Why has there never been an Irish Pope?

DEFTLEFTHAND

uch wrote: »

Actually Allah just means God in Arabic, not a particular god, just God in general

All the Abrahamic Faiths believe in the same God.

Jews, the Chosen People.

Christians, the word of Jesus Christ and the New Testament.

Muslims, the final word of God given to the Prophet Mohammed via Angel Gabriel. The literal word of God.

LynnGrace

LynnGrace wrote: »

John Magee, I think.

Mister Magee, don't make me angry. You wouldn't like it when I'm angry.

uch

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

All the Abrahamic Faiths believe in the same God.

Jews, the Chosen People.

Christians, the word of Jesus Christ and the New Testament.

Muslims, the final word of God given to the Prophet Mohammed via Angel Gabriel. The literal word of God.

Agreed, so why are you picking out the word Allah to be different ? It's just a word for God in Arabic, we say God, muslims say Allah and I'm sure every religion has different words for God, why pick one to stir shíte

topmanamillion

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It won't be gone, In 100 years Islam will be the dominant faith in Europe.

The Caliphate will be realised and the Brothers of the Book (Jews & Christians) will conform to the final word of God Almighty. Allah.

Nah it will all be seen for what it is.......BS.
The middle east is in ashes following rubbish.
America is in bits following rubbish.
Europe isn't any better off.
At some point people will realise all they've got to do is think for themselves and forget about ancient books full of gibberish, racism, homophobia and sexism.

Women are the chosen sex for me and that's coming from a man. Western women used to freedom will never conform to Wahhabism, veils or any other crap.

DEFTLEFTHAND

uch wrote: »

Agreed, so why are you picking out the word Allah to be different ? It's just a word for God in Arabic, we say God, muslims say Allah and I'm sure every religion has different words for God, why pick one to stir shíte

I don't think anything is different about it. God is Allah, God is Love.

A friend of mine gave me a copy of the Quran to read last month and it has changed my views on things. It's the literal word of God Almighty.

The final word of the Almighty.

Islam is the true word. All brothers of the book should conform to the word of God.

Heraldoffreeent

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I don't think anything is different about it. God is Allah, God is Love.

A friend of mine gave me a copy of the Quran to read last month and it has changed my views on things. It's the literal word of God Almighty.

The final word of the Almighty.

Islam is the true word. All brothers of the book should conform to the word of God.

Jaysis!!!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

Jaysis!!!

'Jaysis', Jesus of Nazareth is also a prophet of Islam.

SixSixSix

To be honest all religions are full of profits!

Beanntraigheach

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

One of the strongest Catholic countries in Europe.

I think Eamon Casey would have been close if he didn't piss everybody in the Vatican and got sent back to Cork. Casey served as Camerlengo for two separate Pontiffs. He ran the RCC in the interim period between Popes.

If an Irishman every is elected I hope he takes the name, Pope Patrick I.

Pope Columbanus I. Sounds cool

Lucy8080

Pope Damo for me.

Is he the Anti-Christ or,worse yet, is he a Dub?

We'd get new omen films, an alliance between Protestants and Catholics from outside Dublin, Cork might secede, and Kerry folk would have to kiss his ring or take the soup.

Let's make this happen!

Riva10

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It wasn't Casey either. Who was the Vatican bigshot (twice Camerlingo) who got himself demoted back to Cobh as a Bishop?

Just can't of his name at the moment?

McGee is the name you are looking for and he was ran out of Cobh as well

Riva10

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I don't think anything is different about it. God is Allah, God is Love.

A friend of mine gave me a copy of the Quran to read last month and it has changed my views on things. It's the literal word of God Almighty.

The final word of the Almighty.

Islam is the true word. All brothers of the book should conform to the word of God.

Another poor soul for the virgins. :P

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

The marriage rule needs to be done away with. Look at the Protestants, they are thriving and we are sinking.

Very true. No 'vocations' issue for churches with married clergy.

I think Maynooth had 7 or 8 this year, not 25.

Riva10

Deleted User wrote: »

Very true. No 'vocations' issue for churches with married clergy.

I think Maynooth had 7 or 8 this year, not 25.

The "no marriage rule" in the Catholic Church is there for one reason only. That reason is MONEY. Think about it. What ever allowance a priest is entitled to would have to be doubled or trebled if he had a (official) family. Result Less For Rome.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Deleted User wrote: »

Very true. No 'vocations' issue for churches with married clergy.

I think Maynooth had 7 or 8 this year, not 25.

Sure they may as well close the doors at that rate.

The Church here have a serious problem developing in the next ten years or so.

DanMurphy

There was a magazine called Crime & Punishment back in the '70s, and it stated that a Pope was buried in Wicklow, Ireland, and gave the full story of his background, exact place of burial, etc but I forget the tale.

uch

DanMurphy wrote: »

There was a magazine called Crime & Punishment back in the '70s, and it stated that a Pope was buried in Wicklow, Ireland, and gave the full story of his background, exact place of burial, etc but I forget the tale.

But we could make up a good song about it surely

JupiterKid

Simple. Ireland just did not have enough political clout in the Vatican for an Irish pope to even be considered. We may have been an unbelievably devout country in the past, but the Vatican just threw us scraps. It's all about power, control and influence and very little to do with love and empathy.

Given the way the church has nosedived in Ireland and continues to do so, I don't see an Irish Pope any time soon.

Capt'n Midnight

To add insult to injury Pope Adrian IV was English.

elperello

There was an Irish man elected as pope but he stood down after two days.

http://www.irishtimes.com/the-laois-man-who-was-elected-pope-1.1320246

indioblack

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

To add insult to injury Pope Adrian IV was English.

Nicholas Breakspear, if memory serves me right.
This would have been before the Reformation.

feargale

Luke Wadding (1588–1657): the only Irishman to receive votes in a papal conclave

The_Valeyard

elperello wrote: »

There was an Irish man elected as pope but he stood down after two days.

http://www.irishtimes.com/the-laois-man-who-was-elected-pope-1.1320246

Thats a very interesting read. Cheers for that.