Driving test and "print your own" insurance disc

Skatedude

my mother is with axa and she too got the email to print of the insurance form on a color printer. The other copy arrived in the post a week or two later.

The printed out copy is identical and the only difference would be the perforations to tear off the slip section.

powerstar

Just saw the replies on this thread. Actually AXA refunded me the test fee money when they refused driving test but you will have to apply again for retest. I am surprised this is still happening.

aby_lincoln

I was refused a driving test because the insurance disc did not have perforated sides. I did not print the disc myself - it was sent to me by 123.ie - how am I supposed to know that the disc does not satisfy the following condition:
"The vehicle must display a current valid original Insurance Disc (white background with a green band extending along left hand side)".

It had the green line and everything and was sent to me by post by 123.ie - I DID NOT PRINT THE DISC MYSELF - sorry for screaming - my driving instructor also checked everything to be OK before the test.

123.ie is saying that that's how they make and send the discs now - some test centers are creating problems. That is more annoying as it is not consistent (some centers!!!)

The tester himself told me that the disc is ok by Garda and law - but not okay to take a driving test.

How can an authority refuse to accept a document which is OK by the law of the country?

123.ie is paying me the 85 Euro fee for the test and will send me a disc with perforated sides.

But I think RSA is at fault here - they can't refuse to accept something which is accepted by the law.


This is not a question of 85 Euro - this is more about waste of time, energy - stress - and most importantly the feeling of being punished/humiliated without any fault of mine whatsoever.

Furthermore I will again have to book a test and wait for weeks (if not months) to take the test.

Who will compensate me for all these?

This is beyond outrageous - this is absolute nonsense - we should collectively do something.

mgbgt1978

"Talk to Joe".
Only joking

Seriously though, anybody who experiences this issue (and their family, friends, etc.) should bombard every single TD in the country with letters and emails.
Most of these new 'semi-state agencies' are basically told they have to be self-funding (in other words, use every trick you can to generate as much revenue as possible).
The RSA are taking the p1ss with this, and they know it.
The only way to change this is to make as much noise as possible.

TallGlass

Well if the law is saying the disc is legal, then it's legal.

Bring them to the small claims court for loss of earnings for the day if you had to take it off work.

Utter madness.

TallGlass

sydthebeat wrote: »

After doing some reading since it seems its not actually illegal but something the RSA have an issue with.

Typical Irish issue.

Well if the RSA have an issue with the law then go via the relevant channels, as it stands the discs are perfectly legal. Just because you don't agree with a law doesn't mean you can start making your own interpretation of it.

As for the testers, what powers of law do these guys have to examine and inspect a tax disc or insurance disc, that the job of a Garda or Revenue inspector. They should be checking if they are vaild.

As for my own personal stand point, in this day and age we shouldn't be wasting so much fúcking paper on discs, when we have ANPR.

Sue Pa Key Pa

Insurance discs are from a bygone era when colour printers we not easily accessible. Today, they are useless. Even the genuine ones only state that the car is insured, not the driver. Should be scrapped and replaced by a full rollout of ANPR as said above

CiniO

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

Insurance discs are from a bygone era when colour printers we not easily accessible. Today, they are useless. Even the genuine ones only state that the car is insured, not the driver. Should be scrapped and replaced by a full rollout of ANPR as said above

Yes, but what's the point in having even the best ANPR when it's not linked to relevant database containing correct and up to date insurance data.

TallGlass

CiniO wrote: »

Yes, but what's the point in having even the best ANPR when it's not linked to relevant database containing correct and up to date insurance data.

Well that lead the next question, where are the Gardaí getting there information from, if the ANPR systems ain't linked.

elperello

Why are the RSA so hung up about the disc when it doesn't prove that the test candidate is insured to drive the car?
Surely they should look for the insurance certificate.

TallGlass

elperello wrote: »

Why are the RSA so hung up about the disc when it doesn't prove that the test candidate is insured to drive the car?
Surely they should look for the insurance certificate.

They shouldn't, they have no legal power to be inspecting discs or anything like it. They should be looking at the window and if it's saying it's in date then that's the end of it. They have no legal power to inspect a disc, NCT/TAX/Insurance.

elperello

TallGlass wrote: »

They shouldn't, they have no legal power to be inspecting discs or anything like it. They should be looking at the window and if it's saying it's in date then that's the end of it. They have no legal power to inspect a disc, NCT/TAX/Insurance.

You are right.

According to this they just get you to read and sign a document confirming that you have proper insurance cover in place.

So why are some testers stressing over the provenance of the disc?

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Learner%20Drivers/Preparing_driving_test_DL_v2.pdf