Shaking up the brands (Raw & SD Spoilers - Shakeup Discussion)

Mokuba

Observer rates Styles to Raw and New Day to Smackdown as extremely likely next week.

No word on who will swap over to Raw to replace Styles though - as even with Nakamura, Cena will probably work the same amount of dates as Brock, so he needs to be replaced too - Sami, Rollins or Balor probably.

Edit - Think they may have also said Alexa Bliss and Charlotte could swap.

beakerjoe

Mokuba wrote: »

Observer rates Styles to Raw and New Day to Smackdown as extremely likely next week.

No word on who will swap over to Raw to replace Styles though - as even with Nakamura, Cena will probably work the same amount of dates as Brock, so he needs to be replaced too - Sami, Rollins or Balor probably.

I think a few months ago Reigns was expected to switch. Not a chance in my mind, but Ive been wrong before. He's the guy according to Vince, so hes staying for me.

Rollins or Balor would be the men but both are faces and if AJ is gone, Smackdown is lacking a top heel. Im gonna guess Owens to make the jump.

With New Day being as over as they are, Id be surprised if they go. With Cesaro and Sheamo the number one contenders, Id say Gallows and Anderson might jump or Enzo/Cass might jump.

Bliss and Charlotte to swap for me.

Bounty Hunter

I kinda fear The Club will jump and miss out on re-uniting with AJ

Think Nakamura is the Cena replacement on SD so dunno if they will draft a big name to replace him. Owens would be a good shout but his association with Joe & HHH makes me think he would stay on Raw. Maybe Orton can go heel and then it wouldn't have to be a heel to replace AJ and it could be someone like Rollins. I was suggesting in the SD thread that Charlotte could swap with Becky (cos I thought Sasha might go heel so a heel replacement wouldn't be neccesary) but them reporting Charlotte for Alexa also makes sense.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cena gets drafted to Raw even though he won't be showing up much there for the foreseeable future. That'd probably mean Nikki goes there too but she too may almost never wrestle. I could see DIY getting called up soon enough too and if that is to happen what with the Revival going to Raw i'd say they would be SD bound so maybe American Alpha would be the team to head to Raw for the New Day

So now I recon

SD get:

Rollins
Charlotte
Sami Zayn
The New Day

Raw Get:

John Cena ( & Nikki Bella)
AJ Styles
Alexa Bliss
American Alpha

Lord TSC

I'd personally love to see the New Day get a push to the main event while still staying a group. They've grown massively stale in the tag division because they have outgrown it and have nothing to work with. Having Kofi win the title, while Big E and Kofi help, would be a fresh story.

I actually hope Smackdown doesn't get a "big dog" in return for AJ. I want to see how they do when they push a Sami or someone like that.

connemara man

Lord TSC wrote: »

I'd personally love to see the New Day get a push to the main event while still staying a group. They've grown massively stale in the tag division because they have outgrown it and have nothing to work with. Having Kofi win the title, while Big E and Kofi help, would be a fresh story.

I actually hope Smackdown doesn't get a "big dog" in return for AJ. I want to see how they do when they push a Sami or someone like that.

Big E for the title with Kofi and Xavier helping for me

beakerjoe

connemara man wrote: »

Big E for the title with Kofi and Xavier helping for me

I'm praying for a split of the group..... or at least a heel turn but with the amount of merch the sell, My wishes shall fall on deaf ears

CastorTroy

I would like them to split New Day and give Big E a chance on his own, maybe on Smackdown.

Should we start a separate thread for this draft talk?

beakerjoe

Oh and I hate the "Superstar Shake up" moniker. It just sounds awful and the more its repeated the more I want to tune out.

Just call it the Draft ffs

Bounty Hunter

CastorTroy wrote: »

I would like them to split New Day and give Big E a chance on his own, maybe on Smackdown.

Should we start a separate thread for this draft talk?

yes, yes we should.

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing Big E get a singles push too but keep the 3 lads together as a group while it's happening for the merch sales at the very least.

