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Why has there never been an Irish Pope?

  • 24-12-2016 05:29AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭


    One of the strongest Catholic countries in Europe.

    I think Eamon Casey would have been close if he didn't piss everybody in the Vatican and got sent back to Cork. Casey served as Camerlengo for two separate Pontiffs. He ran the RCC in the interim period between Popes.

    If an Irishman every is elected I hope he takes the name, Pope Patrick I.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Didas


    One of the strongest Catholic countries in Europe.

    I think Eamon Casey would have been close if he didn't piss everybody in the Vatican and got sent back to Cork. Casey served as Camerlengo for two separate Pontiffs. He ran the RCC in the interim period between Popes.

    If an Irishman every is elected I hope he takes the name, Pope Patrick I.

    They'll have to do it soon, before Irish priests die out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It wasn't Casey either. Who was the Vatican bigshot (twice Camerlingo) who got himself demoted back to Cobh as a Bishop?

    Just can't of his name at the moment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    tonygun wrote: »
    They'll have to do it soon, before Irish priests die out

    I've heard it's desperate all right. I think St Patricks in Maynooth had only about 25 ordained this year.

    Francis needs to call a new Vatican Council.

    The marriage rule needs to be done away with. Look at the Protestants, they are thriving and we are sinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    The fecking Jesuits have it all tied up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    The marriage rule needs to be done away with. Look at the Protestants, they are thriving and we are sinking.

    Don't know about that. Difficult to find any figures on Irish protestants but British service attendances have been steadily declining over the last number of years.

    The reality is as technology and science make ever increasing leaps people realise they`ll find more "answers" in a Delia Smith cook book than they will in a 2000 year old book written by people that didn't have the benefit of basic scientific principles we now take for granted, such as the earth is round.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Because only like 2 Popes in the last 400 odd years weren't Italian


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭GreenFolder2


    It's hard to beat Delia's water to wine receipe - saved me a fortune this Xmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭amtc


    I think that you have to be named after a saint and St Patrick was withdrawn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    amtc wrote: »
    I think that you have to be named after a saint and St Patrick was withdrawn.


    Never knew that. Great bit of Trivia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    amtc wrote: »
    I think that you have to be named after a saint and St Patrick was withdrawn.
    I am curious. Is St Patrick no longer a saint?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Advbrd wrote: »
    I am curious. Is St Patrick no longer a saint?
    Yeah, they found out he may have embellished the whole snake banishing incident.


  • Posts: 32,956 [Deleted User]


    Pope Git sounds good to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    One of the strongest Catholic countries in Europe.

    .

    Going by the census are you?

    There should be the question "do you practice this religion". 99% would say NO.

    I think in 100 years, all religion will be gone apart from the few nutters in the Middle East and the belt in America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Because the feckin Jesuits have it wrapped up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Yeah, they found out he may have embellished the whole snake banishing incident.

    Wait until they look into saint Bridget :pac:




    **do we still get to celebrate paddy's day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    It wasn't Casey either. Who was the Vatican bigshot (twice Camerlingo) who got himself demoted back to Cobh as a Bishop?

    Just can't of his name at the moment?

    John Magee, I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    tonygun wrote: »
    They'll have to do it soon, before Irish priests die out
    Sounds like a cushy number these days. Throw water at auld ones, let the lay people do the masses, turn up for the hatch, match and dispatch but spend the rest of the time on "important" missionary work in the costa del sin.

    Free wine and a house keeper!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    catbear wrote: »
    Sounds like a cushy number these days. Throw water at auld ones, let the lay people do the masses, turn up for the hatch, match and dispatch but spend the rest of the time on "important" missionary work in the costa del sin.

    Free wine and a house keeper!

    That is the truth! Know a guy that is now a priest. Has more money than I do!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭D0NNELLY


    tonygun wrote: »
    They'll have to do it soon, before Irish priests die out

    Fr. Ted died so young. That put the kibosh to an Irish winner of Pope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,490 ✭✭✭amtc


    Yeah just checked with the parish priest. My mother is on a flight later and had this idea to make confession. Honestly. He was very accommodating and did it over Facetime.

    Anyway apparently the Second Vatican Council limited saints so when they wanted new ones they effectively retired old ones whose miracles couldn't be proven, so St Patrick's, St Philo menace were retired
    As was St Christopher, patron saint of travellers which didn't please my mam!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    There will never be an Irish Pope. Christianity's intrusion of Ireland is nearing an end. As a foreign religion it has outstayed its welcome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    There will never be an Irish Pope. Christianity's intrusion of Ireland is nearing an end. As a foreign religion it has outstayed its welcome.
    Back to dancing naked in the fields in winter. Looking forward to that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Yeah, they found out he may have embellished the whole snake banishing incident.

    Raping Kids ; sure we'll just move you up the road.

    Lying about snakes : we'll remove your sainthood.

    Logic of the Catholic Church, you'd need to be a firm believer / gob****e to swallow it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    There will never be an Irish Pope. Christianity's intrusion of Ireland is nearing an end. As a foreign religion it has outstayed its welcome.
    Me thinks you are assuming Christianity = Catholicism. On the contrary, Christianities impact in Ireland is increasing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Advbrd


    Me thinks you are assuming Christianity = Catholicism. On the contrary, Christianities impact in Ireland is increasing.
    Yeah, it is a common misconception in this country.
    How is Christianities impact in Ireland increasing? Personally, I think it is waning with less people attending church in general. It will be interesting to compare the census figures with the previous set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,048 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    How can they knock St Patrick off the list?
    I still haven't saw a snake in the wild in Ireland so that proves his miracle to me anyhow.
    Feicin Italians rigging things again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Fr. Eugene Paterson was seen as an up-and-coming young star in the priesthood at the start of the 20th century. Had a real swagger about him and did a stint in Rome where he worked alongside the future Pope Pius XII in the Vatican Secretariat of State. Definitely cardinal materiaal and who knows after that. Alas, he became extremely fond of wine, returned back to Ireland,and eventually lived a short life of relative squalor while trying to run a small parish in Connemara. He succumbed to complications arising from his alcoholism and died before he hit 50.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭SixSixSix


    If an Irishman every is elected I hope he takes the name, Pope Patrick I.

    Why pick a name of a Welshman?

    Anyway by the time it happens it might be Deirdre 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    prinzeugen wrote: »
    Going by the census are you?

    There should be the question "do you practice this religion". 99% would say NO.

    I think in 100 years, all religion will be gone apart from the few nutters in the Middle East and the belt in America.

    It won't be gone, In 100 years Islam will be the dominant faith in Europe.

    The Caliphate will be realised and the Brothers of the Book (Jews & Christians) will conform to the final word of God Almighty. Allah.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,022 ✭✭✭uch


    It won't be gone, In 100 years Islam will be the dominant faith in Europe.

    The Caliphate will be realised and the Brothers of the Book (Jews & Christians) will conform to the final word of God Almighty. Allah.

    Actually Allah just means God in Arabic, not a particular god, just God in general

    21/25



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