Is anybody even arsed with TWD anymore?

Keplar240B

I used to really like it. Its declined a bit since season 4


Some things gone wrong 5-7


Fear the walking dead spinoff show, a massive mistake by AMC they have diluted their product/efforts and overstimulated the zombie franchise market.

It was this point(NEGAN intro) The source materiel also got stale and dragged out, They should have learnt lessons from comic and wrapped Negan up in one season it looks like we are getting two.

The ASZ residents was portrayed as too stupid and sheltered.

Endless mopery and too much mental health, depression, grief focus.

The destruction of Morgans character only saved somewhat by the fact that he is excellent actor

Carol arc from meek battered house wife to ruthless fighter was brilliant
then they took it to far and turned her into Robocop.

The death fake-outs cliffhanger big and small especially in season 6 there where several of them.

Red shirt Characters dying utterly stupid deaths usually by stealth zombie, huge issue in season 6.
remember the guy that got bit by a zombie stuck in a tree(happened twice)
Or just the last episode when Gregory nearly got killed by a stealth zombie, its up-surd.


two many groups , Oceanside and garbage dump really necessary?
The Oceanside group is interesting and seems like a real group, The dump people are crap.

Complete abandonment of real world physics. this started in season 4. things are being including in the show that simply cannot happen, things which they never would have put in previous seasons. The earlier seasons where much more grounded.

Zombie special effects showcasing now dominate the show , entire episodes seem to be built around the effect they made, in it a new effect is added every episode sewer, mud, buried, water, fire, whatever . Some of its very good. Some of it forced and boring , Its like
(a)I have an idea Sewer zombies
(b) Ok now write a way to get the characters down a sewer for some reason


the saviours death toll , saviours where being killed like flies in season 6 completing destroying the storyline.

the wolves made no sense why did they not have ANY weapons although the two wolves we met where great characters

The tiger and the kingdom and some other stuff from source material has not translated well to the screen,

And last but not least the ratio of epic and good episodes to filler and slow boring ones has increased bigly.

sonofenoch

Just caught up with the latest episode, to be honest I nearly fell asleep


I've come to the conclusion this show should have been wrapped up in 5 or 6 series to go down as an all time classic.....as is they're dragging it out so much it's turning into 'The Grisly Waltons'

Lone Stone

I really hope they either bring the show to an end next season and give us a pay off for all these years of watching, or at least set up the final season because right now they really are just repeating the same thing over and over.

Mr.Nice Guy

Lone Stone wrote: »

I really hope they either bring the show to an end next season and give us a pay off for all these years of watching, or at least set up the final season because right now they really are just repeating the same thing over and over.

I think at this point they are just dragging it out for the cash. A bit like The Simpsons which got terrible after the 90s.

Wibbs

Lats week I binge watched the first two series and it really illustrated for me how drawn out and slow it is now and has been for a while. It was far better paced in the early days. If now was then the last series would have pretty much wrapped the Negan arc up by now. Maybe it's a problem with the comic source material? If so they should go off script. Also noticed that early on the zombies were more active, more "aware" and more threatening, even using rocks to break through glass.

Hank Scorpio

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I think at this point they are just dragging it out for the cash. A bit like The Simpsons which got terrible after the 90s.

Terrible being an understatement.

Banjaxed82

They should put some zombies in the show.

Greyjoy

S6 had started to test my patience with the show but I think S7 has convinced me I'm done with it. This video sums up how I feel about the show now. One of his main points is that too much of the show's story now hinges around the 'big event' of either the midseason or season finale so there's nothing of consequence outside of that.

(spoilers for the comic storyline in vid)

harr

Really liked series 1 ....two was ok,3 I enjoyed and I gave it up in series 4 ...my wife still watching it so I get to see the odd episode..she really only watches it when nothing else on and because it's on series link. It has totally lost track of what the program was originally meant to be..in my opinion anyway.

razorblunt

I still can't get over THAT deer. What exactly were they thinking? Who suggested it? Who put it forward as a finished product? Who signed off on it? Why was it even needed?
They didn't need it, they could have used independent shots of a deer in the park, cut to Rick, cut to deer, deer through lens, Rick falls.

To top it off, the deer bolts, yet conveniently only ran 2 feet and stopped and was a handy decoy for the walkers to eat instead of Rick.

Also, fúck you Corallllll. That's an ongoing thing though.

Boom_Bap

It has become torture to watch this show, but like may others, I can't stop watching in the hope that it returns to form.
If they condensed all the bits from the most recent season into a 2 part episode, it would be great.
These long drawn out showdowns between rival factions where they outline everything they have done and plan to do is tedious. Even the twists in these show-downs are badly executed.
Even the loss of characters now doesn't really have an impact and its way too obvious that a character is getting iced when they are given an episode that focuses on them.

