General sheep thread

DJ98

memorystick wrote: »

Stupid question. Do sheep races have to be fixed to the ground if they’ve a pen at each end? Sick of catching store lambs on my own to dose and inject and mark twice.

What type of race have you got memorystick?

wrangler

memorystick wrote: »

Stupid question. Do sheep races have to be fixed to the ground if they’ve a pen at each end? Sick of catching store lambs on my own to dose and inject and mark twice.

If the race is pinned to the big pens and the big pens don't move thats all you want.
Two ewes trying to get in together will move it if it's not secured

Lambman

Ay good idea Wrangler was doing a bitta reading up on training there obviously sit and stay is the main ones you teach before anything else and when u throw toys or a ball use the commands as till which direction you throw it come by for left away for right and let the dog get used till them least i can do all this for now without putting her off or getting hurt. Have her with me everyday she'll run up till the sheep and run back till me not showing no real interest in them as yet just curiosity I'd say.

memorystick

DJ98 wrote: »

What type of race have you got memorystick?

Pallets and tinkers gates and get them tight in a corner but it’s a pain in the hole.


https://www.donedeal.ie/sheep-for-sale/stockmaster-r90-red-line-sheep-race/22265880




Was thinking of getting something like this. Do I need to bolt these to the ground? They’d be perfect for me with a big pen at each end. Only store lambs. Thanks





Cracked screen. See below

memorystick

https://www.donedeal.ie/sheep-for-sale/stockmaster-r90-red-line-sheep-race/22265880

wrangler

Lambman wrote: »

Ay good idea Wrangler was doing a bitta reading up on training there obviously sit and stay is the main ones you teach before anything else and when u throw toys or a ball use the commands as till which direction you throw it come by for left away for right and let the dog get used till them least i can do all this for now without putting her off or getting hurt. Have her with me everyday she'll run up till the sheep and run back till me not showing no real interest in them as yet just curiosity I'd say.

Never had a sheepdog that'd chase a ball, a few hens is good crack for a pup that's keen

Ard_MC

Lambman wrote: »

Ay good idea Wrangler was doing a bitta reading up on training there obviously sit and stay is the main ones you teach before anything else and when u throw toys or a ball use the commands as till which direction you throw it come by for left away for right and let the dog get used till them least i can do all this for now without putting her off or getting hurt. Have her with me everyday she'll run up till the sheep and run back till me not showing no real interest in them as yet just curiosity I'd say.

Have a lovely wee bitch pup here at the same stage here. Wouldnt put to much pressure on her with work till least 10 months.

Have her sittin and lyin and a good recall. But cant get the stay command progress yet!

Siamsa Sessions

Is it 2 weeks or 4 weeks pre-lambing people give the booster vaccine?

wrangler

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

Is it 2 weeks or 4 weeks pre-lambing people give the booster vaccine?

4 -6 weeks

Siamsa Sessions

wrangler wrote: »

4 -6 weeks

Thanks - trying to get organised here and my mind went blank

Hard Knocks

What address do you send the pink slip to for Farm to Farm movement
Is it the one on the envelope (Celbridge Kildare)?

wrangler

There was TRu Test clock stolen off a scales in wexford if any one is offered one

Siamsa Sessions

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What address do you send the pink slip to for Farm to Farm movement
Is it the one on the envelope (Celbridge Kildare)?

Check with local Dept office. I send mine in there but might be different for different counties. Or different depending on who you talk to! So, better to check

Tileman

Hard Knocks wrote: »

What address do you send the pink slip to for Farm to Farm movement
Is it the one on the envelope (Celbridge Kildare)?

To your local dvo . Just google the address that covers your county. Only a few of gem now.

DJ98

How much meal would rams want to keep them ticking over for the winter?

Siamsa Sessions

DJ98 wrote: »

How much meal would rams want to keep them ticking over for the winter?

