The Tommy Tiernan Show Thread - Mod warning, see OP

Lady Chatterton

This show is a bit of craic unlike the misery on the LLS & The Ray D'arcy Show. In fairness to Tiernan, he tries to get the best out of his guests without making hard work of it.

Bigus

Absolutely cracking show tonight , will go down as a classic , first part anyway, I was looking forward to it and he didn't disappoint.

Lady Chatterton

Christ, at times it feels like half the country is on anti-depressants

Lady Chatterton

This is a very interesting discussion.

sligojoek

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Christ, at times it feels like half the country is on anti-depressants

It's the other half Id be worried about.

Great start. I love Paddy and John. As always, Tommy sat back and let them flow. Very little interruption. And nobody is selling anything.

Mr. Incognito

Fair play for Tommy for calling him out on soundbites

Where do we go for healing...

Ummm friends, family, phone services, dodge dodge waffle waffle

Lady Chatterton

Tommy has a great brain, he seems to have the ability to talk to everyone, regardless of of their background or intellectual level.

So impressed with this

Mr. Incognito

Tommy is a far far superior interviewer than anything rte have.

Comes across as disarming, allows people to speak and listens and responds intelligently and not deferrential

Stravos Murphy

Good show tonight and hello Lisa.

price690

Poor Lisa doesn't know what to make of Tommy.

kifi

Don't normally post about TV programs, but I have watched this show since it began and am thoroughly enjoying it. Tommy is excellent.

FrancieBrady

Turnng into a very entertaining oft time thought provoking show. Due to the hosts intelligence.
It is what the Late Late Show 'thinks' it is.

RayM

It's only when you watch this that you realise the extent to which Tubridy and D'Arcy are both stealing a living.

Gen.Zhukov

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Tommy is a far far superior interviewer than anything rte have.

Comes across as disarming, allows people to speak and listens and responds intelligently and not deferrential

I'd agree totally. It does make me wonder though, just how much in the dark he actually is, re who's coming on ?

Rothko

Very good show tonight. Even when the topics got heavy, it didn't feel depressing or like the misery porn that stuff like the late late seem to be obsessed about.

FrancieBrady

1.618 wrote: »

I'd agree totally. It does make me wonder though, just how much in the dark he actually is, re who's coming on ?

I'm not sure I care to be honest. I think for instance Norton works on the pretence that the red chair is 'live' or rather the show pretends it is. But you are not gonna hear anything the BBC doesn't want you to hear, if that makes sense.
It is just a gimmick at the end of the day and I absolutely love the way he feels his way into the conversation. A bit like meeting someone on a train who fascinates you. A genuine interest in people helps him.

Lady Chatterton

Tiernan has covered heavy issues - i.e Christy Dignam's cancer and Depression. However, he manages to do it in a way you WANT to listen to what is being said, they don't seem like misery items because he injects humour and some positivity into each discussion.

sligojoek

1.618 wrote: »

I'd agree totally. It does make me wonder though, just how much in the dark he actually is, re who's coming on ?

I thought that last week when Darcy was on. A convenient platform to contradict his critics. I'm guessing Tommy knew about Brendan Kelly but not the others tonight.

FrancieBrady

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Tiernan has covered heavy issues - i.e Christy Dignam's cancer and Depression. However, he manages to do it in a way you WANT to listen to what is being said, they don't seem like misery items.

Probably because of the fact that even in darkness their is humour. His injection about 'love' was classic, real conversation flow.

Samsgirl

Tonight's show far surpassed anything the lls could do. Tommy really is a far better interviewer that Tubs. No script, no cards, lets the guest speak most importantly - listens.
Well done Tommy Tiernan.

Gen.Zhukov

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I'm not sure I care to be honest. I think for instance Norton works on the pretence that the red chair is 'live' or rather the show pretends it is. But you are not gonna hear anything the BBC doesn't want you to hear, if that makes sense.
It is just a gimmick at the end of the day and I absolutely love the way he feels his way into the conversation. A bit like meeting someone on a train who fascinates you. A genuine interest in people helps him.