ScumLord

I never really got into this show as much as I wanted too, I was looking forward to a gritty zombie show with more realism but TWD disappointed throughout from the very beginning. It very much seems like it was written by people that don't really understand what real hardship is. The zombies were always flawed, soft enough that you could stick just about anything through their skulls but then somehow also strong enough to overpower people one on one.

The plot was forced misery all the time, in general the scenarios and characters never seemed plausible, I know it's based on a comic book but it failed at being serious and failed at being comic like were all these flaws could have been more acceptable.

I'm still waiting for a real zombie horror, TWD certainly isn't it, it's zombies by committee group meetings. As with most zombie films they just come up with cool sounding scenarios and wrap a plot around them.

sonofenoch

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

They should put some zombies in the show.

This....and give them some menace.......when the horde invaded the farm (in series 2 I think) that was edge of the seat tv, definitely left you coming back for more see wtf happens


but I'd guess they've gone past the point of no return with the zombies they've become so non threatening

cjmcork

I think I'm done with it - it now feels like being in a relationship where you both know it's not working anymore but neither have the energy to end it

at the season finale last year, I was up in the middle of the night to watch it - this year, I only watched it last night and can go days without watching the latest show, don't get me wrong - the shoot 'em up stuff in Sunday's show was top notch, but that's 2 minutes of an hour long show

I don't think I'll be watching when the new Season starts though

cartman555

haha it goes around in circles!

Testament1

At this stage Tarman would be a welcome addition to The Walking Dead!

https://youtu.be/wV1FKU9Oihw

InTheTrees

I binge watched the last four episodes of last season and when I got to the last one it looked like absolutely nothing has changed.

I dont need another season wallowing in the sadism of nagin. Enough already.

OneOfThem Stumbled

I didn't watch TWD for a long period. I suppose I'm not the biggest fan, mainly because some of the conceits relating to zombies make little sense in my mind

(don't have to eat or drink, don't bleed, are actually dead, instantly infect people when they bite but being covered in their gore doesn't count, automatically becoming a zombie when you die, and so on...)

But mainly the problem with the zombies (or "walkers") is that they just aren't much of a threat.

The show realised this (or its source comic strip did) and made the zombies merely a backdrop.

While the governor's watercolor township didn't make a jot of sense (I can see what they were going for, but the themes that they were trying to relate were shoehorned into a post-apocalyptic setting)... the Alexandria vs raider/Saviour plotline did inherently make sense.

Okay Alexandria itself is boring as ****, and doesn't stand two minutes' analysis (what do they eat, how are solar panels making that much energy, who mows the lawns, why do they have so much free time, why is their so much free space) nonetheless, the topic of the civilised communtiy vs raiders is great! It's a no-nonsense survival of the fittest bare-knuckle slug. What do you have to sacrifice in order to survive such an engagement? What do you do against a foe where nothing is off-limits?

But while a couple of the previous series had stand out episodes (such as when the Alexandirans were trying to shepherd the army of zombies away from the town, only for the town itself to be attacked whilst mostly undefended) by God did those series meander!

Want en episode talking about why Morgan doesn't like killing people? No? Tough luck, here you go. Want an episode with Carol talking about how she doesn't know herself any more? What about some details on Rick's love life? How are the teens of Alexandria doing? Is Eugene getting braver? How's Gabriel holding up? Is Denise feeling appreciated?

So much filler, so much time wasted. And now, after two major engagements between Rick's group and Negan we know why. Could the "Maggie is about to give birth, we need to get to the hospital on Hilltop" plot have just been a misfire? Judging by the last episode I guess not: the show writers don't know how to do those sort of set pieces. Seeing that the next season is about a war between Negan and Rick, I'm guessing that at best, it will be like the last episode. I'd almost welcome the snorefest of Alexandria domesticity over that.

InTheTrees

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

Seeing that the next season is about a war between Negan and Rick, I'm guessing that at best, it will be like the last episode. I'd almost welcome the snorefest of Alexandria domesticity over that.

One more scene of negan standing over a group of kneeling figures deciding who to beat to death and i'm out. They cant keep using that same scene over and over again. Its lazy.

I'm glad I binge watched last season in two sittings because it meant I could FF with impunity.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Just binge watched the first season again and it was excellent stuff precisely because nobody really has a clue whats going on and how to deal with the world falling apart.Thats what the show should be about and the problem is that in the last couple of seasons everyone is a little too comfortable in the new reality of society falling apart and able to deal with it, people aren't merely surviving they're actually living lives in a routine manner.Once the show gets to that point they should be looking to shake it out of it's comfort zone and end it.

