Destiny: age of Triumph - Mod Note Linked in OP 11/04

Generic Dreadhead

Hi All,

Check this stuff out

https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/45708/7_The-Road-Ahead

Hey, everyone.

We’re planning to reveal the final live event for the Destiny 1 era next Wednesday. We’re calling it “Age of Triumph,” and we intend for it to be a fun and memorable celebration that will bring the first major chapter of our Destiny adventures to a fitting close. We’ll look back upon the three incredible years we’ve shared as a community, and look ahead to some final challenges and rewards that await you in the weeks ahead.

But first, we want to answer some important questions you’ve been asking about Destiny’s first full sequel.

Sequels represent the start of a new adventure for every player, with new worlds to explore, new stories to tell, new powers to acquire, new loot to earn, and much more. This led us to a decision that would enable us to serve both the game and the player’s best interests: Destiny 1 power, possessions, and Eververse-related items and currency will not carry forward. They will, however, remain accessible to you in Destiny 1.

We know that, just like us, you have grown fond of the Guardians you’ve created, so we do plan to preserve your character personalization. We are going to recognize the dedication and passion you’ve shown for this world. Specifically, the class, race, gender, face, hair, and marking selections for all characters that have achieved Level 20 and completed the Black Garden story mission will carry forward. We also plan to award those veteran accounts with honors that reflect your Destiny 1 accomplishments.

We believe this is the best path forward. It allows us to introduce the major advancements and improvements that all of us expect from a sequel, ensuring it will be the best game we can create, unencumbered by the past. We’re looking forward to sharing more details with you later this year for how we will honor your legacy in the future.

Before we do that, we’re going to deliver “Age of Triumph” at the end of March. To show you what it’s all about, we’re planning a series of livestream showcases. We’ll be reintroducing you to some members of the Live Team, and they’ll be showing you the content and activity updates that they’ve been working on. The dates and times are listed below.

We kick things off next week.

Age of Triumph
Reveal
Wednesday, March 8th

Age of Triumph
Weekly Rituals
Wednesday, March 15th

Age of Triumph
Sandbox Update
Wednesday, March 22nd

MOD NOTE: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103188489&postcount=282

Josey Wales

I might have to get some of you guys to help me complete the last two Raids. I've gotten to the final boss in both a few times but never successfully managed to beat them. I don't want to miss out on whatever tokens they give veteran players.

dudeeile

I'd say it's just a last chance for people to earn some cosmetics for Destiny 2. You didn't get your Year 1 Moments of Triumph, here ya go, have another chance sort of thing.

I'm all for it if gets people doing some old raids but unless there is some updated loot then there's really no need for most of us.

I'd also hope they realise they're making a mistake by not letting people carry over eververse purchases, bit cheap on their part.

AbusesToilets

I do need to give the Crux another go. ****er still hasn't dropped. I wouldn't mind getting some of the VoG gear for the Warlock and Titan either. I hope Bungie can allow you to have a kiosk for different Armor/ Weapons sets in D2. My vault is full of IB gear, VoG gear etc.

PetKing

All sounds interesting and I'm all for it! Whether this means updating the road to current light levels or not, I'm not sure though.

Mitch Connor

Teaser video up on bungie for this - vault of glass features mostly and fatebringer is shown, but without the blue/arc hue to it, so looks like it is back but elemental damage removed - a little disappointing imo.

AbusesToilets

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Teaser video up on bungie for this - vault of glass features mostly and fatebringer is shown, but without the blue/arc hue to it, so looks like it is back but elemental damage removed - a little disappointing imo.

What's the ****ing point so? Dumb on their part.

PetKing

AbusesToilets wrote:

What's the ****ing point so? Dumb on their part.

Was arc damage everything that made Fatebringer good in your opinion?

Mitch Connor

I'd have liked to see the primaries return with the elementary damage, simply cause it would make them a bit more fun. I hope they do something to spice them up in their absence - such as bonus damage to vex targets.

Riesen_Meal

So is this basically going to just give out higher level gear for the existing other raids in the lead up to Destiny 2?

I doubt there will be any more light level raised

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvggkQs3N8I

AbusesToilets

PetKing wrote: »

Was arc damage everything that made Fatebringer good in your opinion?

Personally, I didn't get it til almost the end of Yr.1, so it wasn't a big deal for me. There are plenty of guns in that archetype available now, that can roll Firefly. So if it's not Arc, what is the point, beyond nostalgia?

Mitch Connor

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Personally, I didn't get it til almost the end of Yr.1, so it wasn't a big deal for me. There are plenty of guns in that archetype available now, that can roll Firefly. So if it's not Arc, what is the point, beyond nostalgia?

I hope they add some different unique perk to it, in the same vein as the raid weapon perks in wrath of the machine.

Give the vog stuff extra vex damage, crota stiff extra hive damage. Something like that.

AbusesToilets

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I hope they add some different unique perk to it, in the same vein as the raid weapon perks in wrath of the machine.

