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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,449 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Paully D wrote: »
    Floyd will win this boxing match comfortably, but let's make no mistake about who the real killer is.

    Is that meant to sound menacing?

    You get that a lot with some MMA posters. The real OTT violence kind of implication...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »


    I was trying to think of a halfway rule set between boxing and MMA.

    In the above scenario I think McGregor would have a clear advantage as Mayweather would not have time to even get the basics of MMA down. He may be able to work on some takedown defences and blocking of kicks but I would say McGregor would have an advantage. Would Mayweather be able to knock McGregor out in the first? Its a possibility but if not he could definitely hurt McGregor enough with body shots to effect McGregor's advantages in round 2.

    Its a far more interesting idea than this boxing match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Paully D wrote: »
    Conor would choke Floyd unconscious within 30 seconds under MMA rules. Either that or he'd knock his head off his shoulders with a head kick, or maybe he'd decide to take him down and put his head through the canvas via ground and pound.

    Floyd will win this boxing match comfortably, but let's make no mistake about who the real killer is.

    Terrible shame that it will never happen really...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    This thread has become as much of a farce as the fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    49 other fighters waited for the chance to knock Mayweather out and it never came.

    If this fight is going ahead it's surely because Floyd thinks he will win and if he thinks he will win I'd have complete faith. I'm not his biggest fan I must say and it would be funny to see him lose, but this is just a business transaction and we're the suckers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    If my aunty had balls...

    She'd beat Steffi Graff in tennis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,449 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    49 other fighters waited for the chance to knock Mayweather out and it never came.

    If this fight is going ahead it's surely because Floyd thinks he will win and if he thinks he will win I'd have complete faith. I'm not his biggest fan I must say and it would be funny to see him lose, but this is just a business transaction and we're the suckers.

    Exactly..

    Is Floyd really risking losing his 0 and reputation as a boxer after all these years of hard work and dedication to a complete novice moving over from a different sport?

    He knows it's a piece of cake. I know. Many others know......

    Many others don't.....

    Fook it, we're all suckers being suckered into this con!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Eyes Down Field


    Floyd via DQ
    49 other fighters waited for the chance to knock Mayweather out and it never came.

    If this fight is going ahead it's surely because Floyd thinks he will win and if he thinks he will win I'd have complete faith. I'm not his biggest fan I must say and it would be funny to see him lose, but this is just a business transaction and we're the suckers.

    It's actually 47 fighters he has beaten. He beat Marcos Maidana and Jose Luis Castillo twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    49 other fighters waited for the chance to knock Mayweather out and it never came.

    Including 22 world champions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Conor via DQ
    Anyone think McG side could throw in the towel? Big odds for it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,449 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Anyone think McG side could throw in the towel? Big odds for it.

    Of course. If this is a stoppage win then it's a one shot KO, a referee stoppage or a corner stoppage

    Oh, and a doctor's stoppage due to injury.

    I'd think that the referee stepping in would be the most likely of the options.

    Then the one shot KO, then the corner and then the injury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Yea that loss for Gonzalez really took the sting out of the tail of his reputation in the sport. He and Golovkin were on a roll, fighting on the same cards and extending their respective undefeated records. Gonzalez losing was not part of the plan. I actually watched the fight and I thought Gonzalez was very poor, you can say he was robbed, but for me he didn't do enough to put the fight beyond doubt

    I have heard allot about Inoue. Watching a few of his wins on YouTube. I was hoping Gonzalez might fight him but it never happened. I need to see a dominant performance from Gonzalez in this rematch to believe in him. He has to smash 'what ever his name is' and call out Inoue after his fight, No more of this 'Polite little man from Nicaragua act' Gonzalez needs to grow some balls.
    Good God man. I was with you until I read the last 6 words. Have you heard of boxrec? Go research some Chocolatito. I'll be honest and say the first fight of his I watched was against Brian Viloria which was only about 3 years ago. Anyone reading this should watch Gonzalez vs Cuadras..Tough fight but Gonzalez just kept going against a bigger man, the champ, in his first foray at 115lbs...if you're unsure, don't be..it's forward marching boxing from start to finish. The commentary sucks though.
    I'm open to anyone suggesting an MMA fight that might tempt me to the other side..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Eyes Down Field


    Floyd via DQ
    I know what people are talking about when it comes to the hype being infectious. I feel I know what's going to happen, But I still want to see what happens.

    I've been a Mayweather follower since 2007, So I want to see his last fight, The McGregor aspect is drawing me in to, The fact that he's one of our own and has that confidence is brilliant. The song your man done for McGregor is catchy as fck, absolutely love it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Floyd via DQ
    It's actually 47 fighters he has beaten. He beat Marcos Maidana and Jose Luis Castillo twice.

    Of course officially he has never been beaten, but Castillo was robbed in their first fight. Most people who are neutral accept this. I admire Floyd's skills, but he clearly lost that fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Of course officially he has never been beaten, but Castillo was robbed in their first fight. Most people who are neutral accept this. I admire Floyd's skills, but he clearly lost that fight.

