The thoughts of the punishment were worse than the actual contact.
    Forgot about the wooden spoon lol lol...just wait until your dad comes home is another one I just remembered lol lol...jesus the waiting...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Mostly slaps, cane etc.



    What do you want? A comprehensive list of the child's misdemeanours? :confused:

    No, but if they're over reacting to every little thing, the kids will get used to the constant nagging and pay no attention


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭gifted


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    No, but if they're over reacting to every little thing, the kids will get used to the constant nagging and pay no attention

    Who said there getting constant nagging??
    Did you read my question?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    No, but if they're over reacting to every little thing, the kids will get used to the constant nagging and pay no attention

    I think you misread. He said no treats and grounding works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    gifted wrote: »
    Why do you want to know for?

    Three kids that no amount of grounding will help, you're the common denominator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Wooden spoon in our house. There was the threat of the belt but that was never carried out.
    Even now though, when I go off the rails I fear getting a smack of a wooden spoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,966 ✭✭✭gifted


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    Three kids that no amount of grounding will help, you're the common denominator

    Wtf?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Peregrine wrote: »
    I think you misread. He said no treats and grounding works.

    Maybe i am. I read it as no amount of grounding works, ie, tried that and no joy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    Maybe i am. I read it as no amount of grounding works, ie, tried that and no joy?

    You definitely are misreading. Or taking the piss.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,211 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Bamboo stick, stored over the fridge. I got many a wallop with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Soft cushions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    gifted wrote: »
    Wtf?

    I may, MAY! have completely misinterpreted your op.

    Apologies!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    Winterlong wrote: »
    You definitely are misreading. Or taking the piss.

    No, not taking the piss, just brain farted my way through


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I got the aul wooden spoon once or twice but usually it was something taken away like tv or games console and sent to my room.

    Have never had to discipline my son, if he does something wrong I tell him to stop and he usually does with no issue. Something I was told recently which makes complete and obvious sense is to explain to the child why what they're doing is wrong. It's not enough to just tell them it's wrong, help them to understand why it's wrong.

    Hitting or slapping will never be a tool I use to discipline. "Don't hit other kids!" *smack* yeah, thatll teach him...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    waterboarding leaves no visible marks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    Three kids that no amount of grounding will help, you're the common denominator
    No, you're misreading him. Re-read the OP more carefully. He disciplined his children with a combination of (a) withholding of treats that would otherwise have been given, and (b) grounding, and he found that this strategy worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Slaps, wooden spoon, belt. I got battered. Didn't improve my behaviour at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Naughty step. Not brought fun places on Sundays (that was our day for cinema swimming play centres etc) toys taken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    Three kids that no amount of grounding will help, you're the common denominator

    You misread the post again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    You misread the post again!

    I got there in the end though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    D0NNELLY wrote: »
    I got there in the end though :)


    Good, because I was about to threaten you with the wooden spoon!


    That's what I got - it never actually got used as far as I remember, but the threat was always there :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭oneilla


    "I'll break your neck if you fall down that stairs!!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    gifted wrote: »
    How were you punished when you done something wrong as kids?

    My mother suffered/suffers very badly with her mental health and my father was/is an alcoholic so we got thumped around the place, the non-physical stuff was worse though, to be honest. My mother was always the one dishing out the punishment, my father never laid a hand on us, he used to wreck the house though.
    Wooden spoon - to the point of it breaking. I couldn't count how many wooden spoons were brought into our house. When it broke it was a curse and a blessing, a curse because you'd be after getting a severe walloping for it to break and a blessing because you knew it would be at least a week before another one would be bought.
    Wavin pipe (leftover from work on the house) - this was so fúcking painful.
    And a whole host of various random objects that were within reach when the punishment for the perceived offence was being dished out. The perceived offence could be laughing at a tv show, coming home from school and waking up my mother (she spent a considerable amount of time in bed), burning your dinner (because I was 7 and surprisingly didn't know how to cook), etc.

    We used to take turns hiding the weapons but then you'd get thumped for hiding them.
    I used to go to school with welts and bruises all over me all the time. It used to be so embarrassing in PE, however, nobody gave a shíte about this sort of thing back then.

    (Oh and we were never given nice things that could be taken away if we were "bold" and we were never brought nice places that we could be prevented from going to if we were "bold". I was 8 the last time I got a card or present for birthday or Christmas.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    ^ that's devastating to read


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    Did anyone ever turn on your mam later on in life Erica? Physically I mean.

    (Assuming there's siblings of course)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    Did anyone ever turn on your mam later on in life Erica? Physically I mean.

    (Assuming there's siblings of course)

    Nah, I've a brother and sister and it was just a case of leaving home as soon as you could.

    I know it probably sounds bananas but even when I was getting thumped around and whatnot, I could never bring myself to retaliate physically, even when I got older and was taller than her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    erica74 wrote:
    I know it probably sounds bananas but even when I was getting thumped around and whatnot, I could never bring myself to retaliate physically, even when I got older and was taller than her.


    Had much the same with my own father. Even when I stood 6 foot 1 and 5 inches over him with him goading me into taking my chance I couldn't do it. Not out of love out of fear.
    Had my mother and sisters on him trying to pull him off me a good few times. Didn't know it then but it wasn't normal, far from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    "A good crack on the arse".

    I'm sure we've all been administered one of these in our time


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Got slapped across the face or a belt of a sweeping brush. Had my face stamped on once. That's only the tip of the ice berg.

    Have 4 kids myself and they walk all over me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Slaps off one parent, it never worked and I still find it hard to forgive, the silent treatment off the other was far worse and had much more impact, it made me think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    erica74 wrote: »
    My mother suffered/suffers very badly with her mental health and my father was/is an alcoholic so we got thumped around the place, the non-physical stuff was worse though, to be honest. My mother was always the one dishing out the punishment, my father never laid a hand on us, he used to wreck the house though.
    Wooden spoon - to the point of it breaking. I couldn't count how many wooden spoons were brought into our house. When it broke it was a curse and a blessing, a curse because you'd be after getting a severe walloping for it to break and a blessing because you knew it would be at least a week before another one would be bought.
    Wavin pipe (leftover from work on the house) - this was so fúcking painful.
    And a whole host of various random objects that were within reach when the punishment for the perceived offence was being dished out. The perceived offence could be laughing at a tv show, coming home from school and waking up my mother (she spent a considerable amount of time in bed), burning your dinner (because I was 7 and surprisingly didn't know how to cook), etc.

    We used to take turns hiding the weapons but then you'd get thumped for hiding them.
    I used to go to school with welts and bruises all over me all the time. It used to be so embarrassing in PE, however, nobody gave a shíte about this sort of thing back then.

    (Oh and we were never given nice things that could be taken away if we were "bold" and we were never brought nice places that we could be prevented from going to if we were "bold". I was 8 the last time I got a card or present for birthday or Christmas.)

    I take my hat off to you for writing that post. The psychological damage never heals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    God I was given some savage beatings as s child, didn't help, in fact made me much worse!!

    There was wooden spoons and those round wooden sticks used in the old baby cots, that was from my Mam lol

    My dad was an animal, I've had everything from iron bars to screw drivers used in me!! Stopped when I was 15 when I pulled him out of bed with a hammer, didn't hit him with it!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    KC161 wrote:
    I take my hat off to you for writing that post. The psychological damage never heals.


    No never. But you got to come to terms with it at some stage or it will eat you up slowly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    KC161 wrote: »
    I take my hat off to you for writing that post. The psychological damage never heals.

    I've had a few boards accounts down through the years and only recently rejoined after being off boards for a good few years. I've always maintained my anonymity (never met anybody off the site in real life or disclosed information that would identify me) but this is the first account through which I've ever been truly honest about myself. I don't even understand why that is. I suppose you carry shame with you about being mistreated, whereas the people mistreating you just seem to forget about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    No never. But you got to come to terms with it at some stage or it will eat you up slowly.

    The psychological damage with me will never heal, I've learned to cope with it yes, but heal no.

    Grew up without either of my parents .
    Raised by my maternal family consisting of grandparents, aunts, uncles.
    Used as a punch bag.
    Thrown into foster care and denied contact with my family.
    Raped several times by a family member.
    Ended up in state care at 14. Only then did I really begin life.

    I've self harmed, overdosed, and wasn't able to hold down a job. Up to the age of 23 I had no stability in my life whatsoever.

    Thankfully I met a decent and understanding girl who helped me and now we have our own family.

    Rightly or wrongly I am now a black sheep on both sides of the family. So My kids have no paternal family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    erica74 wrote:
    I've had a few boards accounts down through the years and only recently rejoined after being off boards for a good few years. I've always maintained my anonymity (never met anybody off the site in real life or disclosed information that would identify me) but this is the first account through which I've ever been truly honest about myself. I don't even understand why that is. I suppose you carry shame with you about being mistreated, whereas the people mistreating you just seem to forget about it.


    I didn't deal with any of it til my 30s Erica, like you I always thought I was the reason it happened to me as opposed to being an innocent victim.
    I had buried my head in the sand for years and only when I met one of my sisters after years apart she asked me did I ever come to terms with my childhood.
    I broke down as no one had ever asked me how I was that way before. Ever.
    Got counselling for a while but gave it up as I could never get to the bottom of it and it was much too painful to find out.
    Now i know what happened wasn't me, I was just unlucky, and lucky in comparison to others.
    Do something about it. Come to terms with it some way would be my advice. Best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    erica74 wrote: »
    I've had a few boards accounts down through the years and only recently rejoined after being off boards for a good few years. I've always maintained my anonymity (never met anybody off the site in real life or disclosed information that would identify me) but this is the first account through which I've ever been truly honest about myself. I don't even understand why that is. I suppose you carry shame with you about being mistreated, whereas the people mistreating you just seem to forget about it.

    I'm always someone who has remained anonymous on boards as well. I don't even have any friends who know I'm on here nor do I tell anyone my true identity here either. And I will never ask anyone their true identity.

    It seems some bits of our childhoods were similar from reading your story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭nhunter100


    D0NNELLY wrote:
    Three kids that no amount of grounding will help, you're the common denominator


    Well that escalated rather quickly, someone needs a timeout on the naughty step.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    KC161 wrote: »
    The psychological damage with me will never heal, I've learned to cope with it yes, but heal no.

    Grew up without either of my parents .
    Raised by my maternal family consisting of grandparents, aunts, uncles.
    Used as a punch bag.
    Thrown into foster care and denied contact with my family.
    Raped several times by a family member.
    Ended up in state care at 14. Only then did I really begin life.

    I've self harmed, overdosed, and wasn't able to hold down a job. Up to the age of 23 I had no stability in my life whatsoever.

    Thankfully I met a decent and understanding girl who helped me and now we have our own family.

    Rightly or wrongly I am now a black sheep on both sides of the family. So My kids have no paternal family.

    Very sorry to read that.

    My husband is also very understanding and very helpful when I'm going through bad patches. I was abused by my brother when I was a child and understandably, my husband has a very hard time dealing with that in particular but without him, I don't know where I would be. It takes a very strong person to handle a partner who has been abused.

    Bizarrely, I am also the black sheep. My sister is the only one I have a relationship with. Nobody else really keeps in touch with me and that sort of thing. So strange but then I also wonder is it because they feel guilty and by shutting me out, they can ignore their guilt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    I didn't deal with any of it til my 30s Erica, like you I always thought I was the reason it happened to me as opposed to being an innocent victim.
    I had buried my head in the sand for years and only when I met one of my sisters after years apart she asked me did I ever come to terms with my childhood.
    I broke down as no one had ever asked me how I was that way before. Ever.
    Got counselling for a while but gave it up as I could never get to the bottom of it and it was much too painful to find out.
    Now i know what happened wasn't me, I was just unlucky, and lucky in comparison to others.
    Do something about it. Come to terms with it some way would be my advice. Best of luck.

    I do plan on getting counselling some day but I'm just not there yet. I have a lot of medical stuff going on and I'd like to get all that under control before opening another can of worms.
    In the past few months, I told one of my closest friends about being abused by my brother as a child (my husband is the only other person who knows) and I'm still suffering from increased nightmares and stuff after talking about it for the first time in so long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭gitzy16v


    Erica,Andy and KC; I really hope you are all somewhat happy in your lives now,Im not an emotional person per se,but that really tugged at my heartstrings...I was going to jovially post about my dad cracking the belt at me as a threat but its pales into insignificance reading those posts.
    I had been dealing with somebody harming my own kids(no way near as bad) and it breaks my heart .
    Best wishes to you all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭koumi


    The childer punishes me, I don't know how she does it but I get sent to my room and told to be quiet. (she never had a hand raised to her)
    I was probably one of those pita children though because I saw my fair share of the lamh in my day. I'd probably feel neglected if I weren't scolded and told what to do by others at this stage :P


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