The tag divisons looks so much healthier post mania on SD and Raw


The Hardys
The Club
The Revival,
The Usos
American Alpha
Cesaro & Sheamus
Enzo & Cass
The New Day
DIY (maybe)

CastorTroy

Maybe they want to be able to refer to the draft as "The Annual Draft".
You think NXT guys can be involved? Be funny if someone was drafted to NXT. Maybe Apollo

Agent Coulson

Will there be many Future Endeavored in the usual post WM cull this year I wonder now that the Superstar Shake is taking place.

beakerjoe

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Will there be many Future Endeavored in the usual post WM cull this year I wonder now that the Superstar Shake is taking place.

Gotch already gone but he asked for his release.

DM_7

Rusev and Lana to Smackdown please.

He could make the step up to main event on Smackdown. He could be like a Russian Kurt Angle if they got behind him as he can be funny, ridiculous and menacing at the same time.

Lana could get some wrestling time on Smackdown.

Big E to Smackown also, give him a shot to go on his own.

Rollins to Smackdown

AJ to RAW to meet up with the club again.

Wyatt to RAW, away from Orton, Harper.

Heath Slater to RAW and let him join New Day for the laugh.

beakerjoe

DM_7 wrote: »

Rusev and Lana to Smackdown please.

He could make the step up to main event on Smackdown. He could be like a Russian Kurt Angle if they got behind him as he can be funny, ridiculous and menacing at the same time.

Lana could get some wrestling time on Smackdown.

Big E to Smackown also, give him a shot to go on his own.

Rollins to Smackdown

AJ to RAW to meet up with the club again.

Wyatt to RAW, away from Orton, Harper.

Heath Slater to RAW and let him join New Day for the laugh.

Great shout..... yes please

Bounty Hunter

If he wasn't out injured I'd say Rusev would be a real possibility. Maybe that will happen at the actual draft though, I wanna see him interact with Kurt on Raw before that though

Lord TSC

beakerjoe wrote: »

Oh and I hate the "Superstar Shake up" moniker. It just sounds awful and the more its repeated the more I want to tune out.

Just call it the Draft ffs

Ill take a guess that they don't know what format it will take yet. Could be that they say Bryan and Angle sit down and just organise some trades, rather than a "draft" so they aren't tied into a specific format.

ERG89

Mokuba wrote:

Edit - Think they may have also said Alexa Bliss and Charlotte could swap.

Makes sense. Absolutely massive difference in match quality in that trade mind.
Kalisto needs to go to Raw for the cruiserweight division the guy is not nor will he ever be a new Rey Mysterio. Samoa Joe to Smackdown as he & Braun I find are a bit too similar. Been underwhelmed by Joe for a long time mind.
Miz should be the main heel on Smackdown post trades tho.

Agent Coulson

Will the 205's finally shake it up on Smackdown.

Chain Smoker

I could see Brock being drafted to Smackdown to keep him away from Roman, and it'll coincide with a realisation that his dates are almost used up.

This draft is gonna be all about trying to figure out how to prop up 3 hour raw, smackdown will suffer and Raw will benefit very little.

JP Liz V1

Lord TSC wrote: »

Ill take a guess that they don't know what format it will take yet. Could be that they say Bryan and Angle sit down and just organise some trades, rather than a "draft" so they aren't tied into a specific format.

Oh yes yes yes to any D Bryan and Angle together scenario

If Roode is called up, he could be a heel on SD, I think Miz and Wyatt need to stay on SD, maybe Ambrose and Orton to Raw with Rollins to SD

princemuzzy

Aj to Raw

full blown club reunion , Aj,Finn,Gallows and Anderson

all goes well for months and months Aj,Gallows and Anderson turn on finn at Survivor Series or Rumble

Sets up the best Mania Main event for years Aj Vs Finn for the belt

hufpc8w3adnk65

princemuzzy wrote: »

Aj to Raw

full blown club reunion , Aj,Finn,Gallows and Anderson

all goes well for months and months Aj,Gallows and Anderson turn on finn at Survivor Series or Rumble

Sets up the best Mania Main event for years Aj Vs Finn for the belt

As Gabrielle once said "Dreams Can Come True"

Lord TSC

Just noticed on WWE's Youtube channel, their header says the shakeup is a two night event, starting on Raw.