We give them nothing here as long as they have a pick of grass. They get a fistful of cubes for a few days when removed from the ewes, but that's to keep them content and close to the shed as much as build up their condition.

wrangler

DJ98 wrote: »

How much meal would rams want to keep them ticking over for the winter?

We gave them half a kilo/day each last year and they were fine, There was five on an acre and grass seemed to be growing all winter.
I'm going to do the same again this year, they might need a bit of straw for roughage as I don't think grass'll be growing as good this year.
I'd be watching condition all along but they can afford to lose a bit if they;re in good condition now, they pick up condition very quick once grass starts to grow in april.
If I had any doubts Id increase to a kilo for a while,I use a lamb finisher meal or an intensive lamb, something without magnesium or calcium

wrangler

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

We give them nothing here as long as they have a pick of grass. They get a fistful of cubes for a few days when removed from the ewes, but that's to keep them content and close to the shed as much as build up their condition.

What sort of stocking rate/acre would that be at.

Siamsa Sessions

wrangler wrote: »

What sort of stocking rate/acre would that be at.

Roughly a ram to the acre between now and March

wrangler

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

Roughly a ram to the acre between now and March

They don't need much.
We should have a lot less rams but cant stop OH from buying them, There's a few ould ones from the original flock here too, we've four now, two will be finishing next year

Ard_MC

wrangler wrote: »

We gave them half a kilo/day each last year and they were fine, There was five on an acre and grass seemed to be growing all winter.
I'm going to do the same again this year, they might need a bit of straw for roughage as I don't think grass'll be growing as good this year.
I'd be watching condition all along but they can afford to lose a bit if they;re in good condition now, they pick up condition very quick once grass starts to grow in april.
If I had any doubts Id increase to a kilo for a while,I use a lamb finisher meal or an intensive lamb, something without magnesium or calcium

Same as that here. Be in a 2 acre field tho out of the way.

DJ98

Ard_MC wrote: »

Same as that here. Be in a 2 acre field tho out of the way.

Rams here are housed uo until the start of lambing, shifted out then to make room for ewes and lambs

roosky

Hi all,

I bought a few feed barriers off leam Agri in Fermanagh but they are made by o donnell in tip.

My issue is that there is €300+ of vat to claim back but I can’t claim it because it was paid in the North and the uk vat number won’t work with revenue.

Does anyone know how I could get around this or is it a lost cause !

TIA

Ard_MC

roosky wrote: »

Hi all,

I bought a few feed barriers off leam Agri in Fermanagh but they are made by o donnell in tip.

My issue is that there is €300+ of vat to claim back but I can’t claim it because it was paid in the North and the uk vat number won’t work with revenue.

Does anyone know how I could get around this or is it a lost cause !

TIA

I'd say it's a lost cause to be honest.

wrangler

Ard_MC wrote: »

I'd say it's a lost cause to be honest.

You should be able to get vat back, if you were registered for vat you can get it back from any where in the EU Iknow a oerson that gets vat back on diabled and he's not registered...... your accountant will know any way

roosky

wrangler wrote: »

You should be able to get vat back, if you were registered for vat you can get it back from any where in the EU Iknow a oerson that gets vat back on diabled and he's not registered...... your accountant will know any way

Unregistered farmer unfortunately.....might be a dear lesson !

Lambman

Anybody scanning yet? Fella that keeps a few sheep for his young boys and gets lend of my ram b4 I need him scanned today 16 doubles 2 singles 2 empty. Never asked him but pretty sure he's early enough scanning so them 2 could be in lamb. Was a good scanning for him all hoggets and 2nd lambers Suffolk x

wrangler

roosky wrote: »

Unregistered farmer unfortunately.....might be a dear lesson !

There it is discussed on another forum. your supplier should've been more helpful

http://www.forum4farming.com/forum/index.php?threads/reclaiming-vat-in-northern-ireland.17788/

arctictree

Lads, how long do ye keep the Rams tight for? 2 days enough? Thanks

orm0nd

arctictree wrote: »

Lads, how long do ye keep the Rams tight for? 2 days enough? Thanks

usually a day here