Give the vog stuff extra vex damage, crota stiff extra hive damage. Something like that.

Don't they already have that for some of them? Could've sworn they do.

Mitch Connor

Fatebringer and Vision of Confluence (the only two VoG guns I have left in my vault) have increased oracle damage. Fang of Ir Yut has increased damage vs Hive Majors. I think a more generalised damage improvement would be reasonable if elemental damage is taken away.

Stone Deaf 4evr

I've been on a nice break from destiny, hoping they're giving all activities the chance to drop high end gear. I'm feeling like I'm ready to start jumping back in.

Generic Dreadhead

The Record book has 13 pages from a screengrab of the teaser, so that's up to 104 activites

AbusesToilets

****ing 'ell, that'll keep folks busy. Hoping going flawless is one of them, just to rub some salt in the wound.

wexdevil

AbusesToilets wrote: »

****ing 'ell, that'll keep folks busy. Hoping going flawless is one of them, just to rub some salt in the wound.

If it does I'm not looking forward to all the people complaining on the forums about it.


I have no intention of playing ToO so that wont be a node that I'll ever be completing(if there is more than one for trials then I wont be doing those either.

Generic Dreadhead

Making Flawless a requirement would be like dropping a tanker of petrol on a tyre fire

Mitch Connor

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Making Flawless a requirement would be like dropping a tanker of petrol on a tyre fire

Yes, but maybe no.

A big problem with trials (beyond the special economy) is the player numbers. People playing trials are generally people who have a good chance of going flawless or getting close to it.

If it was a requirement to go flawless there is the possibility that it encourages a load of people to give it a go. The more people playing it the more chance you have of playing someone at your level or below - which makes trials a more enjoyable experience anyway.

Generic Dreadhead

If they player pool was diluted, sure even poor players might be able to go 5-0, 9-0 is a different matter.

Nobody would think that was a good idea to be made a requirement.

What about players in Australia etc? Where player populations are even smaller?

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Mitch Connor

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

If they player pool was diluted, sure even poor players might be able to go 5-0, 9-0 is a different matter.

Nobody would think that was a good idea to be made a requirement.

What about players in Australia etc? Where player populations are even smaller?

Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

I don't want to see flawless a requirement, but I can see playing trials being a requirement - as it was with the last book.

A currently diluted population is more difficult for trials because a higher proportion of the people playing trials are trials players. Flawless in year 2 was easier because you had a better chance of coming up agaisnt more casual teams.

Generic Dreadhead

I would have no doubt there will be some sort of "Participation" aspect in Trials alright. Even the ROI book had you play 5 matches afaik

Mitch Connor

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

I would have no doubt there will be some sort of "Participation" aspect in Trials alright. Even the ROI book had you play 5 matches afaik

which I still haven't got done.

If you made flawless trials a requirement it would turn into a farce I imagine - paid carries everywhere, people giving away free wins everywhere, people trying to cheat where they can etc. etc.

Flawless raider would be interesting (mainly because I've not done it so it would increase the population of people willing to try with me!).

wexdevil

AdamD wrote: »

Flawless raider would be interesting (mainly because I've not done it so it would increase the population of people willing to try with me!).

I'd honestly be very surprised it that is one of the triumphs, though it might actually get me to try and finally get it!

SolvableKnave

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

I would have no doubt there will be some sort of "Participation" aspect in Trials alright. Even the ROI book had you play 5 matches afaik

Requirement was for 5 Trials Cards.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

which I still haven't got done.

I'm one card away from that node.

nevelator

I don't care what they add to the book, as long as it doesn't include getting the siva yoke from the top of the mountain.

dudeeile

nevelator wrote: »

I don't care what they add to the book, as long as it doesn't include getting the siva yoke from the top of the mountain.

I went and got that last week, I had a youtube video beside me and about an hour to kill. Got it done in under 30mins. so it's not really that bad when you set your mind to it, I had only given halfarsed attempts before.

AbusesToilets

I hope they make a change in D2 for how they organise the Trials equivalent. Perhaps an ELO based bracket system, similar to Overwatch etc. Have multi-flawless players less likely to come up against neverbeens, after going to the lighthouse already in a given week at least.

OptimusTractor

AbusesToilets wrote: »

****ing 'ell, that'll keep folks busy. Hoping going flawless is one of them, just to rub some salt in the wound.

Necrocasm is good for removing salt. Spare Crux also double as energy efficient light bulbs.

Mitch Connor

So what are the predictions for tonight/Age of Triumphs?

I reckon all raids brought up to current light level, with most of the original drops brought up - I think elemental burn will be gone off primaries (based on Fatebringer clip in the tease). I don't think Black Spindle will drop in Crota at all.

