Complaint about haunted bread on Late Late Show

Cabaal

vkid wrote: »

They were funny once and wrote a couple of catchy tunes. Blind boy appearing on the late late every five minutes giving us his social commentary with his "I'm very intelligent really " shtick isn't anywhere near as entertaining.
It's getting pretty boring to be fair

In all fairness I think they are silly and scrapping the barrel when it comes to comedy, but none the less what they stated was pretty accurate and to be fair it was satire.
Shutting down comments like this on Irish TV is pretty much equal to banning the airing of Life Of Brian or Meaning Of Life.
Of course we must remember that Life Of Brian was banned in Ireland at one time....lets not go back to such a backwards time.

How many catholic priests would find the below offensive?
I'm guessing many, but that certainly doesn't mean for a second they're beliefs should get protection from satire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

RabbleRouser2k

Normally I would agree it was satire-but then again, it's the Late Late Show. It's meant to be serious, even if it does, at times, come across as bad satire.
I was far more offended by both the botox segment, and the 'harpist stuck in the back'. Switching between channels, saw Amanda Brunker, remember the 'she's gonna get botox live on telly' reports, and changed the channel post haste. I'm a simple man, I see that person, i change the channel.
(All the hype, and most of that gets covered on Xpose, a show that goes out in the evenings, and wouldn't even dedicate five minutes to a segment like that. And doesn't go over time either).
But any time Brunker turns up on tv, I just don't wanna know. At all. Ever. So I chose to watch paint dry...I felt more intellectually challenged that way.

But that said, I still think the 'haunted bread' thing was said in jest. I cannot believe that someone could have so lost their sense of humour as to realise that it wasn't said in all seriousness.

donkeykong5

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Normally I would agree it was satire-but then again, it's the Late Late Show. It's meant to be serious, even if it does, at times, come across as bad satire.
I was far more offended by both the botox segment, and the 'harpist stuck in the back'. Switching between channels, saw Amanda Brunker, remember the 'she's gonna get botox live on telly' reports, and changed the channel post haste. I'm a simple man, I see that person, i change the channel.
(All the hype, and most of that gets covered on Xpose, a show that goes out in the evenings, and wouldn't even dedicate five minutes to a segment like that. And doesn't go over time either).
But any time Brunker turns up on tv, I just don't wanna know. At all. Ever. So I chose to watch paint dry...I felt more intellectually challenged that way.

Would prefer bunker amy day to a dope from limerick with a plastic bag taped to his face.

me_right_one

Dont worry Frostyjacks. The tide is turning.

RabbleRouser2k

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Would prefer bunker amy day to a dope from limerick with a plastic bag taped to his face.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...lets not say stuff we can't take back...this is Brunker, Brunker...

The woman who ruined Electric Picnic--well, the woman who helped usher in the death of Electric Picnic. I would argue EP ruined ittself.

Are we even sure BBBC is from Limerick-is it something like the 'went to college in Limerick, started taking the piddle out of them Limerick yokels' rather than actually from Limerick?

newacc2015

Why are the media giving press to a self-founded never heard of before lobby group on this?

RTE set a dodgy precedent with the whole Panti situation. If you dont like what was said on RTE and if you were offended, you might get a payout

infogiver

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Would prefer bunker amy day to a dope from limerick with a plastic bag taped to his face.

It's just embarrassing. I imagine them at home at night desperately trying to write another "Horse Outside ".
If in doubt, appear on the Late Late and say something totally unfunny but seriously offensive to many Late Late viewers.
Let's face it. The vast majority of viewers sitting at home watching RTE on Saturday night are 55+, wether Tubs likes it or not.
Gaurunteed a bit of social media coverage at least.

Hotblack Desiato

newacc2015 wrote: »

Why are the media giving press to a self-founded never heard of before lobby group on this?

Because they hate RTE? Similar to every UK newspaper relishing a chance to have a pop at the BBC, but worse because as well as getting the licence fee RTE is competing with other media outlets for advertising.

