Importing a stock from boyds.

Hunter456

I am going to get a stock sent to a friend in the U.S and he is going to send it to me then, what would be the outcome of this is it allowed or is it illegal, has anyone done this before whats the best service i could use to get it shipped over here and roughly how much.

Free-2-Flow

Hunter456 wrote:

I am going to get a stock sent to a friend in the U.S and he is going to send it to me then, what would be the outcome of this is it allowed or is it illegal, has anyone done this before whats the best service i could use to get it shipped over here and roughly how much.

I had so much trouble with this before that I just quit the whole idea.
I was told by our Authority's that in order to ship a stock from the USA to Ireland I would need to aquire a Firearms cert for it,
I know, it's not a firearm right?
Well good oul Ireland didn't believe so.

Cass

I won't try to answer, specifically, because i'm not 100%. However here are some thing you might need to help you.

There are ITAR restrictions on some items coming out of the states. This restricts the selling and exporting of certain firearms and their components. Another issue is the actual export. So even if the item is not on the ITAR list companies must pay the Federal Government a fee to be able to export their goods. I believe (don't know for sure) that this fee is quite large and so come companies simply don't pay it as their international sales don't warrant the fee.

However the export fee can be avoid if the item you'ere buying is under $100. I recently done this myself. A stock was reduced to $99 (not Boyds) and so i could export it. However if it was at it's normal price ($199) then it falls under the export restrictions.

Now to buy something in person and ship it is tricky. Technically your friend is not a business and if they want to "send you" a stock i don't see why any restrictions would apply. I do know that there are restrictions on some items regardless of who you get it from (direct from company or friend) but most of these relate to firearm actions, barrels, magazines, etc.

So simply answer is i couldn't tell ya for sure.

Longer answer is you could take the chance but if it's caught and not allowed your friend may face a fine or some sort of trouble, and you would loose any money you've given/spent.

What rifle is it for and have you looked to Europe for something similar?

Hunter456

Cass wrote: »

I won't try to answer, specifically, because i'm not 100%. However here are some thing you might need to help you.

There are ITAR restrictions on some items coming out of the states. This restricts the selling and exporting of certain firearms and their components. Another issue is the actual export. So even if the item is not on the ITAR list companies must pay the Federal Government a fee to be able to export their goods. I believe (don't know for sure) that this fee is quite large and so come companies simply don't pay it as their international sales don't warrant the fee.

However the export fee can be avoid if the item you'ere buying is under $100. I recently done this myself. A stock was reduced to $99 (not Boyds) and so i could export it. However if it was at it's normal price ($199) then it falls under the export restrictions.

Now to buy something in person and ship it is tricky. Technically your friend is not a business and if they want to "send you" a stock i don't see why any restrictions would apply. I do know that there are restrictions on some items regardless of who you get it from (direct from company or friend) but most of these relate to firearm actions, barrels, magazines, etc.

So simply answer is i couldn't tell ya for sure.

Longer answer is you could take the chance but if it's caught and not allowed your friend may face a fine or some sort of trouble, and you would loose any money you've given/spent.

What rifle is it for and have you looked to Europe for something similar?

its for a savage axis 223 i have look on European sites and nothing has come up maybe i'm searching it wrong i don't know boyds must the only stock makers for that rifle.

Cass

What type of stock have you in mind? Timber, thumbhole, hunter, laminate, or you don't mind as long as it's not the original stock.

Look at Choate stocks for some nice, and not too expensive, composite options. There are also some other options in that link, but check if they post first.

You can also contact Staffordshire Synthetic Stocks, Form rifle Stocks to see if they do anything for Savage.

Lastly have a think about getting one made. Pat Sludds in Enniscorthy does some seriously tasty work and the price is around the €450 mark.

Wadi14

If all fails give Michelle a shout at https://www.gibraltar-arms.com/
it will cost you prob double the price of the stock but it can be done.

Hunter456

Cass wrote: »

What type of stock have you in mind? Timber, thumbhole, hunter, laminate, or you don't mind as long as it's not the original stock.

Look at Choate stocks for some nice, and not too expensive, composite options. There are also some other options in that link, but check if they post first.

