This is Jobstown.

James Bond Junior

Watching it here and my blood is boiling. I'm lucky to have a few bob left at the end of the week after the mortgage, bills, car running costs and the other endless unexpected costs are accounted for.

Hard to swallow people giving out that they aren't been given a house by the state and **** education and every other resource given to them whilst us in the squeezed middle are fighting to keep the show on the road.

maudgonner

So I take it the area is ironically named?

The_Valeyard

maudgonner wrote: »

So I take it the area is ironically named?

Bit like Lousybush in Wexford.

enzo roco

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Watching it here and my blood is boiling. I'm lucky to have a few bob left at the end of the week after the mortgage, bills, car running costs and the other endless unexpected costs are accounted for.

Hard to swallow people giving out that they aren't been given a house by the state and **** education and every other resource given to them whilst us in the squeezed middle are fighting to keep the show on the road.

Its bs on tv3. They must come up with ideas just to annoy people...

Many people living in jobstown are in the middle class. Some even pay Rent/Mortgage. Unbelievable I know, but its true.

Capt'n Midnight

It's all to do with the Apostrophe

It's the town of Job, Job's town.

The story of Job http://thebricktestament.com/job/

TLDR version Job gets stuff.
http://thebricktestament.com/job/god_gives_job_replacement_children_money/jb42_10.html

How Soon Is Now

Ya I dunno why the **** I'm watching this but nothing else on and me daughter is lying on top me so can't grab remote ha. Seriously though these shows really pick out the stereotypically types your not gonna get the average everyday decent people living in Jobs town in fairness.

Been around tallaght enough over the years to know theres all kinds living in it but some are the hardest working people you could meet they just happen to be stuck there.

SteM

TV3s version of Benefit Street, designed to annoy the general public.

infogiver

James Bond Junior wrote: »

Watching it here and my blood is boiling. I'm lucky to have a few bob left at the end of the week after the mortgage, bills, car running costs and the other endless unexpected costs are accounted for.

Hard to swallow people giving out that they aren't been given a house by the state and **** education and every other resource given to them whilst us in the squeezed middle are fighting to keep the show on the road.

Paul Murphy TD told them that you work 4 hours per week at €1000 per hour pulling the wings of butterflies, and that it is YOU who only pay €25 per week for the mansion that your living in and nothing at all for the Bentley that you drive around like the lord of the Manor
So it is YOUR fault that they are living like pigs...
If pigs had 52" TVs and 3 weeks a year in Santa Ponsa

Toots

I've been to Santa Ponta.... wouldn't view 3 weeks there as a perk tbh

Birneybau

infogiver wrote: »

Paul Murphy TD told them that you work 4 hours per week at €1000 per hour pulling the wings of butterflies, and that it is YOU who only pay €25 per week for the mansion that your living in and nothing at all for the Bentley that you drive around like the lord of the Manor
So it is YOUR fault that they are living like pigs...
If pigs had 52" TVs and 3 weeks a year in Santa Ponsa

Just James Bond Junior or...?

infogiver

Toots wrote: »

I've been to Santa Ponta.... wouldn't view 3 weeks there as a perk tbh

It's hot
It's got pools
It's got sky sports
It's got proper food
It's got Irish pubs
With Irish people in them
Wearing UK football jerseys
What's not to like?

Ulysses Gaze

SteM wrote: »

TV3s version of Benefit Street, designed to annoy the general public.

I can't watch these programs. They are designed to angry up the blood.

infogiver

Birneybau wrote: »

Just James Bond Junior or...?

No....more or less everyone who doesn't live in Jobstown or it's equivalent right across the entire country
They are the victims
Everyone else is victimising them

Richard Hillman

I counted 4 packs of Silk Cut Purple on the table for one of the women. That's 40 quid of cigarettes. Her poor son (who has a child) thought you could buy an apartment for 30k.


The Darndale programme TV3 was a disaster in that it made the area look bad and one of the "Good Guys" on the show ended up going to prison for Armed Robbery.

I also think it was misguided to "celebrate" Jobstown when a young lad was murdered last week

somefeen

infogiver wrote: »

Paul Murphy TD told them that you work 4 hours per week at €1000 per hour pulling the wings of butterflies, and that it is YOU who only pay €25 per week for the mansion that your living in and nothing at all for the Bentley that you drive around like the lord of the Manor
So it is YOUR fault that they are living like pigs...
If pigs had 52" TVs and 3 weeks a year in Santa Ponsa

Its moths actually and its 30 euro

Capt'n Midnight

SteM wrote: »

TV3s version of Benefit Street, designed to annoy the general public.

fyp

Joe Hill

Toots wrote: »

I've been to Santa Ponta.... wouldn't view 3 weeks there as a perk tbh

It's a dump

B.A._Baracus

Totally agree that they are just made to anger people.
But meh. If anyone really wants to complain about it I guess what's stopping them from doing the same. Easy to quit your job and go down the social

222233

I had to youtube and google this Jobstown and saw the strangest most ironic video ever; a number of people appear to be graduating from college, meanwhile a number of other people are staging some form of "traitor" protest outside the gates (not sure what it was actually I can't understand).

infogiver

somefeen wrote: »

Its moths actually and its 30 euro

Fair enough my bad.