RTE set a dodgy precedent with the whole Panti situation. If you dont like what was said on RTE and if you were offended, you might get a payout

They sure did, and that's a certainty to bite them right in the bum again at some point.

Advbrd wrote: »

You forgot male, white and privileged.

And from Mayo - they're the Stonecutters of Ireland.

PopePalpatine

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

So that's a big fat no then.

What did you expect?

Xcom2

infogiver wrote: »

The vast majority of viewers sitting at home watching RTE on Saturday night are 55+,

And therin lies the problem.

RTE is a dinosaur that has nowhere to go but down(perhaps the can all be put down at once in a cataclysmic event that removes all the pension grabbing feckers).

They know no other channel!


:-)

pauldla

PopePalpatine wrote: »

What did you expect?

Wow, that's quite a thread. Explains a lot.

robindch

pauldla wrote: »

Wow, that's quite a thread.

Lordy, lordy.

Walter H Price

have to say i love this phrase will be using it in the future hahahaha

donkeykong5

Still find it pathetic that no marks looking for 5 minutes of fame have to resort to slagging off roman catholics and their beliefs to get it.

Walter H Price

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Still find it pathetic that no marks looking for 5 minutes of fame have to resort to slagging off roman catholics and their beliefs to get it.

Was a great line to be fair though

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magicbastarder

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Still find it pathetic that no marks looking for 5 minutes of fame have to resort to slagging off roman catholics and their beliefs to get it.

have you never slagged anyone for their beliefs?

Allinall

Walter H Price wrote: »

have to say i love this phrase will be using it in the future hahahaha

What phrase have you been using up to now ?

Robineen

I see it as progress that there was little to no hubbub about it. Remember Tommy Tiernan on the Late Late in the 90s?

Robineen

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Still find it pathetic that no marks looking for 5 minutes of fame have to resort to slagging off roman catholics and their beliefs to get it.

I take the South Park viewpoint that everyone and everything is fair game for humour. It's all OK or none of it is. Yes, atheism too, but religions are not and should not be exempt. There is no reason for them to be. Oh, and the 'haunted bread' quip made this poster laugh.

Walter H Price

Allinall wrote: »

What phrase have you been using up to now ?

Usually just wafer , as in if asked "no i don't partake in the wafer" , haunted bread trumps that hands down.

Really only ever come up at funeral and weddings though maybe the odd christening , if i go.

robindch

Other variations included "half-time biscuits" and "holy crackers" (and vice-versa) which did the rounds a while ago and without - so far as I'm aware - so much as a single one of our religious friends clutching their chests and tipping into their porridge face-first.

oldrnwisr

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Still find it pathetic that no marks looking for 5 minutes of fame have to resort to slagging off roman catholics and their beliefs to get it.

I'll just leave this here.

Cabaal

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Still find it pathetic that no marks looking for 5 minutes of fame have to resort to slagging off roman catholics and their beliefs to get it.

Better then burning people at the stake any day of the week,

No religious idea should be above satire, we don't live in 1950's Ireland anymore thankfully.

infogiver

Robineen wrote: »

I see it as progress that there was little to no hubbub about it. Remember Tommy Tiernan on the Late Late in the 90s?

People were still watching the Late Late in the late 1990s. Who's watching it now? Even if they were watching,
most average practising Catholics are used to desperate z list celebrities and one hit wonders trying to be shocking edgy and cool by disrespecting the Church.
I mean if you have to appear on Tubridy with a plastic bag stuck to your face and your still trading of a novelty song that was a smutty little ditty you had a hit with years ago....

Cabaal

This make believe outrage is actually hilarious,

Father Ted does miles more mocking of the Catholic Church then anything on the latelate show last week. Why aren't complaints being lodged about that on a weekly basis?

Anyone outraged clearly has been living under a rock for 20 years.

In the meantime Father Ted remains comedy gold.

Fleawuss

There's nothing "edgy" about pointing out the ridiculousness of religious belief in transubstantiation. The church isn't an "edgy" target: people trying to paint rational human beings as seeking attention by simply pointing out absurdity is the true edgy. Trying desperately to spin for the church in this way is trying to appear different and radical. The root of the church's problems are in fact the root of itself: it's utterly nonsensical dogmas and "revelations". The tide has gone out on mumbo jumbo. It's not coming back.

