I bet you didnt know that

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Yeah. it really was. To put it in context, imagine they first came along in 2012, basically just another boy band following the trend, but very quickly went a bit out there and created a new trend. By this year of 2018 we've had 20 odd singles, 10 albums, with Sgt Peppers last year and the White Album coming out a couple of months ago. All but one of which hit number one. Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever being the odd one out and only because the concept of a double A side single was still a bit new, so they counted the two songs separately. And we'd still have two more albums and 3 or 4 singles to go before they split up in 2020. Their talent and pace of real influential change over such a short timeframe is still pretty bloody staggering.

And they had the decency to call it a day, and not keep flogging the horse indefinitely..

There's something tragic about the current craic of keeping going for 30 years in a state of arrested development..milking albums that were big in the 90s or whatever..

Water John

Not really a group decision to disband, Yoko Ono was in the mix, at that time.

Ipso

One of the people involved in getting those warning labels on albums was Al Gore's wife, hearing a filthy Prince song her daughter was playing spurred her into action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center

jbt123

mzungu wrote: »

Wibbs wrote: »

Yeah. it really was. To put it in context, imagine they first came along in 2012, basically just another boy band following the trend, but very quickly went a bit out there and created a new trend. By this year of 2018 we've had 20 odd singles, 10 albums, with Sgt Peppers last year and the White Album coming out a couple of months ago. All but one of which hit number one. Penny Lane/Strawberry Fields Forever being the odd one out and only because the concept of a double A side single was still a bit new, so they counted the two songs separately. And we'd still have two more albums and 3 or 4 singles to go before they split up in 2020. Their talent and pace of real influential change over such a short timeframe is still pretty bloody staggering.

Beaten to the top slot by Engelbert Humperdinck's* "Release Me."


*Gerry Dorsey to his mum and dad!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cgfELLyPu7g

jbt123

^^^^^^^

My apologies I'm not sure how to embed this properly.

If someone would like to do the honors.

BTW, great thread. Long time lurker here. Always a great read. Thank you to all who post here.

New Home

jbt123 wrote: »

^^^^^^^

My apologies I'm not sure how to embed this properly.

If someone would like to do the honors.

BTW, great thread. Long time lurker here. Always a great read. Thank you to all who post here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgfELLyPu7g

Wibbs

When and if we think of the band The Police, who kicked off in the late 1970's, we think of them as one of the first of the New Wave after Punk and another bunch of young lads kicking off. What is usually missed is their guitarist Andy Summers was and is one year older than Mick Jagger, who with his mates rode the wave of British bands nearly twenty years earlier in the 1960's. By late 70's terms, especially by Punk/New Wave terms he was already an "old man" in his late 30's.

New Home

^^^
IIRC, when they started off they were called Military Police.

MikeyTaylor

Wibbs wrote: »

When and if we think of the band The Police, who kicked off in the late 1970's, we think of them as one of the first of the New Wave after Punk and another bunch of young lads kicking off. What is usually missed is their guitarist Andy Summers was and is one year older than Mick Jagger, who with his mates rode the wave of British bands nearly twenty years earlier in the 1960's. By late 70's terms, especially by Punk/New Wave terms he was already an "old man" in his late 30's.

I knew that actually.

quickbeam

Stuart Copeland of The Police is Courtney Cox's cousin.

KevRossi

After The Police split up, about 1/3rd of them reformed as Sting.

Peregrinus

Deleted User wrote: »

And they had the decency to call it a day, and not keep flogging the horse indefinitely..

There's something tragic about the current craic of keeping going for 30 years in a state of arrested development..milking albums that were big in the 90s or whatever..

This is the product of technology.

In the good old days, the money was in sales of recorded music. Bands toured mainly to promote record sales, so concerts were relatively cheap. A successful band could retire, and still live high for decades on the back of royalties - both from continuing sales of their back catalogue and (for composers) from sales of new cover versions of their material by other artistes.

