I bet you didnt know that

Bandana boy

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Only 4.4 percent of the world's population (includes Irish people) lives in a full democracy.

you will have to define Full Democracy , India is a Democracy and is 17% of the world on its own

The EU is about 9% of the world population and America about 4.2%

and why would the world population not include Ireland

Im gonna call fake news

shakeitoff

When you think of soccer in the USA today, it has the soccer mom image, the trendy sport of the upper middle class, however in the 20's it was nearly about to eclipse baseball as America's main sport. A lot of Europe's best players went to play in the American Soccer League and fans in the industrialised north crowded into the stadiums. A few factors like the great depression, Isolationism and anti-foreigner rhetoric(causing immigrants to ditch soccer in favour of American sports) and gross mismanagement confined US soccer to 60 years in the doldrums. It's going mainstream now again...sort of.

New Home

There's a website (a legitimate one) that calculates the actual levels of democracy of each country, including stuff like who controls the media, etc. I'll see if I can find it.

NoviGlitzko

Bandana boy wrote: »

you will have to define Full Democracy , India is a Democracy and is 17% of the world on its own

The EU is about 9% of the world population and America about 4.2%

and why would the world population not include Ireland

Im gonna call fake news

I mean't included in the 4.4% is the population of Ireland. Full democracy as defined as a non-flawed democracy as according to the Democracy Index.

New Home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices

sbsquarepants

New Home wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices

Very interesting list - I see the home of the free is not quite as free as the little old emerald isle. USA ranks 21st and is classed as a flawed democracy.

Bandana boy

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Very interesting list - I see the home of the free is not quite as free as the little old emerald isle. USA ranks 21st and is classed as a flawed democracy.

As is France , arguably the birth place of modern democracy.
I think in fairness if your ranking USA and France as not a democracy then your measuring system is to stringent

brainfreeze

Bandana boy wrote: »

you will have to define Full Democracy , India is a Democracy and is 17% of the world on its own

The EU is about 9% of the world population and America about 4.2%

and why would the world population not include Ireland

Im gonna call fake news[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#Classification_definitions

Full democracies are nations where civil liberties and basic political freedoms are not only respected, but also reinforced by a political culture conducive to the thriving of democratic principles. These nations have a valid system of governmental checks and balances, independent judiciary whose decisions are enforced, governments that function adequately, and media that is diverse and independent. These nations have only limited problems in democratic functioning.

Flawed democracies are nations where elections are fair and free and basic civil liberties are honored but may have issues (e.g. media freedom infringement). Nonetheless, these nations have significant faults in other democratic aspects, including underdeveloped political culture, low levels of participation in politics, and issues in the functioning of governance.

India is the latter.

Chancer3001

Ireland is also the latter

wexie

Bandana boy wrote: »

I think in fairness if your ranking USA and France as not a democracy then your measuring system is to stringent

There are those that would argue, in fact, that the USA is about as close to a perfect democracy you can get :

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

https://thedailybanter.com/issues/2017/01/02/trump-presidency-was-predicted-97-years-ago/

ohnonotgmail

A Farmer in Scotland once saved a nobleman from near death when he helped him out of a bog in which he was stuck waist deep.
To repay his debt he paid for a good education for the farmers son.

That son left St.Mary's Hospital Medical School in London, and went
on to become known throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.

Years later the nobelmans son was struck down with pneumonia, What saved him? Penicillin

The nobleman's name? Randolph Churchill. His son's name? Sir Winston Churchill.

Gloomtastic!

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

A Farmer in Scotland once saved a nobleman from near death when he helped him out of a bog in which he was stuck waist deep.
To repay his debt he paid for a good education for the farmers son.

That son left St.Mary's Hospital Medical School in London, and went
on to become known throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.

Years later the nobelmans son was struck down with pneumonia, What saved him? Penicillin

The nobleman's name? Randolph Churchill. His son's name? Sir Winston Churchill.

That’s brilliant, thanks. To think that a Scotsman saved the life of the greatest-ever Englishman. :rolleyes:

cdeb

Snopes says nope unfortunately

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-goes-around/

Capt'n Midnight

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

A Farmer in Scotland once saved a nobleman
...
The nobleman's name? Randolph Churchill. His son's name? Sir Winston Churchill.

Nah

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-goes-around/

but see also https://xkcd.com/250/

FrancieBrady

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

That’s brilliant, thanks. To think that a Scotsman saved the life of the greatest-ever Englishman. :rolleyes:

The Bengali's might not be so thankful.

Gloomtastic!

cdeb wrote: »

Snopes says nope unfortunately

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-goes-around/

Doh! Consider the fireworks well and truly pissed on.

CPTM

cdeb wrote: »

Snopes says nope unfortunately

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-goes-around/

Aw no! Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story :P

cdeb

Not on this thread.

ohnonotgmail

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Nah

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/what-goes-around/

but see also https://xkcd.com/250/

Boooooooooo

Realt Dearg Sec

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

That’s brilliant, thanks. To think that a Scotsman saved the life of the greatest-ever Englishman. :rolleyes:

The Bengali's might not be so thankful.

Or the Kurds, Afghans, Kenyans, or Irish...

Buford T. Justice XIX

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The Bengali's might not be so thankful.

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Or the Kurds, Afghans, Kenyans, or Irish...

Mod note:Easy, folks, let's not do this here. Plenty of other threads out there for that, this ISN'T one!

Buford T. Justice

Gloomtastic!

NAMA is owned by the Church of Ireland.

cdeb

That's a bit misleading.

The CoI is one of many shareholders in NAMA, and a relatively small one at that (about 5%)

The biggest shareholder is the state, with 49%

Gloomtastic!

cdeb wrote: »

That's a bit misleading.

The CoI is one of many shareholders in NAMA, and a relatively small one at that (about 5%)

The biggest shareholder is the state, with 49%

Drat, foiled again! :rolleyes:

Bandana boy

The COI and their counterparts in UK are very shrew investors and have investments in many companies that would suprise many of their followers ,and seemingly at odds with their beliefs , including arms companies

wildlifeboy

Bandana boy wrote: »

The COI and their counterparts in UK are very shrew investors and have investments in many companies that would suprise many of their followers ,and seemingly at odds with their beliefs , including arms companies

Do they invest in pygmy or white toothed portfolios?

Water John

I was going WTF for a minute.

BaZmO*

Water John wrote: »

I was going WTF for a minute.

I even Googled "white toothed portfolios" :rolleyes::o

Ipso

Bandana boy wrote: »

The COI and their counterparts in UK are very shrew investors and have investments in many companies that would suprise many of their followers ,and seemingly at odds with their beliefs , including arms companies

Money makes for strange bed fellows.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi

Franz Von Peppercorn

I still don’t get the white toothed portfolios thing.