Robineen

infogiver wrote: »

People were still watching the Late Late in the late 1990s. Who's watching it now? Even if they were watching,
most average practising Catholics are used to desperate z list celebrities and one hit wonders trying to be shocking edgy and cool by disrespecting the Church.
I mean if you have to appear on Tubridy with a plastic bag stuck to your face and your still trading of a novelty song that was a smutty little ditty you had a hit with years ago....

Watching something was never an impediment to complaining about it as "moral crusader" Mary Whitehouse ably demonstrated in the UK.

Robineen

Cabaal wrote: »

This make believe outrage is actually hilarious,

Father Ted does miles more mocking of the Catholic Church then anything on the latelate show last week. Why aren't complaints being lodged about that on a weekly basis?

Anyone outraged clearly has been living under a rock for 20 years.

In the meantime Father Ted remains comedy gold.

In fairness, Ted has a different tone. Graham Linehan has said on the commentary that he was going for affection and, despite being atheist, irreverence was not his or Arthur Mathew's goal. And that comes across, IMO.

RabbleRouser2k

Robineen wrote: »

In fairness, Ted has a different tone. Graham Linehan has said on the commentary that he was going for affection and, despite being atheist, irreverence was not his or Arthur Mathew's goal. And that comes across, IMO.

And as they noted at the time, if they did go for a 'harsher' tone-the audience would not be there.
IT had to appeal to a broad range of people and actors. The late Frank Kelly, Father Jack, was very much a strong believer in his Catholic faith.
And Kelly was just, essentially, a casual believer, not the deranged 'Believe in this or I'll set you on fire' fanatic that we so often get scolded by-nobody is a good enough believer for them.
So if they had 'attacked' the extreme believer-which Ireland, and many other countries, have seen far too many of-they would have put off the casual believer. The 'Live and Let Liver's' folks.

It's sort of the challenge of doing anything satirical-too harsh and it's 'far too mean', too soft and its 'cowardice'.

Cabaal

Robineen wrote: »

In fairness, Ted has a different tone. Graham Linehan has said on the commentary that he was going for affection and, despite being atheist, irreverence was not his or Arthur Mathew's goal. And that comes across, IMO.

I don't think the outraged Catholics in the 90s who were outraged when it first aired on RTE saw it as anything other then mocking to be fair.

I still know Catholics that find it offensive, but still seeing a lack of complaints about it because they know they'll be laughed out of it.

Also, I go back to my earlier reference to life of Brian, previously banned in Catholic Ireland for around 8 years. Yet to look at it now it's really no different to father Ted.

Robineen

Cabaal wrote: »

I don't think the outraged Catholics in the 90s who were outraged when it first aired on RTE saw it as anything other then mocking to be fair.

I still know Catholics that find it offensive, but still seeing a lack of complaints about it because they know they'll be laughed out of it.

Also, I go back to my earlier reference to life of Brian, previously banned in Catholic Ireland for around 8 years. Yet to look at it now it's really no different to father Ted.

I have no recollection of there being much outrage at Ted. I think I'd remember if there was, I still remember the Tommy Tiernan furore from the same time period. I don't think it comes across at mocking at all, it's essentially a good-natured show.

Brian?

frostyjacks wrote: »

Tommy Tiernan was mocking Christianity what, ten years ago, when the Church was much more powerful than it is today. It's such an easy, safe target to mock. I want to see comedians target homosexuals, transgenders or refugees. They are the ones who have the power now.

Bernard Manning, Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson were doing that in the 70s. It wasn't very funny then.

Brian?

donkeykong5 wrote: »

I don think the dope who talks crap with a plastic bag tied round his head deserves the title comedian. As your posters are calling him. They were over in uk last year and people thought they were pathetic.

Is that why they've had shows on ITV, CH4 and MTV?

