Ban cars from rush hour?

Arcade_Tryer

http://www.newstalk.com/Dublin-congestion-makes-it-slowestmoving-major-city

From article

One major impediment to future growth, according to the report, is Dublin's problem with traffic congestion.
It was, in fact, ranked as the "slowest-moving" major city in the world. According to INRIX 2016 Traffic Scorecard data, Dublin traffic moves at just 7.5km per hour during times of congestion, with rush-hour speeds of a mere 5.5km per hour – "slower than a horse and cart".

Cars are a pain for both pedestrians and cyclists trying to negotiate Dublin city centre and other urban areas at rush hour. Sorry various car brand owners.

PARlance

I'm buying a tractor.

uck51js9zml2yt

If they banned cars then we wouldn't be able to reply to daft threads about right hour traffic as they wouldn't exist;)

hungry hypno toad

Might be better to just ban rush hour.

Senna

hungry hypno toad wrote: »

Might be better to just ban rush hour.

Just ban work, that's the cause of rush hour, tackle the problem at the root.

stimpson

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

http://www.newstalk.com/Dublin-congestion-makes-it-slowestmoving-major-city

From article

Cars are a pain for both pedestrians and cyclists trying to negotiate Dublin city centre and other urban areas at rush hour. Sorry various car brand owners.

Great idea. I'll just use our world class public transport system instead.

mikeoneilly

Put a charge on cars at peak times with 1 occupant

Force workers to car pool

donvito99

Build Metro North (the original, not Metro Lite), Dart Underground.

Scuttle all Bus Rapid bullshit projects immediately. Do it properly and stop handicapping Dublin with shoddy infrastructure.

biko

I don't live in Dublin so I'm just here to say "why don't you just leave the house a little earlier?"

hungry hypno toad

biko wrote: »

I don't live in Dublin so I'm just here to say "why don't you just leave the house a little earlier?"

I like to arrive late and leave early.

Better yet.. Let's ban working.

Winterlong

Implement a proper park and ride system. Make it easier for people to get around inside the canals. More integration of existing systems. Treat city centre work parking spots as BIK. And maybe a congestion charge to boot.

pauliebdub

I'd agree with a congestion charge, it's ludicrous seeing the streets clogged with cars with one person in each one. Invest the money raised into better public transport.

Noddyholder

Why do they call it rush hour when no one is rushing anywhere according to OP ?

uck51js9zml2yt

biko wrote: »

I don't live in Dublin so I'm just here to say "why don't you just leave the house a little earlier?"

show off . Next thing you'll be saying is that everyone should work at night and prevent rush hour happening.

mikeoneilly

pauliebdub wrote: »

I'd agree with a congestion charge, it's ludicrous seeing the streets clogged with cars with one person in each one. Invest the money raised into better public transport.

If not forced car pooling, a lot of workers and organisations could easily be moved to different
shift patterns with the right incentives or penalties

Creative thinking could go a long way here

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Move the work to other towns and reduce the rush in Dublin.

RayM

Build large park & ride facilities along all major routes into Dublin. And then introduce congestion charges.

Beasty

PARlance wrote: »

I'm buying a tractor.

They're great for drafting behind on a bike. Turns a 30+ kph commute into one at 40+ kph. So I'm happy to let the other vehicles queue up on the M1/M50 and leave the other roads to farmers and cyclists....

suicide_circus

RayM wrote: »

Build large park & ride facilities along all major routes into Dublin. And then introduce congestion charges.

dogging is it?

Archeron

Give everybody a jet pack

masculinist

school and work times should be staggered to ease congestion.

When I lived in Croatia , in Zagreb kids could attend classes in school at 6 and 7 pm if they wanted to.

clevtrev

masculinist wrote: »

school and work times should be staggered to ease congestion.

When I lived in Croatia , in Zagreb kids could attend classes in school at 6 and 7 pm if they wanted to.

I'm sure ASTI would have no problem with that suggestion:eek:

MadYaker

I think some way of forcing people to carpool would be good. Galway has the same problem and if you look at the jams 80% of the cars only have one person in them. It's madness really when you think about it and I'm guilty of it too.

Graces7

MadYaker wrote: »

I think some way of forcing people to carpool would be good. Galway has the same problem and if you look at the jams 80% of the cars only have one person in them. It's madness really when you think about it and I'm guilty of it too.

When I drove up when I moved here I was in Galway city around 5 am on a weekday and it was manic even then.

As for one in the car? Add four cats and a dog

andekwarhola

RayM wrote: »

Build large park & ride facilities along all major routes into Dublin. And then introduce congestion charges.

You might need a better public transport network to cope with this.

wakka12

Whats more ridiculous than that suggestion is calling dublin a major city:pac:

Rumpy Pumpy

I'd imagine that a lot of people in Dublin are both car and bike users. Mild levels of annoyance based on which mode of transport you are using. Comes with living in a city.

The types that get extremely angry about this type of stuff always strike me as car owners who drive sh1tty saloons with a dashcam installed. Often seen waxing their 'motor' in the driveway of a bland semi-d on a Saturday afternoon. Or bicycle owners who realise they will never be good enough for, or good enough at, golf, and so pour all their money into expensive bikes and Lycra that make very little difference to how unfit they are. Physically, mentally and spiritually.

antodeco

30 minutes for me to drive to work, or 2 hours 15 minutes using public transport!

SuperTortoise

Until a better, faster, cheaper alternative is provided then people will use their car, simple as that.

