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What would you sacrifice for the island whole again?

  • 30-03-2017 12:30pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭


    I was thinking about this since it is quite relevant right now. I'm thinking about how we would manage to integrate the 6 counties back into our country, if it ever occurred.

    I think myself that it wont only be the €6000 tax per a household that I being told by others about but genuine steps will need to be made in order to integrate the whole of Ulster.

    I think myself that if it were to occur the whole of parliament would need to be moved to Belfast. Could we continue to call the Garda the Garda?

    So what would you be willing to sacrifice for a 32 counties?

    Oh and I realise in advance I'm leaving my self quite open for abuse, but then I think about Martin McGuinness reaching across the table with his arm out reached.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    'Bout three fiddy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Beanntraigheach


    Southern Tayto.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Nothing.

    Let Northern Ireland be independent if it wants, but no thanks to unification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭purpleisafruit


    I wouldn't sacrifice anything. I'm already paying far too much in tax.
    NI should be independent if they want out of the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Nothing. Don't want the basket case that is Northern Ireland. I don't fancy the loyalist uprising that it would cause. I've seen enough of it in the past. I don't want the expense....it would mean much higher taxes for security and social welfare (theirs is much lower than ours). I quite like Ireland as it is. It's nice to feel safe without the threat of terrorist attacks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,419 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    nothing. wether Ireland is unified again is of little consequence to me. Sure I'd like to see it but I'm not all that bothered if I'm honest.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Zero interest in a United Ireland, it would cost us a lot more than that €6k tax you mentioned and it's simply not something we can afford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Etc


    I'd sacrifice a few pallets and tyres for a July 12th bonfire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    voz es wrote: »
    I think myself that if it were to occur the whole of parliament would need to be moved to Belfast.
    Wait, what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Change of Facebook filter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Would a unified Ireland mean the end to fireworks runs up to Newry and beyond at Halloween?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    I wouldn't sacrifice anything. If it was beneficial and democractically arrived at then happy days. I occationally see various things poping up telling me it would be a major boost to the economcy etc. etc. but I never read them to see if they've actually done any research or just pulled the idea out their arse. I suspect the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Your life


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    voz es wrote: »
    I think myself that if it were to occur the whole of parliament would need to be moved to Belfast.
    Fcuk that! They're joining Ireland, not the other way around!

    I'd sacrifice the catholic church. Become Protestants :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    I would do anything for love


    But I won't do that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭red ears


    55p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    Dundalk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Something like 220,000 people in northern ireland work in the UK public sector. Absorbing that in a united ireland would be a tad difficult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    biko wrote: »
    Your life

    Cry Freedom Biko, Cry Freedom I tell you :-D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭voz es


    Winterlong wrote: »
    Something like 220,000 people in northern ireland work in the UK public sector. Absorbing that in a united ireland would be a tad difficult.

    That is bloody Massive.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    A lister diesel cement mixer, we could build a wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭Huawei Gallagher


    I was actually involved in this situation. Lived in Germany during re-unification. They needed to impose a Tax to pay for it. I was happy to pay, a lot of the the Germans just bitched and moaned about the Tax and could care less about the freedom/return of their fellow Germans and the historic significance.

    There is always a percentage of people who claim to be proud to be Irish and wave flags and wear jerseys but bury their head in the sand when Irish people are mistreated and would gladly screw over their fellow Irishman if it meant an extra euro in their wage packet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    You're right it won't be €6000 per household - it'll be more like €7,500 per household per year in the immediate aftermath of re-unification.

    I'd give up our crappy public services if we meant we got better ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    A lister diesel cement mixer, we could build a wall.

    In Ireland it's more of a lid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,472 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    They'd probably go on strike first :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    the_syco wrote: »
    Fcuk that! They're joining Ireland, not the other way around!

    I'd sacrifice the catholic church. Become Protestants :pac:

    Having effectively married into Protestantism, I can reassure you that I'm feeling 15% less guilty and the traybakes are exquisite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    I for one am patently thrilled at the prospect of assmilating the lumpen Loyalist working class into our society.


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd sacrifice Donegal.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭Jack the Stripper


    I'd sacrifice Donegal.