CastorTroy

So I assume Raw chooses theirs then SD chooses on Tuesday

Bounty Hunter

CastorTroy wrote: »

So I assume Raw chooses theirs then SD chooses on Tuesday

nothings set afaik but I get the impression it is more trades than drafts. Maybe they will just announce a few on Raw and then a few more the next night. I wouldn't be surprised for example if at the end of Raw Kurt Angle announces he just finalized a trade for.... out comes AJ Styles... but we have to wait until the next night to see who SD got in exchange.

SureYWouldntYa

I know it's heavily rumoured anyway, but I took the fact Styles was wearing blue and red gear at Mania to be a strong indicator of him moving

Agent Coulson

AJ moves to RAW to put over Reigns

SureYWouldntYa

Agent Coulson wrote: »

AJ moves to RAW to put over Reigns

Ah here twice is enough, I hope Styles moves into a programme with Balor of some kind

Pentecost

Some talk on the interweb of a shake up for the women. Sasha or Charlotte to Smackdown is likely apparently. Alexa possibly going the other way, wouldn't be shocked if Becky went to Raw either. Herself and Charlotte will be gutted if they're kept apart again!

CastorTroy

So this is tomorrow night.

Wasn't there one draft where someone was drafted and then drafted back in the same night?
Any word yet on how this is going to work?

ERG89

CastorTroy wrote:

Wasn't there one draft where someone was drafted and then drafted back in the same night? Any word yet on how this is going to work?

Most of the Raw roster were told to go to the Smackdown taping as well.
I doubt they knew when it was announced on Monday how it'd work. Shane seemed to not know on Talking Smack

Lithium93_

CastorTroy wrote: »

So this is tomorrow night.

Wasn't there one draft where someone was drafted and then drafted back in the same night?
Any word yet on how this is going to work?

Yeah that was John Cena in 2011.

PTH2009

i wonder are any tag teams going to be split ???

imagine the Gallows being drafted too SD and Anderson staying on raw
Big Cass to SD and Enzo staying on raw
Jeff Hardy to SD and Matt Hardy too Raw

Aj Styles too raw will happen id say and I can Rollins being drafted to SD to replace him

looking forward too this. Apperently the Raw roster will be on SD tuesday night (obv going to end in a mass brawl between the 2 rosters). I imagine all you guys going to the house show in Dublin will be watching closely as it will no doubt effect the card for the show

sky88

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Yeah that was John Cena in 2011.

I think it happened hhh one year too think 08 or 09

Mr. Guappa

sky88 wrote: »

I think it happened hhh one year too think 08 or 09

IIRC HHH was drafted to Smackdown, then traded back to Raw in exchange for Booker T and The Dudley Boyz.

PTH2009

The wwe slam app have made a big mistake and spoiled 2 names for the shake up. AJ Styles is going to Raw and Charlotte to SD.http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/wwe-rumors-wwe-slam-app-may-spoiled-two-superstars-will-switching-brands-photo

Mokuba

Well a lot of people knew that those were locks anyway so not a massive faux pas.

I do wonder though if they will do all the Smack down to Raw trades tonight and the Raw to Smack down trades tomorrow.

Lithium93_

sky88 wrote: »

I think it happened hhh one year too think 08 or 09

Just a bit off the mark, was actually 2004.

johnnyryan89

Is this just like a mini draft of each show gets four or five picks or actual trades like the example of Triple H going to Smackdown Sandown and Raw getting him back by trading Dudleys and Booker T I think.

So Raw wants Styles and in return Smackdown wants New Day or Rollins and Zayn.