Now, not so much. Digital technology has made distribution/copying/sharing/piracy vastly easier, and this has forced down the price of recorded music. In real terms, artiste's income from recorded music is now a fraction of what it used to be. Which means that the big money, for a successful band, is in live performance. Which is why concerts are now vastly more expensive than they used to be. They are no longer marketing efforts to promote album sales; they are profit centres in their own right.

Which means, of course, that a retired band doesn't enjoy the same continuing income that they used to. So they have to periodically re-form and go on tour again. It's that, or appear in celebrity reality television shows, I'm afraid.

Graces7

JRant wrote: »

Indeeding it does, about 0.5°C less per 500m altitude if my memory serves me well. It does require more energy to boil at higher altitude but the boiling point is lower.

On the jam, it's more than likely being over boiled and this will affect the gel setting in the jam. I could be completely wrong on that though.

you are.completely wrong. water is not jam. period...as professional, experienced preservers know...who do not make errors like that. the answer lies in the pectin that is the setting agent in fruit and thus in jam .....o ff to make jam... head is bursting so offline today..

JRant

Graces7 wrote: »

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you are.completely wrong. water is not jam. period...as professional, experienced preservers know...who do not make errors like that. the answer lies in the pectin that is the setting agent in fruit and thus in jam .....o ff to make jam... head is bursting so offline today..

You'll have to spoon feed me here so as I only ever tried to make jam once about 10 years agos. Do you not need to boil/cook the fruit in water, which in turn releases the pectin?

Carry

Graces7 wrote: »

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you are.completely wrong. water is not jam. period...as professional, experienced preservers know...who do not make errors like that. the answer lies in the pectin that is the setting agent in fruit and thus in jam .....o ff to make jam... head is bursting so offline today..

Well, fruit, which should be essential for jam, contains water, blackberries for example around 84%, plums around 83% and so on.
Jam sets generelly at 104°C. Hence the advice to boil fruit and sugar at least 4 minutes vigorously to reach that temperature.

Water boils at sea level at 100°C, at 3000m (Alps) at 90°C, at 9000m (Mt Everest) at 70°C.
Up in the mountains you need to boil water (or in this example jam) longer to get the boiling temperature. If you make jam on Mt Everest you have to forget the 4 minute rule and boil a little longer to reach the setting temperature.

Tiny differences are caused by air (atmospheric) pressure. The lower the pressure the lower the boiling temperature, even at sea level. But this is usually negligible.

Making jam, too. My plum tree is laden


Your bossy, schoolmarmish tone doesn't help, by the way. Lighten up a little.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Carry wrote: »

Well, fruit, which should be essential for jam, contains water, blackberries for example around 84%, plums around 83% and so on.
Jam sets generelly at 104°C. Hence the advice to boil fruit and sugar at least 4 minutes vigorously to reach that temperature.

Water boils at sea level at 100°C, at 3000m (Alps) at 90°C, at 9000m (Mt Everest) at 70°C.
Up in the mountains you need to boil water (or in this example jam) longer to get the boiling temperature. If you make jam on Mt Everest you have to forget the 4 minute rule and boil a little longer to reach the setting temperature.

Tiny differences are caused by air (atmospheric) pressure. The lower the pressure the lower the boiling temperature, even at sea level. But this is usually negligible.

Making jam, too. My plum tree is laden


Your bossy, schoolmarmish tone doesn't help, by the way. Lighten up a little.

Of course it's the evaporation rate of the water that affects the concentration of pectin and influences setting. It's still down to the changed boiling point of water.

But, again, it is absolutely negligible for any heights achieved in Ireland.

Graces7

Carry wrote: »

Well, fruit, which should be essential for jam, contains water, blackberries for example around 84%, plums around 83% and so on.
Jam sets generelly at 104°C. Hence the advice to boil fruit and sugar at least 4 minutes vigorously to reach that temperature.

Water boils at sea level at 100°C, at 3000m (Alps) at 90°C, at 9000m (Mt Everest) at 70°C.
Up in the mountains you need to boil water (or in this example jam) longer to get the boiling temperature. If you make jam on Mt Everest you have to forget the 4 minute rule and boil a little longer to reach the setting temperature.

