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Ticket Trout

  • 17-01-2017 6:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭


    With the current controversy over the U2 concert i'm just wondering have any of you ever done it??

    I did it once and i got my fingers burn't (you'll be glad to hear)

    It was a few years back.. i bought tickets for Barbra Streisand's Castletown House concert, i was convinced they'd be a huge demand so i got online early in the morning on to the ticketmaster website..delighted with myself for getting a few tickets thinking i'll make a tidy profit.....BUT the concert wasn't a sell out :( come the day of the concert there was still plenty of tickets available...so i had to go to the venue and stand outside with a sign saying tickets for sale and then eventually sell below face value..felt like a right numpty..learn't my lesson that day never again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    you should have called in a bomb threat, concert cancelled, full refund of ticket price


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭ScouseMouse


    Ticket touting is just unfair and I hate it. Hopefully they make it illegal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    No but I can't stand all this whinging about not getting a ticket like someone's life depended on it. Yes it's annoying but if people didn't buy tickets from touts then it wouldn't exist. It's a concert at the end of the day, watch them on YouTube if it means that much to you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭enzo roco


    fryup wrote: »
    i bought tickets for Barbra Streisand's Castletown House concert,


    You stupid fcking cnut*




    * In Al Pacino's voice from Glengary Glenross.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,400 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Hopefully they make it illegal

    It is...seatwave, from the same scumbags that brought you Ticketmaster.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Shove your U2 ticket up your dirty touting hole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I've often bought an extra ticket or two for things like the Electric Picnic but usually sell to friends for face value (or maybe face value and a lift to the event).

    The Seatwave situation is ridiculous and I'd prefer to miss an event than make a profit for a tout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    No but I can't stand all this whinging about not getting a ticket like someone's life depended on it. Yes it's annoying but if people didn't buy tickets from touts then it wouldn't exist. It's a concert at the end of the day, watch them on YouTube if it means that much to you

    Watching someone on YouTube is definitely the same as seeing them live at a gig...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,400 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Watching someone on YouTube is definitely the same as seeing them live at a gig...

    Just get a few mates around the record the screen, and a couple with no interest in the gig to talk amongst themselves for the full authentic experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Just get a few mates around the record the screen, and a couple with no interest in the gig to talk amongst themselves for the full authentic experience.

    I can sell shyte overpriced pints to make it really authentic :D

    I was at Bruce Springsteen during the the summer and one thing is for sure, nothing will compare to seeing that live. Unreal!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    It's the capitalist system. How come everybody's a communist when it comes to concerts and sport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    How would ticket touting legislation in Ireland deal with the Seatwave situation? Maybe a cap on how much above face value they can be sold for? Again dunno how you enforce it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Touters are scummy but people seem to loath to point the finger at the real culprits, namely the promoters and, implicitly, the artists.

    One single half decent boycott would sort the matter out but too many mugs will pay Seat Wave or some spiv a fortune rather than miss their totally unique 10th time watching the same artist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Touters are scummy but people seem to loath to point the finger at the real culprits, namely the promoters and, implicitly, the artists.

    One single half decent boycott would sort the matter out but too many mugs will pay Seat Wave or some spiv a fortune rather than miss their totally unique 10th time watching the same artist.

    That means there's a market for them. If people didn't pay for tickets on the secondary market, there wouldn't be touts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,047 ✭✭✭griffin100


    I had two tickets for the first Ireland - England ruby match in Croke Park. I paid about €120 for the pair. A fiend of a friend offered me €2,500 for them. I sold them and brought the family on holiday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    No, I've often had someone pull out or not end up making a gig / game myself but I've always sold them on for face value.
    Biggest kick in the stones at the moment is the Scottish Rugby Union, openly encourage you to go to viagogo to get tickets. It's an absolute racket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    griffin100 wrote: »
    I had two tickets for the first Ireland - England ruby match in Croke Park. I paid about €120 for the pair. A fiend of a friend offered me €2,500 for them. I sold them and brought the family on holiday.
    Some friend. !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭liz lemoncello


    No but I can't stand all this whinging about not getting a ticket like someone's life depended on it. Yes it's annoying but if people didn't buy tickets from touts then it wouldn't exist. It's a concert at the end of the day, watch them on YouTube if it means that much to you

    Or, see if there is a good Periscope link.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,830 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Touts are scum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Some friend. !