CastorTroy

Wonder if Daniel Bryan will try to get rid of The Miz. Or maybe he'll want to go and Daniel won't let him

Lord TSC

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Is this just like a mini draft of each show gets four or five picks or actual trades like the example of Triple H going to Smackdown Sandown and Raw getting him back by trading Dudleys and Booker T I think.

So Raw wants Styles and in return Smackdown wants New Day or Rollins and Zayn.

They've not revealed how it will work yet, but I'd imagine it will be "Bryan and Angle sat down, made some decisions, tonight on Raw, find out who is now on Raw, tomorrow on Smackdown, find out who has gone there."

I'm going with...

Raw: AJ, Alexa, Usos, American Alpha, Corbin

Smackdown: Rollins, Charlotte, Hardyz, Cesaro, Sheamus, Sami

kopite386

I don't know how reliable it is as rumours are always going around but has anyone else heard that WWE want to give Big Cass a solo run if they do I wouldn't be surprised to see them split up Enzo & Cass - I know they could push him as solo with Enzo outside the ring but just a thought

Also they won't or at least I doubt they will trade any of the inactive wrestlers so Cena & Nikki will stay on Smackdown Live! but I don't know that that's just me guessing

I was thinking Miz & Maryse could go to Raw after the fued with Cena is over but he could end up being placed in the midcard and forgotten all about on Raw whereas on Smackdown he's one of the top guys

I know they said champions aren't off the table they could be traded but that was last week when they knew nothing about the draft, so does anyone think they will trade champions or will the champions stay on their respective shows

I'd also like to see them trade more than 1 diva maybe send Carmella & Natalya to Raw and then maybe Charlotte & Sasha to Smackdown! And give Sasha a heel run

PTH2009

I imagine

Vince and The Managers will be in the ring too kick off the show with the whole wwe roster on the stage. Each GM will get too pick someone to join there roster and they will face off and the winner of that match will win a pick for there brand etc. We may get a few raw vs sd matches and then the normal Raw storyline things too

expect a brawl between both sets of rosters to end either Raw or SD this week

Lord TSC

I think at least one set of champions will swap; Ambrose/Owens makes the most sense, since their titles don't have the brand names in them. But I really wouldn't be shocked if it's Hardyz/Usos, and they make a deal to swap titles.

I think at least one of the debutantes from last week will switch too, to be "unpredictable".

Itssoeasy

Lord TSC wrote: »

I think at least one set of champions will swap; Ambrose/Owens makes the most sense, since their titles don't have the brand names in them. But I really wouldn't be shocked if it's Hardyz/Usos, and they make a deal to swap titles.

I think at least one of the debutantes from last week will switch too, to be "unpredictable".

Yeah them branding the titles colour wise to each show does kind of stop them from doing that with champions.

CastorTroy

Disappointing to think we could have Angle and Bryan facing each other but not in a match.

SureYWouldntYa

If we get Angle at some stage it'll still be a sight to see, I've accepted Bryan is gone, really hoping to see Angle at WM34

ricero

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

If we get Angle at some stage it'll still be a sight to see, I've accepted Bryan is gone, really hoping to see Angle at WM34

Reckon we might see Angle as early as summerslam

Pinkman

I think Rollins is the main guy who really needs a fresh start on SD. After Joe (they can have a match tonight) what other heels are left on Raw for him to feud with? Stowman is stuck with Roman and Brock and he's already faced KO many times late last year. There are no other top heels left. On SD however he has loads of fresh feuds. The relatively fresh (especially if Orton turns heel) Orton feud for the belt, AJ Styles (if he stays), The Miz, a heel Ambrose, Nakamura etc.

Lord TSC

Apollo Crews

has officially moved from Smackdown to Raw. Announced via the YouTube channel.

kopite386

Could we see any debuting NXT stars tonight or tomorrow, I would like Roode to come up to the main roster I have seen him in TNA rather than NXT, the only problem is he needs to drop his belt as I doubt they would just vacate it

Speaking of NXT is Shinsuke Nakamura Heel or Face ?