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How come CAB never go after travellers?

  • 12-03-2017 12:18am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭


    We always hear of the criminal assets bureau hunting down drug criminals and the likes but never travellers who flaunt their wealth without a care in the world?
    No job no tax being paid but yet big houses and new vans/jeeps and cab dont care? Am i missing something here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    We always hear of the criminal assets bureau hunting down drug criminals and the likes but never travellers who flaunt their wealth without a care in the world?
    No job no tax being paid but yet big houses and new vans/jeeps and cab dont care? Am i missing something here?
    They are too small scale


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    They are too small scale

    I am guessing you are probably right.

    Buying 80,000 euro jeeps and big houses with cash is big enough to warrant a visit from cab surely??? I cant put 3,000 euro into the credit union without being asked where it came from.


  • Site Banned Posts: 129 ✭✭nosilver


    They do, big raid on 11 properties in Rathkeale at Christmas, others in 2015, 2012, 2010, 2009

    And that's just first page of google.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    We all know why.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    I suppose its to do with our pc culture of trying to not offend their sensibilities, and now that they have earned ethnic status, which is ridiculous i must add, they can now scream racism.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600


    Mutant z wrote: »
    I suppose its to do with our pc culture of trying to not offend their sensibilities, and now that they have earned ethnic status, which is ridiculous i must add, they can now scream racism.

    I agree that the ethnic status thing is a joke, but the claim that the CAB don't 'go after' Travellers has already been disproven, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    I agree that the ethnic status thing is a joke, but the claim that the CAB don't 'go after' Travellers has already been disproven, no?

    Maybe they do on a small scale but i have never seen evidence in my area of it in the 28 and half years of my life. I pass houses fit for kings on the way to and from work as they collect their dole in porsche cayennes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Ferrari3600


    Maybe they do on a small scale but i have never seen evidence in my area of it in the 28 and half years of my life. I pass houses fit for kings on the way to and from work as they collect their dole in porsche cayennes?

    I'd well believe you. I would guess they are clever at outwitting 'the system' but who knows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    By all accounts,they get means tested social welfare payments without being means tested by inspectors if address is c/o halting site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    fepper wrote: »
    By all accounts,they get means tested social welfare payments without being means tested by inspectors if address is c/o halting site

    Means testing is a joke. They look at 1 bank account statement (you could have many accounts), and you tell them what is the legit income of the people you live with.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Mods are going to close this 😀

    You can't ask that question OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,737 ✭✭✭zimmermania


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Mods are going to close this 😀

    You can't ask that question OP
    They do go after them but mostly without much success,they" live" wherever it is advantageous to live and when the revenue boys come knocking they are told "he is down in the north".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Hoffmans


    Gypsey would be more PC I suppose, since they have their own series on tv3 etc...

    I'm sure most of the big cash rich gypsies are non resident for tax purposes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Maybe it's because travellers aren't criminals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Maybe it's because travellers aren't criminals.

    Dream on:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    Ask the ESB!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Maybe it's because travellers aren't criminals.

    You must live a very sheltered life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Mods are going to close this 😀

    You can't ask that question OP

    Pretty sure you can ask the question. Inconveniently for those who wish to believe that Travellers are somehow immune from the Criminal Assets Bureau, the question has been answered and shown to be invalid.

    And if the thread gets locked, it'll be because some people are incapable of talking about the Travelling community without making racist generalisations about them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    I am guessing you are probably right.

    Buying 80,000 euro jeeps and big houses with cash is big enough to warrant a visit from cab surely??? I cant put 3,000 euro into the credit union without being asked where it came from.

    With a name like yours I'm not surprised!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    CAB has been targeting Traveller criminals with some success notably the Rathkeale(Rhino horn) mob and previously, "Fat" Andy Connors, the leader of the country's most prolific gang of armed robbers who was subsequently shot dead by a rival faction.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    MadDog76 wrote: »
    With a name like yours I'm not surprised!!!

    Well played ya mad dog ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    OP you're racist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Rathkeale co limerick there are drive around brand new English 2017 reg porsche cars bentleys cars rolls royce cars mercedes cars range rovers jeeps the lot the are super Wealthy rich people money the cars there at xmas you would not see the likes of it any where in europe I have been there a few times the graveyard in Rathkeale co limerick the headstones the must have cost up to 100000 euros each and more why do all the rich travellers go there what is the story is the holy land for them i would love to know now get back to paying tax why would the want to that and give there hard cash to the likes of TD Willie o Dea , TD Joan burton TD Michael Lowry,TD Bertie Ahern etc why would you want give your money to them because if the did the would be like most people of Ireland broke there sticking there two fingers up the government and I say well done boys .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    Rathkeale co limerick there are drive around brand new English 2017 reg porsche cars bentleys cars rolls royce cars mercedes cars range rovers jeeps the lot the are super Wealthy rich people money the cars there at xmas you would not see the likes of it any where in europe I have been there a few times the graveyard in Rathkeale co limerick the headstones the must have cost up to 100000 euros each and more why do all the rich travellers go there what is the story is the holy land for them i would love to know now get back to paying tax why would the want to that and give there hard cash to the likes of TD Willie o Dea , TD Joan burton TD Michael Lowry,TD Bertie Ahern etc why would you want give your money to them because if the did the would be like most people of Ireland broke there sticking there two fingers up the government and I say well done boys .