    It was only a fiend so it's alright.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donal55


    In 1990 I bought a ticket from an Italian cop for the Ireland v Romania game in Genoa for face value.
    The police had confiscated the tickets from touts and were just passing them on whilst checking bags, passports etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Some friend. !

    S'OK. Not a friend. A fiend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,955 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Go too gig's on my own most of the time as I don't want to buy extra tickets and then can't get rid off. If I didn't become a loner I would of not seen as many great gig's as I have (some people are afraid to go to the bathroom in a pub on there own lol)

    Not a fan of touts, some are dodgy as **** and are not nice people. Never bought a touted ticket but at almost every gig/match i go too there are fellas there shouting 'anyone buying or selling tickets'.

    I wonder are touts and people who sell the knock off merchandise affialied ???

    The touts must sell the tickets eventually as there's never any empty seats in the arenas/stadiums ???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Commotion Ocean


    Ticket touting is just unfair and I hate it. Hopefully they make it illegal
    Shove your U2 ticket up your dirty touting hole
    Touters are scummy but people seem to loath to point the finger at the real culprits, namely the promoters and, implicitly, the artists.

    One single half decent boycott would sort the matter out but too many mugs will pay Seat Wave or some spiv a fortune rather than miss their totally unique 10th time watching the same artist.
    awec wrote: »
    Touts are scum.


    Should get up earlier and buy the tickets !! N'est pas ?? It's capitalism. Someone has a commodity that you want, swap money for the item. Win win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭SkinnyBuddha


    No but I can't stand all this whinging about not getting a ticket like someone's life depended on it. Yes it's annoying but if people didn't buy tickets from touts then it wouldn't exist. It's a concert at the end of the day, watch them on YouTube if it means that much to you
    or show the same iniative as the touts in getting tickets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Watching someone on YouTube is definitely the same as seeing them live at a gig...
    It solves the problem of "missing out" more than being outraged U2 won't release more dates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    It solves the problem of "missing out" more than being outraged U2 won't release more dates.

    What? It doesn't solve anything. People missed out on tickets and want to see the band, of course they'd love another date if it meant getting to see them. This is hardly rocket science.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    dfeo wrote: »
    Should get up earlier and buy the tickets !! N'est pas ?? It's capitalism. Someone has a commodity that you want, swap money for the item. Win win.

    You're leaving out the part where they have teams/bots buying out tickets giving actual fans no chance. I'm talking about stadiums selling out in seconds. Not exactly this fair utopian solution you seem to be hinting at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    What? It doesn't solve anything. People missed out on tickets and want to see the band, of course they'd love another date if it meant getting to see them. This is hardly rocket science.
    ? I realise that but it's hardly a national catastrophe that someone else got the tickets you wanted and are selling for a higher price


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ****ing trouts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    ? I realise that but it's hardly a national catastrophe that someone else got the tickets you wanted and are selling for a higher price

    Not a catastrophe at all, telling people to watch them on YouTube is however, ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Not a catastrophe at all, telling people to watch them on YouTube is however, ridiculous.
    It's a better alternative than writing disgruntled Facebook comments under an article on Facebook, or acting like people are incapable of thinking for themselves and expensive tickets should be made illegal. If there was no demand or profit being made, touts wouldn't have a business. I'm merely suggesting an alternative way to listen to your fav band when you don't have tickets, instead of calling for the act to be criminalised


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    It's a better alternative than writing disgruntled Facebook comments under an article on Facebook, or acting like people are incapable of thinking for themselves and expensive tickets should be made illegal. If there was no demand or profit being made, touts wouldn't have a business. I'm merely suggesting an alternative way to listen to your fav band when you don't have tickets, instead of calling for the act to be criminalised

    You're just being contentious for the sake of it really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Never touted a ticket myself and I have sold tickets at face value for some massive football games. U2 will release another date, we all know they will and there will be plenty of tickets go to round. As for touting, nobody is going to stop it. The papers will be gloating about the fact that people are buying all ireland tickets for hundreds of euro later this year. Touting seems to be ok when that happens.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,830 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    dfeo wrote: »
    Should get up earlier and buy the tickets !! N'est pas ?? It's capitalism. Someone has a commodity that you want, swap money for the item. Win win.
    Nothing to do with getting up early and it's not capitalism either. It's exploitation.

