Saudi Arabia elected to the UN Commission on the status of women

RobertKK

In case one did not know the UN is a joke, here is another example.
Saudi Arabia has been elected to the sit on the UN commission on the status of women.
The UN commission in question is responsible for gender equality and the empowerment of women.

In Saudi Arabia, a woman needs a male guardian with her to leave her home, and needs the guardians permission to marry, travel, get medical help and do business.
Women are not allowed to vote or be involved in politics.

Saudi Arabia also sits on the UN commission for human rights.

One could not make this up.
Shame on the UN.

ChikiChiki

In case anyone underestimates the power Saudi has over the world. Thats the definition of irony right there.

Richard Hillman

Who runs the world? Saud's
Who runs this mutha? Saud's
Who run the world? Saud's

The_Valeyard

RobertKK wrote: »

In case one did not know the UN is a joke, here is another example.
Saudi Arabia has been elected to the sit on the UN commission on the status of women.
The UN commission in question is responsible for gender equality and the empowerment of women.

In Saudi Arabia, a woman needs a male guardian with her to leave her home, and needs the guardians permission to marry, travel, get medical help and do business.
Women are not allowed to vote or be involved in politics.

Saudi Arabia also sits on the UN commission for human rights.

One could not make this up.
Shame on the UN.

Another reason people have turned away from respecting the UN

Dravokivich

Meetings are dull when everyone has agreed the same point of dicussion. Maybe they need the conflict of Saudi Arabia's position to affirm theirs and give'em focus.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Someone should ask Hilary Clinton what she thinks of this, after all she was happy to takes their millions in 'donations' when she was running for President.

henryporter

Meanwhile the US Secretary of State tries to tell us that Iran is the source of all the terrorism emanating from the Middle East. This and the UN decision is conclusive proof that we live in multiple parallel universes at the same time

Christy42

RobertKK wrote: »

In case one did not know the UN is a joke, here is another example.
Saudi Arabia has been elected to the sit on the UN commission on the status of women.
The UN commission in question is responsible for gender equality and the empowerment of women.

In Saudi Arabia, a woman needs a male guardian with her to leave her home, and needs the guardians permission to marry, travel, get medical help and do business.
Women are not allowed to vote or be involved in politics.

Saudi Arabia also sits on the UN commission for human rights.

One could not make this up.
Shame on the UN.

I never get how so many countries bow down to them over their own interests. I get oil and money but enough places have gone for morality over money that you think it would crop up more often in Saudi and countries like them. Even the so called feminist Swedish ministers deferred to sexist laws in Iran.

Obama was one of the few that did anything and even then it was overly late in the day when he stopped the sales of weapons (which were predictably continued when Trump got in).

RandomName2

RobertKK wrote: »

In case one did not know the UN is a joke, here is another example.
Saudi Arabia has been elected to the sit on the UN commission on the status of women.


Saudi Arabia also sits on the UN commission for human rights.

One could not make this up.
Shame on the UN.

Well Saudi Arabia is America's ally. If this was Iran or Syria we were talking about it would be a different matter altogether.

The Rape of Lucretia

RobertKK wrote: »

In case one did not know the UN is a joke, here is another example.
Saudi Arabia has been elected to the sit on the UN commission on the status of women.

Fundamentally what is wrong with this?
The UN is all-inclusive. Saudi Arabia's views on the status of women may not agree with yours, but their perspective is as entitled to be heard or have input as much as any other country - more possibly if their view is considered a minority one. It is great that the UN is not prejudicial on this point, and does include all views in commissions on such important issues. Their inclusion suggests an enlightened and well motivated UN - certainly not a joke organisation as you suggest.

A predictable continuation of another fine US foreign policy. First, discredit the UN by financially undermining its work via not paying billions in debt to the UN. Second, then bully it into accepting one of the most heinous regimes on the planet, with arguably the most vile dehumanisation of women's rights (Pakistan and India give it a run for the money, though), because the same régime is a great ally of the great moral protector of the world that is the United States of America. Third, should the UN not be a puppet of the whims of the United States of America, well good old Uncle Sam will never pay its debts to the UN.

Elmer Blooker

Its all part of a campaign to try and show Saudi Arabia in a good light.
Its a PR stunt, a case of ...Saudi Arabia isn't perfect but its getting there.
Heres a perfect example of pro Saudi propaganda in operation.

Theresa May has said she hopes to send a message about women in leadership when she visits Saudi Arabia,

Yeah right! May was in Saudi Arabia on ... cough .. cough .. "business"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/03/theresa-may-hopes-example-female-potential-saudi-arabia

Ulysses Gaze

Wonder will many leading feminists and feminists groups be as vocal in their outrage over this as they would be over other issues.

steddyeddy

RobertKK wrote: »

In case one did not know the UN is a joke, here is another example.
Saudi Arabia has been elected to the sit on the UN commission on the status of women.
The UN commission in question is responsible for gender equality and the empowerment of women.

In Saudi Arabia, a woman needs a male guardian with her to leave her home, and needs the guardians permission to marry, travel, get medical help and do business.
Women are not allowed to vote or be involved in politics.