Not too bothered myself either. It was a good show tonight. Best so far. Probably natural enough for TT to need time to get comfy in the role.

sligojoek wrote: »

I thought that last week when Darcy was on. A convenient platform to contradict his critics. I'm guessing Tommy knew about Brendan Kelly but not the others tonight.

Yep, that's the one that got me thinking.

sligojoek

1.618 wrote: »

Not too bothered myself either. It was a good show tonight. Best so far. Probably natural enough for TT to need time to get comfy in the role.



Yep, that's the one that got me thinking.

As the credits rolled we got the "If you have been affected by....."

Why would RTE bother to stick that on as an afterthought.

Gen.Zhukov

sligojoek wrote: »

As the credits rolled we got the "If you have been affected by....."

Why would RTE bother to stick that on as an afterthought.

It does seem to be standard these days. Tbh, I think it's right. Someone watching the depression slot, could be nudged 'just that tiny bit more' from seeing the interview and relating to it...just that little bit more.

Big Bag of Chips

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think for instance Norton works on the pretence that the red chair is 'live' or rather the show pretends it is. But you are not gonna hear anything the BBC doesn't want you to hear

The whole show is pre-recorded. They don't pretend it isn't!

Joe_ Public

It doesn't matter much but Tommy obviously knew the country singer was appearing and that she was going to be singing. Anyway nothing more to say other than to echo nearly every other previous comment. I didn't think it possible that you could have an entertaining chat show anymore but Tommy took my cynicism and shoved it back down my throat. Enjoyed every single minute of it and already can't wait for next week.

FrancieBrady

Big Bag of Chips wrote: »

The whole show is pre-recorded. They don't pretend it isn't!

Yes I know.
But the impression is given that anything might be said. But its a 'construct' that everyone plays along with, including the audience and guests.
Like quiz shows or shows like Have I Got News For You, the construct is, 'what you see is everything that happened', seamlessly. It isn't, it's heavily edited.

Big Bag of Chips

Anything might be said live during the recording though, and then edited out afterwards. That's not new, or nobody pretends it doesn't happen.

Shurimgreat

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Tiernan has covered heavy issues - i.e Christy Dignam's cancer and Depression. However, he manages to do it in a way you WANT to listen to what is being said, they don't seem like misery items because he injects humour and some positivity into each discussion.

Agreed Lady Chatterton. As I said in an earlier post, Tommy is a natural at this. He can do the light hearted and also the heavy issues and knows where the laughs are and when to let the guest talk.

There is something very anti PC about Tommy. He doesn't give a damn what people think, he doesn't care how this will go down with the RTE Board on a Monday morning. He doesn't come across as an RTE insider worried about the next big gig. He's not your usual "canteen" person, back slapping away other "canteen" folks. He says it like he sees it, usually uncensored and that makes him a rarity in RTE.

Fair play to RTE for giving him this show, lets hope they don't panic and take it off air after a series or two. Generally they do that with anything half decent.

sligojoek

Id love to see the out-takes section of the show.

price690

This show won't last folks, if it gets alot of praise then RTE will think, great.

If it starts to shine at light on the Late Late Show or Ray Darcy then it will be axed.

I don't think Tommy Tiernan would be up for the regular gig every Friday night though.

Jaysus imagine he knew who his guests were going to be and he could prepare?

The best thing about him is that he has a presence and his guests thus far knew who he was and its like he already has their respect. He can ask whatever he likes and be a cheeky f*cker but he does it with charm and warmth.

Its a terrific show

Agricola

Just want to join the Tommy T appreciation society here. A fantastic job tonight. You could tell that he was really salivating at the thought of getting stuck into that psychiatrist! A subject close to his heart. That's the key difference between him and pretenders like Tubs and to a lesser extent Ray D'arcy. Tommy has a curious mind and is genuinely interested in unraveling topics and getting under people's skin. The hallmark of a true interviewer. His wit and easy humour is just the icing on the cake.