Kamili

Pronounced Joe-bstown rather than jobs-town..

infogiver

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Totally agree that they are just made to anger people.
But meh. If anyone really wants to complain about it I guess what's stopping them from doing the same. Easy to quit your job and go down the social

How would I pay my mortgage?

Omackeral

''Like I've to get 12 bottles of milk, 6 slice pans and whatever else and we haven't a penny to rub together at the end of the week.''

Meanwhile Sky Sports is on in the background and she's smoking in every single scene.

taylor3

At the very start of the show the commentator referred to the area as Jobstown being a working class area and I thought that was ironic as a lot of the people on this show won't be working at all. A bit of a kick in the teeth to real working class people.

Phoebas

SteM wrote: »

TV3s version of Benefit Street, designed to annoy the general public.

Did I miss something? - it was on in the background and I wasn't really paying attention.

I saw one family - the couple with the baby looking for a landlord to take them on the HAP scheme - on benefits.
Then there was the one running the boxing club and the retired MMA guy setting up the gym and the guy with a fear of flying.
There was some kid that had dropped out of school enquiring about some back to education program.

I wasn't annoyed at all by it, there were some positive stories in there.

FTA69

Lowest common denominator sh*te, I wouldn't watch it if I was paid.

As annoying as some of these characters are, they aren't the major malaise in our societies like. Here in the U.K, the likes of Vodafone or Starbucks scammed the exchequer out of billions - which is a f*ck ton more of a cost to society than some wan smoking fags while being on the dole. Funnily enough though we aren't treated to hour-long features about Bankers Street or the rest of it.

They call that "poverty porn" over here, I just call it plain lazy b*llocks to be honest.

Birneybau

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I counted 4 packs of Silk Cut Purple on the table for one of the women. That's 40 quid of cigarettes. Her poor son (who has a child) thought you could buy an apartment for 30k.


The Darndale programme TV3 was a disaster in that it made the area look bad and one of the "Good Guys" on the show ended up going to prison for Armed Robbery.

I also think it was misguided to "celebrate" Jobstown when a young lad was murdered last week

I dare say this was filmed ages ago.

Phoebas

Kamili wrote: »

Pronounced Joe-bstown rather than jobs-town..

Presumably after the Book of Job.
Councils have a habit of naming housing schemes after religious figures or rebel leaders. There must be some psychology behind it.

Elemonator

To be honest OP, I'd rather be a hard worker and come out with a smidge less than the dole a week than sit around and be a waste of space. It's good for anyone.

B.A._Baracus

infogiver wrote: »

How would I pay my mortgage?

Simples.
You get the state to give you a free house. According to a lot of people you get to have 3 holidays a year too :pac:

infogiver

Omackeral wrote: »

''Like I've to get 12 bottles of milk, 6 slice pans and whatever else and we haven't a penny to rub together at the end of the week.''

Meanwhile Sky Sports is on in the background and she's smoking in every single scene.

I was in conversation with 2 women who work in Housing in our LA
When social housing tenants get into arrears and won't "engage" they will call on them at home often accompanied by a CWO to see if their are "social" issues that can be addressed and to basically help them to look at their income/expenditure etc
Social housing is means tested so everyone just pays what they can afford
The number of tenants who consider Sky tv full package at €105 per month "non-negotiable" is staggering
Even when they're being told that they will have to cut back on something in order to pay the rent, or ultimately face eviction, the sky and the fags are "off limits"

Stheno

infogiver wrote: »

It's hot
It's got pools
It's got sky sports
It's got proper food
It's got Irish pubs
With Irish people in them
Wearing UK football jerseys
What's not to like?

All of the above.

I once got lost and ended up in Jobstown in the middle of rush hour.

There was no traffic until I got out of Jobstown.

CatFromHue

Birneybau wrote: »

I dare say this was filmed ages ago.

you mean it's not live :eek:

infogiver

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Simples.
You get the state to give you a free house. According to a lot of people you get to have 3 holidays a year too :pac:

No if you own or even part own a property then you won't be considered for the housing list and then won't get a council house.So it's not simples.
By the time I left home I knew that I had to provide a roof for myself by going to work to exchange my effort and time for money.
When I see able bodied people standing about not working and expecting to be housed and fed it still amazes me
And I'm 52 now

nerobert

Anyone any idea when this will be on 3 player ?