Whats also noticeable is that the walkers were much stronger and faster back in the early days (which makes sense) and therefore more of a threat to deal with.

Up to the end of season 5 it's great stuff but what should have happened is that once they got to Alexandria have it collapse fairly soon (like the mid season finale of Season 6) and then from there on the characters are on the way to trying to find a cure in Washington and end the show. Season 6 and 7 could have been condensed into one season and then have season 7 as the finale with a big showdown in Washington where there is an attempt to kill off all the walkers once and for all.

There is too much soap opera type drama in it now.It worked well in Season 2 because the characters of the group were not fully fleshed out at that stage but no need to keep going over that sort of stuff over and over again the show is supposed to be an action/horror show.

I've just seen on Wikipedia that the producers are planning at least 12 seasons which is really taking the piss altogether.

Cartman78

Came very close to abandoning TWD this season - finally made it to the end last night....the finale may well be the last episode I ever watch.

The show has been labouring badly since Season 3 or 4 imho....no direction, motives, story arcs etc.....even Z Nation is better plotted at this stage.

I will admit to fast forwarding several segments of the last few episodes....I've lost interest really and only watched to the end for completions sake.

Actually started laughing when the tiger burst onto the scene .....TWD may have not jumped the shark but it has definitely jumped the tiger. Really lame deus ex machina.....handy too how the tiger knew to only attack the bad guys.

And JDM is the most miscast person ever in anything ever recorded....Danny Dyer would be more threatening.

Anyway, shame to see the show going down the toilet like this...was a huge fan at the start

GBX

I think when it returns, I might give it a watch but I definitely wont be prioritising it over other shows. If the first EP grabs me - I will chance it further. If not oh well. It was good while it lasted.

DeepBlue

So I've just caught up on the first three episodes of this season.
It really has become a chore to watch this show now. Does anyone at AMC look at the finished product and can they possibly be proud of it?
So much of the plot can only happen on TV. Ninja Rick sneaks up and silently take s out a Saviour when he'd have been easily seen and heard except for camera angles and sound design. That's just one example but I could be here all day listing others.
Groups of heavily armed factions face off against each other firing weapons..........and it's boring. Worse, it's tedious. These used to be the exciting parts of the show and now you'd like to fast forward through them.

TWD was never a masterpiece but it used to be watchable even when the standard of particular episodes varied. It really isn't watchable any more. And some AMC heads think they can get another ten years out of this show and various spin offs? Not at this rate.

Boom_Bap

I'm finding this season OK so far.....apart from the ridiculous gun fight that has gone on for 3 episodes

Gwynplaine

With an infinite amount of bullets.
Several of them had a clear shot at Negan, while he stood there rocking back and forth on his heels.
It really has become a chore watching this.

RobbingBandit

Never got into it at the start just can't be bothered now.

shaunr68

InTheTrees wrote: »

Its lazy.

Sums it up for me. Not just that scene but what the series has become.

From the first series I enjoyed the practical difficulties the survivors faced, how to forage for food and resources, find safety, build communities, trade, maintain law and order. As time goes by scavenged material deteriorates, fuel goes off, manufactured spare parts run out so you are forced into a transition to the pre-industrial age. Focus on retaining the knowledge for regbuilding civilisation. All these things represent thought provoking practical challenges in a post-apocalyptic scenario, a variaton on the brilliant 1970s BBC series "Survivors", only with zombies. Or so I thought.

Now its all about bloody Negan, oh how I hope they kill him off soon and move on. Unrealistic, I genuinely don't think anybody would follow someone so wicked and unpredictable. He'd have been bumped off. Of course there have been evil leaders in history but generally they unite the people and garner support by picking on a minority group to persecute or a common enemy to defeat.

I'm in two minds as to whether to continue watching. The missus has already thrown in the towel.

Scotty #

shaunr68 wrote: »

I'm in two minds as to whether to continue watching. The missus has already thrown in the towel.

I've thrown in the towel on E4 of S8 but the Mrs says she's going to stick it out.

What was a great series at one time is now just total drivel.

Fox Hound

I haven't watched the last 4 episodes, And I don't even miss it....I'm officially done, still reading the comic tho :-)

Danjamin1

I've tried to pick it back up on a few occasions but every time I see that Carol is still alive I lose faith & turn it off. I hate Carol. I also hate Morgan for that matter. Was much more interested in the comics but even they've lost me a bit lately.