D0NNELLY

Ban schools. Then people wouldn't be all trying to get to work at the same time after dropping their kids off.

No rush hour during the school holidays.

doolox

If the authorities introduced a congestion toll of about €3.00 for any car going inside that zone from 8 am to 11am and 4 pm to 6pm and improved the public transport links enormously with car parks on the periphery just outside the canals. The traffic authorities would have to allow for hotel guests cars and people buying heavy goods inside the zone and for residents inside the zone.

The present crazy arrangements cannot continue indefinitely.

Beyondgone

Working 7.45am to 7pm.. because they banned the other option.. rush hour now transferred to 6am and 7.30pm.. going into work at 9am and home at 5 because it is "quieter" but more expensive.. People have to go to work. Oddly, many do so at the same time.

CaptainR

I'm biased to a degree because I ride one but their should be a policy of promoting motorcycling within major urban areas to decrease the number of cars on the roads. They have the benefits of bicycles with regard to filtering while also having the speed of a car.

This idea that there's either a car, bicycle or public transport as the only way into the city shows how little they're thought of as a viable means of transportation. There was a time not long ago when people scoffed at the idea of cycling to work before the cycle to work scheme was launched.

monkeysnapper

Move to the country.


Eat a lot of peaches ....

mikeoneilly

I'm seeing too many bicycles lately with only 1 driver

Beyondgone

mikeoneilly wrote: »

I'm seeing too many bicycles lately with only 1 driver

There ought to be Unicycle lanes. Much more environmentally efficient - less tyres, less space. And they could be skinny..like a thin painted line. Cyclists could upskill.

OldMrBrennan83

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Jack the Stripper

Do a cull on the population in Dublin and ship them to Cavan.

RayM

andekwarhola wrote: »

You might need a better public transport network to cope with this.

At the very least, you'd need dedicated bus routes that go directly from the park & ride facilities to the city centre, stopping only to let people off along the way.

Richard Hillman

Buses are the biggest problem to Dublin's congestion. It doesn't help when there is a bus stop every 100-200 meters.

The bus Lanes in the city centre should be replaced by light rail, with buses servicing outside the city centre.

Jack the Stripper

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Buses are the biggest problem to Dublin's congestion. It doesn't help when there is a bus stop every 100-200 meters.

Get rid of some bus stops, if some one can't walk 500 metres they should stay at home.

Arcade_Tryer

Patww79 wrote: »

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That's the idea. People should have to pay more for that privilege.

Yourself isit

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

I'd imagine that a lot of people in Dublin are both car and bike users. Mild levels of annoyance based on which mode of transport you are using. Comes with living in a city.

The types that get extremely angry about this type of stuff always strike me as car owners who drive sh1tty saloons with a dashcam installed. Often seen waxing their 'motor' in the driveway of a bland semi-d on a Saturday afternoon. Or bicycle owners who realise they will never be good enough for, or good enough at, golf, and so pour all their money into expensive bikes and Lycra that make very little difference to how unfit they are. Physically, mentally and spiritually.

Jesus, you hate everybody.

Yourself isit

CaptainR wrote: »

I'm biased to a degree because I ride one but their should be a policy of promoting motorcycling within major urban areas to decrease the number of cars on the roads. They have the benefits of bicycles with regard to filtering while also having the speed of a car.

This idea that there's either a car, bicycle or public transport as the only way into the city shows how little they're thought of as a viable means of transportation. There was a time not long ago when people scoffed at the idea of cycling to work before the cycle to work scheme was launched.

Not a bad idea. Scooters.

Zebra3

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Buses are the biggest problem to Dublin's congestion.

Completely and utterly untrue.

By far the most crucial part of transporting the citizens of Dublin around.

stockdam

Too many traffic lights in Dublin.
The roads leading off the M50 don't get cars away quickly enough and so queues build up. The M50 should have more lanes or an Express Lane that only allows cars to leave or come on at a couple of exits.
Dublin needs an underground.
The cycle to work scheme on trains only allows bicycles on between  9:30 – 16:00 and after 19:00....what good is that?

Ubbquittious

Yourself isit wrote: »

Not a bad idea. Scooters.

Great until some chungwan gets a slight scrape off a handlebar from one while crossing the road and looking at her phone at the same time, resulting in a €45,000 insurance payout and a resounding "SCOOTERS ARE EVIL" cry by the media, the courts and Insurance Ireland who will make a Honda 50 cost about 3 grand to insure.

There is no easy way around it. Dublin will always be a congested hellhole no matter what some politician thinks of to solve the problem. The only real solution is to ban Dublin

Remove all the people, put up a big fence around it with biohazard signs, fill Dublin bay with mines and watch it become our version of Pripyat

K.Flyer

Car-pooling would probably work and be more of an incentive if they allowed said cars use the bus lanes as well. My brother in law in San Francisco car pools a few days of the week. As long as there are two or more people in the car they can use the HOV lane, (effectively a bus lane), and it cuts a huge chunk of time off his journey.

Turpentine

Zebra3 wrote: »

Completely and utterly untrue.

By far the most crucial part of transporting the citizens of Dublin around.

Maybe not the buses themselves, but the positioning of bus-stops can be a problem.

An example that springs to mind is the one outside Tesco at Leonard's Corner. No car can drive around them because there's usually not enough space, tends to cause a tailback from both the South Circular Road (City-bound) and from Harold's Cross.

Graces7

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

Get rid of some bus stops, if some one can't walk 500 metres they should stay at home.

Discrimination against older and disableds.. I mean it!