You can also contact Staffordshire Synthetic Stocks, Form rifle Stocks to see if they do anything for Savage.

Lastly have a think about getting one made. Pat Sludds in Enniscorthy does some seriously tasty work and the price is around the €450 mark.

I'm going with the hunter stock with a adjustable comb and stainless steel trigger guard

Cass

The stock is over the $100 limit and then the add-ons bring it to over $220 or so. I think you can pay for the single export but it's in the region of $250.

Hunter456

i emailed most of them and no joy some of them didn't make stocks for the axis.

Cass

Instead of asking about Savage Axis find out the action type and ask about that.

My Savage rifles are all G serie actiions, short actions at that. So when looking for a stock i'd ask suppliers about any stock that fits the Savage G-series short action.

You might get no further than you already have but sometimes being a little less specific can help.

Also check out Savage Shooter Supplies. They specialise in Savage only items including stocks. Might be able to get something there. I got afew bits of them years ago, but am not sure if they still ship to Ireland with all the new regulations.

Hunter456

Cass wrote: »

Instead of asking about Savage Axis find out the action type and ask about that.

My Savage rifles are all G serie actiions, short actions at that. So when looking for a stock i'd ask suppliers about any stock that fits the Savage G-series short action.

You might get no further than you already have but sometimes being a little less specific can help.

Also check out Savage Shooter Supplies. They specialise in Savage only items including stocks. Might be able to get something there. I got afew bits of them years ago, but am not sure if they still ship to Ireland with all the new regulations.

michelle@gibraltar-arms.com emailed me back after days of waiting and they said they could help me out but needed to know what kind of stock it was so that's good news, the savage axis has a detachable mag dose your savage rifle have detachable mags.

IrishTarget

Hunter456 wrote: »

michelle@gibraltar-arms.com emailed me back after days of waiting and they said they could help me out but needed to know what kind of stock it was so that's good news, the savage axis has a detachable mag dose your savage rifle have detachable mags.

Michelle is very good. Sometimes it could take awhile if Gibraltar-arms are not a distributor the particual coypany you want to buy off.

But she will sort it and they have the best costumer service ive ever seen.

Cass

Hunter456 wrote: »

........the savage axis has a detachable mag dose your savage rifle have detachable mags.

No. Both of mine are Blind mags, however i'm currently trying to find a detachable mag and bottom metal for one of them.

Have found a few places, just waiting on word if they'll ship or not.

Wadi14

IrishTarget wrote: »

Michelle is very good. Sometimes it could take awhile if Gibraltar-arms are not a distributor the particual coypany you want to buy off.

But she will sort it and they have the best costumer service ive ever seen.

I have to agree with you I found her customer care to be fantastic

minktrapper

Free-2-Flow wrote: »

I had so much trouble with this before that I just quit the whole idea.
I was told by our Authority's that in order to ship a stock from the USA to Ireland I would need to aquire a Firearms cert for it,
I know, it's not a firearm right?
Well good oul Ireland didn't believe so.

Is this true. I have to get a firearm cert for a stock.

Cass

A stock is technically and legally a component part of a firearm and hence needs authorisation. However unlike a barrel of action its not caliber specific so your firearm cert is usually good enough.

Hack12

Try guntrader.co.uk there is some stocks on there from Boyds around the GB£200+. A few different models but unsure for your gun. Boyds charge $70ish for shipping and if customs nab you it os never as big of a saving as you think it will be for the hassle.

1874

Its that time of year, but my own question relates to the thread,

Looking to buy a stock for a .22lr, its on a US website, not a general catch all for shooting like Brownells, they say they dont mail out of the continental US. So I havent even rang them to see if they would, that said, Brownells sent me stuff where the total was over €99.99, not sure if they made a judgment call on it or if the value of the items that exceeded that just were not limited, one of the items was an accurizing kit.

Ive a relative in the US, I was thinking of getting the money to them and have them buy it or me buy it and ship it to their address and have them hold onto it for me, then on a holiday, pick it up myself.
I dont want them to get in any trouble with it,

Would I have a problem posting it home to myself then as I could be travelling on further myself? or simply packing it away in my suitcase and take it home with me?