Cabaal

Robineen wrote: »

I have no recollection of there being much outrage at Ted. I think I'd remember if there was,

I remember there was certainly a number of comments made by the church at the time against Father Ted, it sticks in my memory as even my dad commented on how the church couldn't even laugh at themselves at the time.

I notice you're completing ignoring how Life Of Brian was banned in Ireland, oh and so was The Meaning of Life. Both used satire in relation to core christian/catholic beliefs and they pissed off the religious orders in Ireland and other countrys.

Life Of Brian was released in 1979 but was banned until 1987 at which time they released it as a 18 rating knowing this would limit its viewing. A laughable rating I think we can all agree. (it was later dropped to 15)

Meaning Of Life was released in 1983 but banned until 1990, Ireland had moved on a little in those three years so that got a 15's rating instead.

Neither of which should have been banned in Ireland in the first place,

Cabaal

frostyjacks wrote: »

Tommy Tiernan was mocking Christianity what, ten years ago, when the Church was much more powerful than it is today. It's such an easy, safe target to mock. I want to see comedians target homosexuals, transgenders or refugees. They are the ones who have the power now.

To be fair frostyjacks, you read nazi linked websites so what you want to read or watch is likely very out of touch with the average Joe on the street so what you want to watch doesn't have any demand...except in the small close minded circles you seem to include yourself in.

The avg joe on the street doesn't find mocking somebody's sexuality very amusing, in fact we know from people's voting patterns in Ireland that the majority in Ireland have zero issue with somebody's sexuality and they want to give gay people more rights.

ivytwine

Robineen wrote: »

I have no recollection of there being much outrage at Ted. I think I'd remember if there was, I still remember the Tommy Tiernan furore from the same time period. I don't think it comes across at mocking at all, it's essentially a good-natured show.

The only time I remember outrage at Ted was about the Nazi/racism theme in the episode with the Chinese.

Second Toughest in_the Freshers

Cabaal wrote: »

The avg joe on the street doesn't find mocking Catholicism very amusing, in fact we know from people's voting patterns in Ireland that the majority in Ireland have zero issue with Catholicism and they want to give religious people more rights.

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ivytwine

Cabaal wrote: »

To be fair frostyjacks, you read nazi linked websites so what you want to read or watch is likely very out of touch with the average Joe on the street so what you want to watch doesn't have any demand...except in the small close minded circles you seem to include yourself in.

The avg joe on the street doesn't find mocking somebody's sexuality very amusing, in fact we know from people's voting patterns in Ireland that the majority in Ireland have zero issue with somebody's sexuality and they want to give gay people more rights.

Comedy isn't as funny- and is more likely mean spirited- when it's "punching down". Despite what Frostyjacks thinks, LGBT people and especially refugees, don't have much power in our society.

People like Graham Norton do make light of their own sexuality and the biggest alleged comedy show on Irish and British TV features a man in a dress so.....

ivytwine

Second Toughest in_the Freshers wrote: »

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Did you see that "Mass" event on Facebook late last year? Haunted bread was very very mild compared to some of the gags posted there. And there were thousands of Irish people posting, liking and commenting.

You can't possibly argue the church still commands respect among the vast majority of Irish people, especially under 30s.

infogiver

Robineen wrote: »

Watching something was never an impediment to complaining about it as "moral crusader" Mary Whitehouse ably demonstrated in the UK.

And now we have Geordie Shore and CBB et al so that's much better isn't it?

infogiver

Brian? wrote: »

Is that why they've had shows on ITV, CH4 and MTV?

All top quality TV stations

Brian?

infogiver wrote: »

All top quality TV stations

Did I say they were? I was replying to a post that they were not well received in the UK. So poorly received they kept getting tv series.

Cabaal

Second Toughest in_the Freshers wrote: »

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F Rating on that,
You must try harder.

The avg joe had zero input in banning the 2x movies I've mentioned, so your poor edit of my post was rather flawed.

Also, religious people have rights. They have the rights to discriminate against 4 year olds. That must make them feel big and powerful.
:rolleyes:

Cabaal

infogiver wrote: »

All top quality TV stations

ITV and MTV are certainly dirt but Channel 4 does produce quality programs, Dispatches is one example.