    Definitely his closest fight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Eyes Down Field


    Floyd via DQ
    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Anyone think McG side could throw in the towel? Big odds for it.

    It's possible. But I think Robert Byrd will be stopping the fight as soon as McGregor looks in trouble, Because of the NSAC approving the fight, and with smaller gloves, They won't want to risk Conor getting badly hurt.

    The McGregor corner won't have much of a chance to throw it in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »
    Then I thought, what about alternating rounds (like Chessboxing).

    3 minute rounds. 10 rounds. 1st round Boxing rules, 2nd MMA rules, alternating after that? (assume they can change gloves without issue)
    Who wins?

    That already happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Spot on from Dan Hardy (robbed from Wonder on the MMA thread):

    "“You’ve got to think that, up until the emergence of mixed martial arts, boxers were fighters,” Hardy said. “If you were a boxer, you were considered a fighter, but now you’re not. If you’re a boxer, you’re a boxer, but if you’re an MMA practitioner, you are a fighter. That’s a strong difference there, because a lot of people get into boxing for the tough guy aspect, which is kind of diminished now when there’s someone who can kick you in the leg, take you down and strangle you.

    “It immediately makes them realize how single-minded they’ve been in their approach,” Hardy said. “Not that that’s a problem, because if you choose to be a boxing specialist, I have no issue with that. But don’t claim to be a fighter when you’re only using your fists, because you’re lying to yourself and everybody else.”"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Well, let's never listen to Dan Hardy again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Floyd via DQ
    Stole from Wonder - stopped reading after that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    This Dan Hardy guy is painful to listen to . An almighty chip on his shoulder . It must because boxing in the UK is at it's most popular and nobody in his country knows who he is but still


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    Jesus that's some amount of waffle from Hardy!

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Is it me or is most MMA guys living up to stereotype in the lead up to this . Obsessed by violence and resorting back to street fighting when they are annoyed by someone dismissing Conors boxing ability . Its strange


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Mellor wrote: »
    I think most people more or less agree that Conor has a slim chance in a boxing match and inversely, Floyd has a slim chance in an MMA fight. People have their own (often hyperbolic) definition of the specific chance. Let’s just leave them as being subjective “slim”. I’m not trying to rehash either of those discussions.

    However, because their chances are roughly opposite in either sport, that suggests that there is a midway ruleset that it close to 50/50? I’ve kinda been wondering what that ruleset might be. I think once you start adding various Muay Thai techniques it start to slide towards Conor quickly. But it gets complicated fast.

    Then I thought, what about alternating rounds (like Chessboxing).

    3 minute rounds. 10 rounds. 1st round Boxing rules, 2nd MMA rules, alternating after that? (assume they can change gloves without issue)
    Who wins?

    Hopefully onthe 27th, we can all get over this freak show and dispense with all the hypothetical match making and rule sets and go back to the (existing) sports we love.

    I literally never want to hear how such and such mma guy would get on with boxer x/y/z again. I hope, and am confident that what unfolds on Saturday night will be a definitive statement of where such folly leads...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,449 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Hopefully onthe 27th, we can all get over this freak show and dispense with all the hypothetical match making and rule sets and go back to the (existing) sports we love.

    I literally never want to hear how such and such mma guy would get on with boxer x/y/z again. I hope, and am confident that what unfolds on Saturday night will be a definitive statement of where such folly leads...

    Yeh, but he'd beat Canelo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭MojoRisinnnn


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    In the above scenario I think McGregor would have a clear advantage as Mayweather would not have time to even get the basics of MMA down. He may be able to work on some takedown defences and blocking of kicks but I would say McGregor would have an advantage. Would Mayweather be able to knock McGregor out in the first? Its a possibility but if not he could definitely hurt McGregor enough with body shots to effect McGregor's advantages in round 2.

    Its a far more interesting idea than this boxing match.

    An MMA fight or a hybrid between the two would be even more one sided than this upcoming fight may be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    An MMA fight or a hybrid between the two would be even more one sided than this upcoming fight may be.

    May be ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    May be ?

    See if its in the MMA then apparently Mayweather has no chance but if it's in boxing then their hero Conor has a great chance cause he's a hard man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,449 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    See if its in the MMA then apparently Mayweather has no chance but if it's in boxing then their hero Conor has a great chance cause he's a hard man.

    A killer who can tear off limbs and strangle you to death apparently!

    Oh, and Floyd hasn't a hope because once in an Octagon he ceases to be of any use whatsoever, even with MMA prep and training.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    A killer who can tear off limbs and strangle you to death apparently!

    Oh, and Floyd hasn't a hope because once in an Octagon he ceases to be of any use whatsoever, even with MMA prep and training.

    I find it all pretty hilarious really.

    At the end of the day none of them would beat Stephen Seagal and anyone who thinks they would is just being stupid.


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