FrancieBrady

Big Bag of Chips wrote: »

Anything might be said live during the recording though, and then edited out afterwards. That's not new, or nobody pretends it doesn't happen.

Yes. But they do pretend it is live, mostly. Norton's guests will sometimes slip up and say something that reveals it isn't live. He choses to let it go and laugh at it, but the quiz's and HIGNFY would edit it out. Just a construct for the willing suspension of disbelief, same as Tiernans one. No biggie at the end of the day,the conversation is interesting or it isn't.

sligojoek

As I said earlier I can take or leave Tommy. My daughter has me converted. Another thing I like is how he's not leaning across a desk like a headmaster or a managing director. He's sitting back and engaging with the audience. Tubridy tries to do the same slapping his hips and the desk trying to do the same and fails miserably.

Duggie2012

whats the story with the set though, its atrocious. and the bit sitting round the table with the other two guys. not funny atal.

realdanbreen

Bigus wrote: »

Absolutely cracking show tonight , will go down as a classic , first part anyway, I was looking forward to it and he didn't disappoint.

Are you serious?
It was an edited recorded interview with two guys who are on our screens several times a year. What do we know about them today that we didn't know last week?

AnneFrank

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Fair play for Tommy for calling him out on soundbites

Where do we go for healing...

Ummm friends, family, phone services, dodge dodge waffle waffle

he also didn't mention how expensive it is to see people like him, it's beyond most peoples means, especially those that are struggling mentally already. I found his idea of containment very interesting, and i'm sure he could help alot of people, but at what cost, 100 euro per 45 minute session ?

Bigus

realdanbreen wrote: »

Are you serious?
It was an edited recorded interview with two guys who are on our screens several times a year. What do we know about them today that we didn't know last week?

I don't know what you're watching but I've haven't seen the chieftains and Dubliners live together for years , probably because they're mostly passed away, which could have been very morose on Tubs or D'arcy.
What I saw was ;
Genuine rapport ,love and respect between three intelligent people going both ways.

Impromptu use of two musical instruments by world class stars, egged on by the bould Tommy , a few, very funny low balls and quick replies, all unrehearsed.

And to cap it all Tommy crowning the lads "elders of our tribe"

As for what " Did we know about them that We didn't know last week "

I never heard the funny side before and I was royally entertained , especially the way the two tin whistles were pulled out of the inside pockets and made sound ridiculously good, and all good humoured and the definition of Craic.

I'm glad I don't look at the world through cynical eyes anymore life's to short and the winter too dark .

That's what I was watching, and the I'm glad I did, as did my 2 sons in their 20's

The Three of us haven't laughed as much together in years .

Mr. Incognito

AnneFrank wrote: »

he also didn't mention how expensive it is to see people like him, it's beyond most peoples means, especially those that are struggling mentally already. I found his idea of containment very interesting, and i'm sure he could help alot of people, but at what cost, 100 euro per 45 minute session ?

Thats an unqualified counsellor rate

Shrinks in Ireland are about €300 an hour

AnneFrank

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Thats an unqualified counsellor rate

Shrinks in Ireland are about €300 an hour

jesus you're kidding, no wonder antidepressants are the popular choice at 5 euro per month

realdanbreen

Bigus wrote: »

I don't know what you're watching but I've haven't seen the chieftains and Dubliners live together for years , probably because they're mostly passed away, which could have been very morose on Tubs or D'arcy.
What I saw was ;
Genuine rapport ,love and respect between three intelligent people going both ways.

Impromptu use of two musical instruments by world class stars, egged on by the bould Tommy , a few, very funny low balls and quick replies, all unrehearsed.

And to cap it all Tommy crowning the lads "elders of our tribe"

As for what " Did we know about them that We didn't know last week "

I never heard the funny side before and I was royally entertained , especially the way the two tin whistles were pulled out of the inside pockets and made sound ridiculously good, and all good humoured and the definition of Craic.