Saudi Arabia also sits on the UN commission for human rights.

One could not make this up.
Shame on the UN.

They celebrated getting on the commission for human rights with a good old crucifixion.

More like shame on anyone who goes there.

nice_guy80

Amazing what oil will buy you

They're also projecting themselves militarily a lot for the last decade

Trying to counter Iran

Ulysses Gaze

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Amazing what oil will buy you

They're also projecting themselves militarily a lot for the last decade

Trying to counter Iran

And from internal insurrection.

Once the oil runs out, and their money they've invested in the West, the House of Saud is screwed.

Back to desert and raising camels for them at best. Or death at worst.

Billy86

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Someone should ask Hilary Clinton what she thinks of this, after all she was happy to takes their millions in 'donations' when she was running for President.

It would make more sense to ask Trump, given that he accepted millions from them, set up multiple businesses there during the campaign itself on top of the ones he already had there, and is actually the president of the US.

ScumLord

I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing. We need to include them and lead by example.

Ulysses Gaze

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing. We need to include them and lead by example.

I would agree if this would lead to anything positive in Saudi Arabia for women.

But it most likely will not.

RobertKK

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Fundamentally what is wrong with this?
The UN is all-inclusive. Saudi Arabia's views on the status of women may not agree with yours, but their perspective is as entitled to be heard or have input as much as any other country - more possibly if their view is considered a minority one. It is great that the UN is not prejudicial on this point, and does include all views in commissions on such important issues. Their inclusion suggests an enlightened and well motivated UN - certainly not a joke organisation as you suggest.

Do you honestly believe it will change anything in Saudi Arabia?

Shenshen

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

I would agree if this would lead to anything positive in Saudi Arabia for women.

But it most likely will not.

It may or may not, but I'd take any chance to possibly influence the situation for the better over that glowing feeling of having self-righteously told someone off.

It took women in the West more than a century to obtain something resembling equality, so I would expect any steps being made in Saudi Arabia being small. There have been some protests, there are women driving and posting clips of themselves behind the wheels on social media. Anything that can be done to help them along even a little bit must be a good thing, surely?

keano_afc

It always makes me laugh when people cite the UN's interference in our laws as grounds for changing them.

They are an embarrassment.

ArmaniJeanss

Have we a link for this. I wanted to see the actual nut&bolts facts behind the OP but there only seems to be one site ( 'dailycaller' which is a website I've never heard of) saying it.

steddyeddy

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing. We need to include them and lead by example.

Let's be honest. SA have some pretty backward views on women, the poor and different ethnic groups. If they sit on a commission that has the role of advancing the position of one of these groups, you could see them influencing the outcome negatively.

diomed

Will women be allowed drive driverless cars in Saudia Arabia?
Only allowed if they have curtains on the windows?

ScumLord

steddyeddy wrote: »

Let's be honest. SA have some pretty backward views on women, the poor and different ethnic groups. If they sit on a commission that has the role of advancing the position of one of these groups, you could see them influencing the outcome negatively.

They might try, but if they're part of a committee they'll likely be dragged along with the flow of the group, they'll probably take part in initiatives and see any positive outcomes from them. I'm not saying it would be the thing that changes them but it will include them in the women's rights process.

It's a step, it may fail miserably but I think it's worth a try, it's not like they'll be able to start rolling back women's rights.

The Backwards Man

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Have we a link for this. I wanted to see the actual nut&bolts facts behind the OP but there only seems to be one site ( 'dailycaller' which is a website I've never heard of) saying it.

The Daily Caller is often described as the most unethical news publication in the US, which when considering the competition, is quite a mean feat.

RobertKK

5 EU countries voted for Saudi Arabia to be on the commission that deals with women rights.

There is growing outrage about the decision that got Saudi Arabia onto the commission. Claims their petrodollars helped get them elected.

Junkyard Tom

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing. We need to include them and lead by example.

Em.. no. They probably think they're leading us by example. They need to be treated the same way South Africa was for its behaviour.

monty_python

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Fundamentally what is wrong with this?
The UN is all-inclusive. Saudi Arabia's views on the status of women may not agree with yours, but their perspective is as entitled to be heard or have input as much as any other country - more possibly if their view is considered a minority one. It is great that the UN is not prejudicial on this point, and does include all views in commissions on such important issues. Their inclusion suggests an enlightened and well motivated UN - certainly not a joke organisation as you suggest.

Well said

Elmer Blooker

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Fundamentally what is wrong with this?
The UN is all-inclusive. Saudi Arabia's views on the status of women may not agree with yours, but their perspective is as entitled to be heard or have input as much as any other country - more possibly if their view is considered a minority one. It is great that the UN is not prejudicial on this point, and does include all views in commissions on such important issues. Their inclusion suggests an enlightened and well motivated UN - certainly not a joke organisation as you suggest.

Yes, an very enlightened and well motivated UN.
Is that why the vote was kept secret and the 5 EU states that voted for Saudi Arabia are not being disclosed? Why not? We are entitled to know who these five are.
What is wrong with a secret ballot? The UN is beyond a joke at this stage.