    It's just scumbags being scumbags.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,830 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Go too gig's on my own most of the time as I don't want to buy extra tickets and then can't get rid off. If I didn't become a loner I would of not seen as many great gig's as I have (some people are afraid to go to the bathroom in a pub on there own lol)

    Not a fan of touts, some are dodgy as **** and are not nice people. Never bought a touted ticket but at almost every gig/match i go too there are fellas there shouting 'anyone buying or selling tickets'.

    I wonder are touts and people who sell the knock off merchandise affialied ???

    The touts must sell the tickets eventually as there's never any empty seats in the arenas/stadiums ???

    These lads are not always touts (though I'm sure some are), they're just trading tickets.

    Say you have a spare ticket at face value of 50 quid. They might buy it off you for 30 quid and you may be happy to take that rather than stand around trying to get rid of it yourself. They'll then sell it on later to someone arriving late for 40 quid or face value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭James Bond Junior


    I'd buy and sell my granny to make a few bob but I won't do the tout thing. Had two tickets for U2 but herself text to say she got them so cancelled the sale. Could surely have made a nice few bob on them but it's scummy. Only thing I would not try and make money on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,813 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Think Lennie Cohen had it right.

    Max purchase? Two tickets. Names printed on them. Identify proof required on the night.

    If you can't go, you send them back and get a full refund. They then go to the next people in the queue.

    Simple. And very effective.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    sadly it only happens because it brings extra profit to the artists and promotors.
    Otherwise they would all use one of the many systems which negate this ****.
    Ticketmaster provide the best revenue to the promotor/band. No fecks are given by these two after that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,955 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    no concert or match is worth paying over the odds for (and thats from an avid event goer like myself)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Td noel rock going to bring in a law to stop the touts. Yeah right..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Td noel rock going to bring in a law to stop the touts. Yeah right..........

    It's up for discussion pretty soon, this week, if I remember correctly. He can only enforce it within the RoI, so it is going to be limited. Fair play to him for actually trying but he won't stop it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Berserker wrote: »
    It's up for discussion pretty soon, this week, if I remember correctly. He can only enforce it within the RoI, so it is going to be limited. Fair play to him for actually trying but he won't stop it.

    Next to useless when most touting happens online so virtually unenforceable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Berserker wrote: »
    Td noel rock going to bring in a law to stop the touts. Yeah right..........

    It's up for discussion pretty soon, this week, if I remember correctly. He can only enforce it within the RoI, so it is going to be limited. Fair play to him for actually trying but he won't stop it.
    Yeah forget about the people in ambulances outside overcrowded hospitals. This really is a major priority. !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭howiya


    Yeah forget about the people in ambulances outside overcrowded hospitals. This really is a major priority. !

    It's probably high on his list of priorities now that he has a nice TD salary and can afford to get to a few extra gigs but can't get tickets online...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    stuck my €150 early bird electric picnic ticket from 2013 on eBay with a buy it now price of €600 to judge demand and it was gone in a few hours! i was flat broke so that was great, though ebay/paypal took about €70 in fees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    though ebay/paypal took about €70 in fees.

    b@stards !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Hockney


    enzo roco wrote: »
    You stupid fcking cnut*




    * In Al Pacino's voice from Glengary Glenross.

    Who eva told ya you could work with men?

    Ya fkcing child



    *Also in Al Pacino's voice from Glengary Glenross


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Chain Smoker


    fryup wrote: »
    It was a few years back.. i bought tickets for Barbra Streisand's Castletown House concert

    Ten years back, would you believe :(

    Yeah though, what possessed you to think that would be one that'd have huge demand? That one even being held there on that scale utterly baffled me at the time, couldn't see where the market was for it it in Ireland at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I don't mind individual touts, it's the corporate and ticket suppliers touting that bother me.


    We all know what Ticketmaster are up to with Seatwave. The FAI do the same thing with Abbeytravel.


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