They've also created some classic comedy's such as Father Ted, the world would be a poorer place without such satire.

Of course they also make some awful crap shows but overall they are better then ITV and MTV. Of course as pointed out that is also not the issue for discussion. The claim was there was no interest in the RB but clearly there is.

frostyjacks

Cabaal wrote: »

To be fair frostyjacks, you read nazi linked websites so what you want to read or watch is likely very out of touch with the average Joe on the street so what you want to watch doesn't have any demand...except in the small close minded circles you seem to include yourself in.

The avg joe on the street doesn't find mocking somebody's sexuality very amusing, in fact we know from people's voting patterns in Ireland that the majority in Ireland have zero issue with somebody's sexuality and they want to give gay people more rights.

Given the brillant victory of Trump and the passing of Brexit, I would argue my beliefs are very much in line with the average Joe. Perhaps you need to open your mind a little.

Mocking Catholics? That joke isn't funny anymore. Comedians must try harder.

robindch

frostyjacks wrote: »

I would argue my beliefs are very much in line with the average Joe.

Given that you have written admiringly about a prominent neo-Nazi propaganda web site, I'm quite happy to point out that while your views might be aligned with a non-trivial percentage of Brexit and Trump supporters, they certainly are not the views of the "average Joe" - at least the ones who have the slightest appreciation or knowledge of real, as opposed to made-up, history.

Cabaal

frostyjacks wrote: »

Given the brillant victory of Trump and the passing of Brexit, I would argue my beliefs are very much in line with the average Joe. Perhaps you need to open your mind a little.

Oh, so you're claiming all leave Brexit voters and Trump voters admire neo nazi viewpoints on homosexuals, transgenders or refugees the majority of people share your viewpont? Thats a turn up for the books....but its a deeply flawed viewpoint.

Care to provide some support for this flawed belief? (btw Neo nazi websites aren't proof

btw remember when trying to find proof remember that Hilary won the popular vote which means the MAJORITY who voted in the US election don't actually like Trump at all and most certainly don't share his views

Because Hilary won the popular vote this means your belief that your neo nazi views are shared by the majority is flawed.

Also lets also forget that many Trump voters have since regretted their vote as he's already backpedaled on numerous issues even before tomorrow, many of the people that voted for him didn't vote to do anything about homosexuals, transgenders or refugees....I'm sure a certain percentage of Trump voters were gay so to label them all as hating gay people is rather idiotic.

Many leave Brexit voters were also lied to about money being redirected from EU into the NHS.

Finally, I'd wager that if you approached the avg joe on the street and called them a neo nazi they'd likely be very tempted to punch you in the face. People don't like being labeled as neo nazi loving, you however seem to actually enjoy it.

Mocking Catholics? That joke isn't funny anymore. Comedians must try harder.

Its satire,
It's healthy for society and no religious belief or political view (including neo nazi viewpoints) should ever be above satire,

magicbastarder

frostyjacks wrote: »

Tommy Tiernan was mocking Christianity what, ten years ago, when the Church was much more powerful than it is today. It's such an easy, safe target to mock. I want to see comedians target homosexuals, transgenders or refugees. They are the ones who have the power now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJHzwiYG8bM

donkeykong5

frostyjacks wrote: »

Cabaal wrote: »

To be fair frostyjacks, you read nazi linked websites so what you want to read or watch is likely very out of touch with the average Joe on the street so what you want to watch doesn't have any demand...except in the small close minded circles you seem to include yourself in.

The avg joe on the street doesn't find mocking somebody's sexuality very amusing, in fact we know from people's voting patterns in Ireland that the majority in Ireland have zero issue with somebody's sexuality and they want to give gay people more rights.

Given the brillant victory of Trump and the passing of Brexit, I would argue my beliefs are very much in line with the average Joe. Perhaps you need to open your mind a little.

Mocking Catholics? That joke isn't funny anymore. Comedians must try harder.

Why don't rubber bandits make fun of lgbtwxyz or asexual or transgenders etc etc on late late show. They wouldn't be allowed because of the pc brigade. !