Wadi14

http://www.gibraltar-arms.com/
here's another option, email Michelle and ask her for a price, she can buy the stock and post to you, now it will cost you their cut ,postage and insurance but you would have the stock within weeks.
Your probably looking at doubling the price of the stock.

juice1304

1874 wrote: »

Its that time of year, but my own question relates to the thread,

Looking to buy a stock for a .22lr, its on a US website, not a general catch all for shooting like Brownells, they say they dont mail out of the continental US. So I havent even rang them to see if they would, that said, Brownells sent me stuff where the total was over €99.99, not sure if they made a judgment call on it or if the value of the items that exceeded that just were not limited, one of the items was an accurizing kit.

Ive a relative in the US, I was thinking of getting the money to them and have them buy it or me buy it and ship it to their address and have them hold onto it for me, then on a holiday, pick it up myself.
I dont want them to get in any trouble with it,

Would I have a problem posting it home to myself then as I could be travelling on further myself? or simply packing it away in my suitcase and take it home with me?

Its possible that they will confiscate it and posting it without an export licence is a felony if it needs one.

1874

juice1304 wrote: »

Its possible that they will confiscate it and posting it without an export licence is a felony if it needs one.

Thats why I did not want my relative to do anything other than buy it or even be the point I get it delivered too, was trying to look to see if stocks fall under a restriction, and even though I had not reached the point of asking them to do anything, I certainly would not risk them doing anything if I was not 100% sure, I will try source from this end, I saw mentioned previously in the thread gibraltar arms and the previous poster mentioned that too so looks like that could be the best option if it cant be sourced here.

Wadi14 wrote: »

http://www.gibraltar-arms.com/
here's another option, email Michelle and ask her for a price, she can buy the stock and post to you, now it will cost you their cut ,postage and insurance but you would have the stock within weeks.
Your probably looking at doubling the price of the stock.

Thanks, probably go that route, saw it mentioned earlier in the thread, still a recent recommendation suggests its still a good option.

Hack12

I gpt one from sportsmanguncentre.co.uk it worled out around €230.

zeissman

You could also try www.livens.co.uk

Robotack

I ordered direct from boyds in 2014. It was stopped at the Port Laosie Mail Center as I expected. I got a phone call from customs who asked me to email them a copy of my gun licence, which I did. The stock arrived and I was caught for around €28 in VAT plus An Post handling charge. Altogether it was a smooth experience and very "un-Irish".

Hunter456

Cass wrote: »

No. Both of mine are Blind mags, however i'm currently trying to find a detachable mag and bottom metal for one of them.

Have found a few places, just waiting on word if they'll ship or not.

Try riflemags in the UK they have a good selection of mags for certain brands

1874

IrishTarget wrote: »

Michelle is very good. Sometimes it could take awhile if Gibraltar-arms are not a distributor the particual coypany you want to buy off.

But she will sort it and they have the best costumer service ive ever seen.

Does this Michelle have a specific email contact or is it just at the general contact info for Gibraltar arms? I cant locate any email except their in web page contact form, looks like Im going that route.

Wadi14

michelle@gibraltar-arms.com you should get her on this

1874

Wadi14 wrote: »

michelle@gibraltar-arms.com you should get her on this

thanks

1874

Right, Im trying to give this another go myself,
I contacted gibralter arms the last time around and the price was very high.
Ive seen the stock I was looking for available in a European gunshop,
If I can order it from them, given this is in Europe and I have a licence for the actual rifle, if the business doesnt have any problem with me ordering, is there any issue with me ordering from them and either A. having it delivered to me or parcel motel or B. Me going out and collecting it and then bringing it back in a checked luggage suitcase?



Ive heard people have done this from the States in the past for rifle stocks, before and possibly during the situation as it is now, regarding the export of items over $100.I'll be buying in Europe so that wont apply, but are there any export requirments for essentially what is two main parts, both mainly plastic with some rubber, no metal, which expect to be boxed up in the manufacturers box, padded out with styrofoam.

Wadi14

If their in the EU order away and have it sent to your home address