I think it will be current light level rather than an increase - or any increase will be small. Reason I say that is I think the goal is to get you to replay the old raids and a significant light level increase would create a barrier between you and immediate access to the 'new' raid levels. However, thinking about this on the fly..... if all Raids are brought forward and all can be completed each week it would mean we have 5 Raids, Nightfall, Crucible all capable of giving significant light level drops every week (4 more raids/end game than we currently have) which would increase the speed at which you could level up. I dunno - still thinking no new LL.

I think the Raids will run on a weekly rota in terms of the record book/rituals - ie we complete VoG this week, Crota next week, Kings Fall/Prison of Elders the week after etc. There might be some change the mechanics of each raid on their given week (not sure what they could do) as I think completing these as part of a ritual will grant a special armor set (like the RoI book did) - the Hunter armor in the reveal pic as an example.

AbusesToilets

I'll be interested to see if the updated Raid weapons have any impact on the PvP meta. Sadly, given that the Vex remains ****ed, my dreams of auto rampages are likely to go unrealised. VoC will definitely get some love though.

PetKing

AbusesToilets wrote:

I'll be interested to see if the updated Raid weapons have any impact on the PvP meta. Sadly, given that the Vex remains ****ed, my dreams of auto rampages are likely to go unrealised. VoC will definitely get some love though.

I watched a video last night of Kruzer playing Trials this week with the Vex. He was doing 23 critical head damage, he couldn't kill anyone. They had to team shot and hope for the best!

nevelator

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I'll be interested to see if the updated Raid weapons have any impact on the PvP meta. Sadly, given that the Vex remains ****ed, my dreams of auto rampages are likely to go unrealised. VoC will definitely get some love though.

Don't think that there will be much change tbh. In standard crucible (no LL weighting) you hardly ever come across someone using them.

None of the raid weapons were ever strong in Crucible, with the exception of the Vex which was nerfed a million times.

Mitch Connor

nevelator wrote: »

Don't think that there will be much change tbh. In standard crucible (no LL weighting) you hardly ever come across someone using them.

in fairness I would say a majority of people would use light level appropriate stuff in the game most of the time.

I don't know if the archetypes are viable though. I remember Word of Crota being poor in PvP anyway. Fatebringer as it is has a low base range and no real perk help on that so unless they change up the perk/stat of Fatebringer it won't make an impact on PvP. I've heard Preatorian Foil is a cracking PvP fusion rifle. I think the raid pulses should be good though, I think they are fast rate of fire types.

Generic Dreadhead

VoC was decent enough in Crucible around 2014.
I have used Pradethdys Timepiece to good effect before also in PvP when LL doesn't matter

SolvableKnave

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

VoC was decent enough in Crucible around 2014.
I have used Pradethdys Timepiece to good effect before also in PvP when LL doesn't matter

They where useable, but never meta. I used Atheons Epilouge for the Thorn void kills. Same archetype as Doctor Passion, but wasn't as stable. Useable, but no replacement.

Generic Dreadhead

They were never "Meta" cause Trials didn't exist back then, so there was no "Can't use this cause LL is too low" and the fact PvP wasn't as sweaty an experience overall.

In 2014 it was just a load of people playing Control and Clash with Auto Rifles

There was an IB meta. Which was Suros til you finished the AR headshot bounty then switch to one of the 3 HCs if you realised how good they were, or stay with Suros if you didn't. Scouts and Pulses were pretty much non existent and ARs were limited to high impact ones.

SolvableKnave

There was still a mini-meta though. OG Suros. OG Thorn. OG TLW. OG Mida.

Generic Dreadhead

There were Good Guns that were ridiculously hard to attain. Exotics were hard to come by. We unless you had the coin to go ahead and buy the Suros in week 3 or whatever

AbusesToilets

Back in my day, this was all fields...

Or Vexs, whichevs

syboit

I'm actually not sure what I want from "age of Triumph". I'd rather not see the old raids brought upto 400light level, or even an increase in light level at all. I'd rather see challenges in the old raids, have to complete them wearing the armour set or a weekly challenge. There was a mention on reddit that there was a 2nd vault of glass set once upon a time so maybe thats finally coming out.

I know destiny "1" is coming to an end, but I still can't bring myself to delete my titan armour sets. Only yesterday finally got the missing piece of the lantern set.

I really hoped they let us xbox players have the exclusive ps4 stuff now, one last piece of collecting before we move on.

PetKing

Crap! Forgot about the stream!!

Mitch Connor

No new light level - the old raids are at 390. So I was right on no LL increase.

PetKing

Rumble for the crucible book... Shudder!!

PetKing

Damn the collections!!!

Mitch Connor

interestingly Deej mentioned they will discuss how Elemental Primaries (raid weapons) will effect the sandbox in two weeks - indicating we will have elemental primaries. It could be the discussion is: Why we decided not to bring them back with the elementary burns - but the way it was said today indicates they are coming back.

Mitch Connor

Lighthouse is part of the record book. It is retroactive. I got there the very first day - and didn't get the emblem. I hope it is still counted!

Trials has a full page.