    Is Donegal even real sure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    not a cent but the Angelus i could move on

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭gw80


    I was recently talking to a guy from belfast, his business involved him driving quiet a lot,around Ireland, he drove a 4lt audi a8,
    We got into talking about his car and i asked him how much he was paying for tax and insurance, he said about £400 for tax and somthing like £250 for insurance or vise versa, he nearly died when i told him he would pay up to about 3 grand in tax in the south on that car,
    Just on that reason alone, why anyone in the north want to join in to be gouged out of it by the state and private gougers we have in the republic,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    I'd sacrifice everyone who has ever posted on Boards. It's the only way we'll ever have peace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Jrop


    Having effectively married into Protestantism, I can reassure you that I'm feeling 15% less guilty and the traybakes are exquisite.

    Damn must have married into the wrong branch of Protestantism cos no traybakes :P:P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭The Specialist


    Nothing, don't have any interest in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    6 grand is a bit much, offer them 3. We can break it up and sell off the counties individually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Nothing.

    Once the Prods arrived there 400 years ago the game was up and it is too costly for us to take back now anyway.

    Now that EU money will soon dry up let the Brits pay for it.

    I don't think the boys on the Shankhill realise how unpopular they will be in a few years time when it's costing Britain even more to keep it going.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,222 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Be great on a sporting front. We could then claim Darren Clarke, Graham McDowell and Rory Mcilroy as our own.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    I don't think it would cost as much as common thought seems to suggest. I hear the example of East Germany all the time but people seem to forget that it was part of the Soviet Union for 50 years and hadn't seen much investment, hence poor infrastructure.

    Tax here isn't bad despite what people say. I'd wish some people would take a tour of Scandinavia, Denmark and the like. The only difference is they get services, we don't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    I'd sacrifice Sinn Fein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    Would you sacrifice 2 thirds of Connacht, say Mayo Sligo and Galway (Yes, the good bits)

    For northern Ireland?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    gw80 wrote: »
    I was recently talking to a guy from belfast, his business involved him driving quiet a lot,around Ireland, he drove a 4lt audi a8,
    We got into talking about his car and i asked him  how much he was paying for tax and insurance, he said about £400 for tax and somthing like £250 for insurance or vise versa, he nearly died when i told him he would pay up to about 3 grand in tax in the south on that car,
    Just on that reason alone, why anyone in the north want to join in to be gouged out of it by the    state and private gougers we have in the republic,
    I was reading it costs like 50+ euros to get a meeting with a GP and you pay for subscriptions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,563 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Elemonator wrote: »
    I hear the example of East Germany all the time but people seem to forget that it was part of the Soviet Union for 50 years

    Maybe wherever you're from can invest in some good history textbooks as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I was reading it costs like 50+ euros to get a meeting with a GP and you pay for subscriptions?

    Yep and go to A and E and sit for hours to be seen and get charged 100 euro for it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Glenster wrote: »
    Would you sacrifice 2 thirds of Connacht, say Mayo Sligo and Galway (Yes, the good bits)

    For northern Ireland?

    I'd sacrifice Mayo for any one of the six counties. :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Yep and go to A and E and sit for hours to be seen and get charged 100 euro for it.
    Go to the likes of westdoc first (if it's outside of GP hours) and they'll send you to the hospital, I don't think you pay the €100 then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    on the plus side, we'd get an extra bank holiday and easier access to bowler hats :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Absolutely zero. I don't want the 6 counties as part of Ireland.

    I know in my heart and soul that it will never happen in my lifetime and probably not in my children's life time either. You have to remember that there are approx 50% of the NI population which would be staunchly opposed to such a unification. Convincing them otherwise isn't going to happen anytime remotely soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Unifying NI with the Republic will only work if they spend years of failure outside of the UK.

    It would be too much to ask them to leave the UK and join the Republic because there is too much financial impact to the people living there.

    Currently UK pay less income tax and have the NHS for healthcare.

    Asking them to stump up another few K per year in taxes and to drop free healthcare would be enough to cause an uprising by itself.

    If the leave the UK they would need to govern themselves for a while and if it is an economic failure they can be accepted into the Republic and you wont have any whining about what they have lost.


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