I'm glad I don't look at the world through cynical eyes anymore life's to short and the winter too dark .

That's what I was watching, and the I'm glad I did, as did my 2 sons in their 20's

The Three of us haven't laughed as much together in years .

Wow! Were ye smoking something by any chance!

Kerrydude1981

The best thing about this show is that its all informal

Its nice and relaxed

Tommy for the Late Late Show job,get Tubs out

Joe_ Public

Duggie2012 wrote: »

whats the story with the set though, its atrocious. and the bit sitting round the table with the other two guys. not funny atal.

It's very minimalist alright, evoking the old curtain style sets of the 70s and 80s, I like it. There's none of the cod US tv style format with the big desk and sofas, just two chairs and the instant rapport the host seems to be able to strike instantly with his guests, no faux laughter or fake gravitas as practiced by the likes of Tubridy or D'Arcy. As interesting as the guests might be, the show stands or falls on the host's personality and needs no props or gimmicks to artificially boost it. Let's see if the high standard is maintained in subsequent shows. Right now, I'm a big fan.

deadanonymau5

AnneFrank wrote: »

jesus you're kidding, no wonder antidepressants are the popular choice at 5 euro per month

5 euro a month? Where did you get that from?

My brothers cost 53 euro a month.

Lady Chatterton

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Christ, at times it feels like half the country is on anti-depressants

sligojoek wrote: »

It's the other half Id be worried about.

I agree Joe. I have family and friends who have benefited greatly from being on anti-depressants. Some of whom tried various therapies but medication seemed to work best for them.

However, I sometimes feel that anti-depressants are being over prescribed by GPs because of the significant barriers that exist in this country when it comes to accessing good quality talk therapy/counselling services. There are often lengthy waiting lists for these services and understandably a GP can't always take the chance of leaving their patient without some type of treatment in the intervening time.

As for attending psychologists/psychiatrists, the cost can be prohibitive, many charge between €200 and €300 per appointment. While there is great work being done by organisations like Pieta House, the vast majority of people with depression, aren't suicidal but they do need some support. The HSE are running expensive ad campaigns encouraging people to talk but this is of no use if the services aren't there for those who need them.

JoeA3

Watching this on the player now as I couldn't take anymore of Tubs and his fidgeting with his cue cards.
I must say, I've never been a fan of Tiernan, but I'm really impressed with this show. Whether genuine or not, he seems so relaxed and off the cuff with the interviews. The segment with the 2 ol bucks from the chieftains was great.
Have RTE stumbled on a good format here with a decent host or am I the only one?

It's frankly amazing that the LLS thread on here gets more posts for one show than this thread has for the entire series. Seems the worse the show is the more popular the boards thread...

sligojoek

The LLS thread get more posts cos people come on to take the piss out of it. This thread is short on posts but full of praise.

Joe_ Public

ts the sh"t paradigm of the twisted world we live in. The worst shows, the corniest videos, the worst newspaper articles - the poisonous click bait - generate the most hysterical and sustained reaction, mostly through disgust and outrage, and the bosses lap it all up because they know it will help them attract more advertising revenue. Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, the cycle perpetuates and abject mediocrity takes over. Yeats kind of foreshadowed it when he wrote "the best lack all conviction while the worst are full of passionate intensity."

Kerrydude1981

sligojoek wrote: »

The LLS thread get more posts cos people come on to take the piss out of it. This thread is short on posts but full of praise.

Excatly,the LLS at the moment is outdated and most weeks there is more craic on the LLS thread then there is on the programme

Tubridys interview style is predictable and doesnt make for great TV

Tommy is fresh to the game and just goes with the flow

CatFromHue

I don't think it's fair to compare TLL and Tommy's show.

For a start if Christy Dignam, Vogue Williams, and a random English comedian were guests on TLL people would be kicking up about how ****e the guest list was.

Tommy also benefits big time from his show not being live so they can edit it to make it better. Someone posted on here earlier in the thread about being in the crowd for one of the interviews and it was nowhere as good live as the edited version.