Tiny differences are caused by air (atmospheric) pressure. The lower the pressure the lower the boiling temperature, even at sea level. But this is usually negligible.

Making jam, too. My plum tree is laden



Your bossy, schoolmarmish tone doesn't help, by the way. Lighten up a little.

No need to be impertinent.

I mentioned pectin which alters the equation.

OK?
OK!

signing off on this

Graces7

JRant wrote: »

You'll have to spoon feed me here so as I only ever tried to make jam once about 10 years agos. Do you not need to boil/cook the fruit in water, which in turn releases the pectin?

Most jams need no water.

and please, my head is about to explode so can you google it? Blessings and thanks.

Over and out

Graces7

JRant wrote: »

You'll have to spoon feed me here so as I only ever tried to make jam once about 10 years agos. Do you not need to boil/cook the fruit in water, which in turn releases the pectin?

Most jams need no water. jam is a far more complicated yet simpler process than cooking fruit
and please, my head is about to explode so can you google it? Blessings and thanks.

and great difference between the top of an Irish mountain and sea level... where I was in Doneagl was 700 als that does and did alters the setting point of jam in our considerable and professional experience

try it? no? ah well...


Over and out

New Home

Anders Shy Aircraft wrote: »

Of course it's the evaporation rate of the water that affects the concentration of pectin and influences setting. It's still down to the changed boiling point of water.

But, again, it is absolutely negligible for any heights achieved in Ireland.

Maybe in this case it's because fruit picked in different years and different places would yield different results (also due to its water and sugar contents).

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

New Home wrote: »

Maybe in this case it's because fruit picked in different years and different places would yield different results (also due to its water and sugar contents).

Absolutely. The water content of a fruit varies from year to year and place to place. Growing conditions affect pectin and sugar levels too. All these will impact on setting rates in Ireland much more so than altitude. Altitude has an impact in regions of countries like the US and Canada but our 'mountains' are only hills and have no bearing on Jam setting times.

joujoujou

But good jam is good regardless all above arguments. :P

Ipso

It’s all a trifling matter.

Water John

Graces 7 is set in her ways too. No pectin added.

feargale

quickbeam wrote: »

Stuart Copeland of The Police is Courtney Cox's cousin.

I have a cousin in the polIce myself. Just say the word if you want something fixed :cool:

Water John

Two words? Penalty points.

Capt'n Midnight

Ipso wrote: »

It’s all a trifling matter.

If you get some custard in your ears, you may become a trifle deaf.


Top Tip :
If you ever get a peanut stuck in your ear, pour in some melted chocolate.
It'll come out a treat.

I really love this thread.

aziz

Candie wrote: »

I really love this thread.

I didn't know that

mzungu

The jellyfish has caused shutdowns in power plants in America, UK, Sweden, Japan, the Philippines and Israel over the past few decades. A lot of power plants are situated by the coast because they have boiling water reactors. This means that inside the reactor core, there are hundreds of scorchingly hot fuel rods that constantly need to be cooled down. So, the plants pipe water in from nearby bodies of water. Hence, why so many nuclear plants are built on the coast.

The pipe that takes in the seawater gets clogged as it tends to take in sea creatures along with water. When enough of them get in, they clog the way and prevent enough cooling water from entering the system—giving rise to a bona fide risk of meltdown if the plant isn't taken offline. At a blowout in the Philippines in 1999, they had to remove a staggering 50 truck loads of jellyfish before they could get the plant back running again.

We know that jellyfish breed very quickly, but what we can't be sure of is why their numbers have been steadily growing. One theory suggests that climate change could be responsible, and another suggests overfishing of their predators.

Getting rid of jellyfish that were blocking the grills at a power station in Hadera, Israel:







Sweden’s Oskarshamn nuclear plant shut down a reactor after jellyfish clogged its seawater pipes:




Short video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsUNZBxzddY