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Tree is the magic number . . .

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    #62
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    LordSutch wrote: »
    I prefer 'three' myself, but for strange reason some Irish people can't say three, why is that?

    Is it a class thing? or . . .

    Curious.

    Move to England mate and then you'll see butchering of English.

    My flatmate says "somefing, fhree and nuffing".


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    #63
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,761 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Move to England mate and then you'll see butchering of English.

    My flatmate says "somefing, fhree and nuffing".

    "Drawing" - "Draw-r-ing"


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    #64
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    LordSutch wrote: »
    I prefer 'three' myself, but for strange reason some Irish people can't say three, why is that?

    Is it a class thing? or . . .

    Curious.

    Move to England mate and then you'll see butchering of English.

    My flatmate says "somefing, fhree and nuffing".

    Oh don't get me started on the appalling standard of grammar & pronunciation in parts of England, but maybe that's for another thread.


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    #65
    Yourself isit
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    This business of "most" Irish people is a red herring ....

    Most Irish people can pronounce their th's, while quite obviously some can't.

    No. Most can't. It's slightly more pronounced in working class areas but it's universal in Dublin.


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    #66
    ziggy
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    #67
    LordSutch
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    Yourself isit wrote: »

    No. Most can't. It's slightly more pronounced in working class areas but it's universal in Dublin.

    Wrong.

    Most people can, but some can't, maybe as you say 'in working class areas"?


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    #68
    Yourself isit
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Wrong.

    Most people can, but some can't, maybe as you say 'in working class areas"?

    I'm wondering if you can hear your own accent? This is very noticeable if you come home from abroad. The Dublin 4 accent is no different. No th


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    #69
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,365 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Dialect is an interesting subject, accents change noticeable every 25 mile or so.

    http://www.davidcrystal.com/?id=3277

    My husband grew up in north Wales and has a mixture of Welsh with undertones of scouse to my ear anyway, however to a true scouse he sounds totally Welsh, so our perception of someone's accent is based on our own accent.


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    #70
    kunst nugget
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    Am I meant to feel intellectually inferior because I say 'Tirty tree'? I can say Thirty three if I'm arsed but ever since Steps were on the scene, I've had a hatred of H.


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    #71
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,365 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Am I meant to feel intellectually inferior because I say 'Tirty tree'? I can say Thirty three if I'm arsed but ever since Steps were on the scene, I've had a hatred of H.

    You wont be judge because you can pronounce it correctly but choose not to a subtle but important point, I think that may be the OP point!


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    #72
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Dialect is an interesting subject, accents change noticeable every 25 mile or so.

    http://www.davidcrystal.com/?id=3277

    My husband grew up in north Wales and has a mixture of Welsh with undertones of scouse to my ear anyway, however to a true scouse he sounds totally Welsh, so our perception of someone's accent is based on our own accent.

    The loss of local dialects and accent is now a real issue in the age of mass communications. "Estuary English" has cut a swath through the Home Counties area just as Dublin's southside young (well under about 40) now speak "Dart/Dort" thanks to AA Roadwatch.


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    #73
    pickarooney
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Thailand is an interesting one for you to choose as its the Thai people themselves who drop the th sound, hence the silent th when correctly pronounced. RTE pronounce Thailand with a silent th.

    Think Tie-land :-)

    This is so beautifully anglocentric :D


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    #74
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭degsie


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Thailand is an interesting one for you to choose as its the Thai people themselves who drop the th sound, hence the silent th when correctly pronounced. RTE pronounce Thailand with a silent th.

    Think Tie-land :-)

    Wouldn't a silent 'th' not make it eye-land?


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    #75
    glaswegian
    Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭glaswegian


    degsie wrote: »
    Some Scottish people pronounce 'j' as 'joy' and 'three' as 'kree', so yea a regional thing.
    never heard any of those two.


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    #76
    degsie
    Registered Users Posts: 8,738 ✭✭✭degsie


    glaswegian wrote: »
    never heard any of those two.

    https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1990871/scottish-pronunciation-of-the-letter-j

    The 'kree' is much less common, a guy I worked with used to say it, it is with a more 'guttural' k. Maybe he had a speech impediment :P


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    #77
    indioblack
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    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Move to England mate and then you'll see butchering of English.

    My flatmate says "somefing, fhree and nuffing".

    Come to Wiltshire, ["Wiltshur"], if thee wants to 'ear summat diffunt from they foreigners in London.
    Not very accurate as most of the old generation are gone and the local dialect is gradually dissipating.


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    #78
    jojofizzio
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    degsie wrote: »
    Wouldn't a silent 'th' not make it eye-land?

    Indeed...which is how many Brits pronounce the name of this country :D


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    #79
    misstearheus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭misstearheus


    Americans pronounce Heneghan Hennigan and Noel and Liam pronounce Gallagher with g but I suppose they're Noel and Liam so they can do whatever they want.


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    #80
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    LordSutch wrote: »
    Oh don't get me started on the appalling standard of grammar & pronunciation in parts of England, but maybe that's for another thread.
    sarf effix, now there's a place the English language has died!


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