A Battered Mars Bar

F*cking love these programmes. Haven't watched this yet though! Just pure indulgence watching how the other half live. All the luxuries they have and the bits where you say god damn losers! Etc it's great. Great televiewing

Gatling

infogiver wrote: »

I was in conversation with 2 women who work in Housing in our LA
When social housing tenants get into arrears and won't "engage" they will call on them at home often accompanied by a CWO to see if their are "social" issues that can be addressed and to basically help them to look at their income/expenditure etc
Social housing is means tested so everyone just pays what they can afford
The number of tenants who consider Sky tv full package at €105 per month "non-negotiable" is staggering
Even when they're being told that they will have to cut back on something in order to pay the rent, or ultimately face eviction, the sky and the fags are "off limits"

What's gas there's currently 50+ million owed to local authorities due unpaid and rent arrears across the country ,
And people actually blamed the recession can't pay €100 + to pay for the rent but as you said 120 on sky sports and the latest gadgets ,
And having more kids

Stheno

Gatling wrote: »

What's gas there's currently 50+ million owed to local authorities due unpaid and rent arrears across the country ,
And people actually blamed the recession can't pay €100 + to pay for the rent but as you said 120 on sky sports and the latest gadgets ,
And having more kids

Now I'm not being smart but I've sky plus sports and movies, multiroom, boxsets and HD for 96.50 per month

I'm not a LA housing tenant though but that 30+ per month saving they could get if they rang up might pay some of their rent.

I do think with some on the lower end of the social ladder that there is a lack of education/awareness out there and do wonder if they got that education would they be better off?

For Forks Sake

nerobert wrote: »

Anyone any idea when this will be on 3 player ?

It being TV3, probably sometime mid-2032

infogiver

Gatling wrote: »

What's gas there's currently 50+ million owed to local authorities due unpaid and rent arrears across the country ,
And people actually blamed the recession can't pay €100 + to pay for the rent but as you said 120 on sky sports and the latest gadgets ,
And having more kids

You can have a family in receipt of
€188+
€124+
€60 (2kids)+
€100 ( 18 year old) =
€472
And as you say rent €100 per week and they will be consistently in arrears safe in the knowledge that they won't be evicted.
With the current crisis though I can see the arrears being clamped down on soon

How Soon Is Now

In fairness how do yous know there paying for sky ? Most people are using the android boxs for illegal streams as i do myself which are either free or a much much smaller fee for iptv.

Also i know for a fact a lot of people buy boxs of smokes in bulk cause there not buying them from the shop there buying them from someone whos selling them on the side for cheaper.

Nothing is as it seems lads :pac: .

andekwarhola

They should do a follow up called This Is Outraged Box Rooms so the country can crack a few tax-subsidized Dutchies and enjoy the storm.

Phoebas

You know that 'Found Poems' thing that Dave Gorman does?
Quality material right on this thread.

infogiver

Phoebas wrote: »

You know that 'Found Poems' thing that Dave Gorman does?
Quality material right on this thread.

I've tried alerting him to liberal.ie Facebook page or FM 104 Jeremy and Adrian Facebook

ThisRegard

Stheno wrote: »

All of the above.

I once got lost and ended up in Jobstown in the middle of rush hour.

There was no traffic until I got out of Jobstown.

You'll find very little traffic at rush hour in any housing estate around the country.

Gatling

Seems one of the people mentioned in the programme are up in arms over it ,

darkpagandeath

Plenty on the dole on the SS maybe a ...fast google..... Shankill the crap part Rathsallagh ? Make a great show ?

Wheeliebin30

Omackeral wrote: »

''Like I've to get 12 bottles of milk, 6 slice pans and whatever else and we haven't a penny to rub together at the end of the week.''

Meanwhile Sky Sports is on in the background and she's smoking in every single scene.

And then falls into the poverty and child poverty bull**** stats we have to listen to from sinn fein aaa pbp.

Lucy8080

The upper class: Keeps all of the money,pays none of the taxes.

The middle class: Pays all of the taxes, does all of the work.

The poor are there...just to scare the **** out of the middle class.

- George Carlin.

B.A._Baracus

infogiver wrote: »

No if you own or even part own a property then you won't be considered for the housing list and then won't get a council house.So it's not simples.
By the time I left home I knew that I had to provide a roof for myself by going to work to exchange my effort and time for money.
When I see able bodied people standing about not working and expecting to be housed and fed it still amazes me
And I'm 52 now

You do realise I was making a joke right? :pac:
But since you replied back with a serious reply I will give a serious reply too....

You say you are 52, right? well you're old enough to realise life isn't fair. You're old enough to realise everyone is out for as much as they can get. Some people do it the 'honest' way and work and save. Others milk the social welfare system. Life isn't fair.

Gatling wrote: »

Seems one of the people mentioned in the programme are up in arms over it ,

What did they expect :pac:
A really good question to ask is why would anyone ever agree to appear on one of these programmes? you know you're going to come off as some dole sponge.

Kermit.de.frog

222233 wrote: »

I had to youtube and google this Jobstown and saw the strangest most ironic video ever; a number of people appear to be graduating from college, meanwhile a number of other people are staging some form of "traitor" protest outside the gates (not sure what it was actually I can't understand).

Linky to video?