    I feel out of breath after reading that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    We always hear of the criminal assets bureau hunting down drug criminals and the likes but never travellers who flaunt their wealth without a care in the world?
    No job no tax being paid but yet big houses and new vans/jeeps and cab dont care? Am i missing something here?

    No your not missing something. Always gotta be chasing and taking down them hard working middle class folk. Keep them on their toes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    In before the lock on ethnic profiling grounds.

    It's their culture to drive untaxed, uninsured and cash paid jeeps OP.

    I mean come on now - you'd almost think their children were suffering something terrible like an abnormal instance of sudden infant deaths and no education. They have more important things to do. BE RESPECTFUL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Rathkeale co limerick there are drive around brand new English 2017 reg porsche cars bentleys cars rolls royce cars mercedes cars range rovers jeeps the lot the are super Wealthy rich people money the cars there at xmas you would not see the likes of it any where in europe I have been there a few times the graveyard in Rathkeale co limerick the headstones the must have cost up to 100000 euros each and more why do all the rich travellers go there what is the story is the holy land for them i would love to know now get back to paying tax why would the want to that and give there hard cash to the likes of TD Willie o Dea , TD Joan burton TD Michael Lowry,TD Bertie Ahern etc why would you want give your money to them because if the did the would be like most people of Ireland broke there sticking there two fingers up the government and I say well done boys .

    You just indiscriminately shat out the words, didn't you?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How come CAB don't go after Nigerians?

    Some of them pull money scams, so racial profiling should be allowed for black people and Africans.

    How come they don't round up the Irish in the UK? Everyone know we're just drunker brawlers who fiddle benefits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    I know of 1 case from the early 2000s when CAB seized €1.5 million from three Travellers.
    I had the unfortunate case of actually knowing them, and they were from the southwest. I got a warning for telling this story on a different forum on boards before, as it was called Traveller bashing, even when though it actually happened.
    Many years ago when I was more naive, much younger and far less cynical, I let my good heart give these three guys a chance. I gave them some work to fix and replace some shutes on the house. Price agreed, job was done, then they wanted several times the agreed price, became threatening and intimidating, this was a time before I had a mobile phone. I gave them a small bit over the agreed price to get rid of them as they did not want to leave, told them I would have the rest in a few days. A couple of days later they rang looking for the money, I told them they were not getting anymore. They said they would return and remove the materials, I said 'fine, go ahead, but I will have the Gardai here watching you stealing from me'. I was then told 'go into Kilkenny and hang yourself off John's bridge', he then immediately hung up after saying that. They were not nice people...
    Valuable lesson learned, enjoyed being told to kill myself as I knew it was then saying 'They would not be back' which they weren't, but a couple of years later, I was bringing the Sunday paper home to my elderly neighbour, had a read before giving it to her, and here I see the three had assets seized by CAB, one had €600k, the other €500k and the 3rd €400k worth of assets seized.
    I was delighted for them, I knew they got some form of justice.
    So CAB do seize assets from Travellers, as they would from the settled community.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    So the OP has their answer. They do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    A very distinct aroma of deja vu and Irish begrudgery in the air... YYYYYYAAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN!i

    MYOB...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    How come CAB don't go after Nigerians?

    Some of them pull money scams, so racial profiling should be allowed for black people and Africans.

    How come they don't round up the Irish in the UK? Everyone know we're just drunker brawlers who fiddle benefits.

    OH come off it. Who would you rather living beside you ? a bunch of nigerians or
    a pack pf pikeys ? I'm guessing it wouldn't be the latter.

    Lets be honest here, the majority of travellers contribute nothing good to society, all they do is bleed the state dry and commit crime and get away with it, while you the average joe pay for it. If that was you or me do you'd think we'd get away it ? Not a ****ing chance

    I don't care if i get a ban, but the fooking lot off them should be wiped off the face of this earth!

    Mod: banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    I don't know about CAB but I know the Garda, along with Revenue, raided Labre park near Ballyfermot about three weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Nomadic Crime Gangs is the Politically Correct term.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Nomadic Crime Gangs is the Politically Correct term.

    I don't think it is.

    I think you made that up to make what to you seemed like a clever/funny point.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I know of 1 case from the early 2000s when CAB seized €1.5 million from three Travellers.
    I had the unfortunate case of actually knowing them, and they were from the southwest. I got a warning for telling this story on a different forum on boards before, as it was called Traveller bashing, even when though it actually happened.
    Many years ago when I was more naive, much younger and far less cynical, I let my good heart give these three guys a chance. I gave them some work to fix and replace some shutes on the house. Price agreed, job was done, then they wanted several times the agreed price, became threatening and intimidating, this was a time before I had a mobile phone. I gave them a small bit over the agreed price to get rid of them as they did not want to leave, told them I would have the rest in a few days. A couple of days later they rang looking for the money, I told them they were not getting anymore. They said they would return and remove the materials, I said 'fine, go ahead, but I will have the Gardai here watching you stealing from me'. I was then told 'go into Kilkenny and hang yourself off John's bridge', he then immediately hung up after saying that. They were not nice people...
    Valuable lesson learned, enjoyed being told to kill myself as I knew it was then saying 'They would not be back' which they weren't, but a couple of years later, I was bringing the Sunday paper home to my elderly neighbour, had a read before giving it to her, and here I see the three had assets seized by CAB, one had €600k, the other €500k and the 3rd €400k worth of assets seized.
    I was delighted for them, I knew they got some form of justice.
    So CAB do seize assets from Travellers, as they would from the settled community.

    That's disgraceful :mad:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Rathkeale co limerick there are drive around brand new English 2017 reg porsche cars bentleys cars rolls royce cars mercedes cars range rovers jeeps the lot the are super Wealthy rich people money the cars there at xmas you would not see the likes of it any where in europe I have been there a few times the graveyard in Rathkeale co limerick the headstones the must have cost up to 100000 euros each and more why do all the rich travellers go there what is the story is the holy land for them i would love to know now get back to paying tax why would the want to that and give there hard cash to the likes of TD Willie o Dea , TD Joan burton TD Michael Lowry,TD Bertie Ahern etc why would you want give your money to them because if the did the would be like most people of Ireland broke there sticking there two fingers up the government and I say well done boys .

    Did the CAB seize all you full stops and paragraphs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    Did the CAB seize all you full stops and paragraphs?

    Have a free "r" on me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    That's disgraceful :mad:
    Giving her a secondhand newspaper. Have you no shame?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Graces7 wrote: »

    No, no they're not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    So in summary, they do go after travellers just like they go after everyone else. Travellers are overrepresented when it comes to crime but for all the same reasons that black people are overrepresented in crime in the US. A lot of you would be burning crosses and dressing up in white sheets at the weekend if you lived there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So in summary, they do go after travellers just like they go after everyone else. Travellers are overrepresented when it comes to crime but for all the same reasons that black people are overrepresented in crime in the US. A lot of you would be burning crosses and dressing up in white sheets at the weekend if you lived there.

    I always enjoy the irony.

    Their hatred is based on ignorance and prejudice. When they point to crime stats, education, violence, addiction etc. it's only an excuse for bigotry. However, when we do, oh it's because we know what our targets are really like...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Travellers are like south africans in the 90s or Israelis now. Fair game. Liberals can take all the hatred out on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Graces7 wrote: »
    A very distinct aroma of deja vu and Irish begrudgery in the air... YYYYYYAAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN!i

    MYOB...

    How is it begrudgery to ask why someone can own palatial houses and drive expensive cars on €188 a week?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,904 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Revenue and the Social Welfare Dept should be more proactive in finding out who among them has money and make them pay their share.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    How come CAB don't go after Nigerians?

    Some of them pull money scams, so racial profiling should be allowed for black people and Africans.

    How come they don't round up the Irish in the UK? Everyone know we're just drunker brawlers who fiddle benefits.

    tbh I have had that thought about the nigerians myself , I can only guess that the bulk of the money is shipped out of the country so there isn't much left to seize - same as eastern european criminals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,308 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    I see the PC-brigade morons have woken up and already started to get a grip on this thread. Now all genuine debate will be lost behind the calls of racism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Quazzie wrote: »
    I see the PC-brigade morons have woken up and already started to get a grip on this thread. Now all genuine debate will be lost behind the calls of racism.

    Or behind calling people who disagree with you 'morons'. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    Rathkeale co limerick there are drive around brand new English 2017 reg porsche cars bentleys cars rolls royce cars mercedes cars range rovers jeeps the lot the are super Wealthy rich people money the cars there at xmas you would not see the likes of it any where in europe I have been there a few times the graveyard in Rathkeale co limerick the headstones the must have cost up to 100000 euros each and more why do all the rich travellers go there what is the story is the holy land for them i would love to know now get back to paying tax why would the want to that and give there hard cash to the likes of TD Willie o Dea , TD Joan burton TD Michael Lowry,TD Bertie Ahern etc why would you want give your money to them because if the did the would be like most people of Ireland broke there sticking there two fingers up the government and I say well done boys .

    And breathe!


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