Boy Racers

Kal El

So back in the day the racer scene was all about, but finished thankfully due to all the labourers having less money and a clamp down on the cars modifications.
But now there back :mad: we have three spastic losers going around revving all over the place and the guards arent doing anything about them. Have the laws loosened up

punisher5112

They quite possibly have cars all legal and hard to prove any wrong doing unless caught.

The guards can measure exhaust decibels and get them to sort that if its not legal.

If ya can't beat em join em.

Go out and pull up beside them and play classical music and offer them hugs they probably will leave.

Kal El

punisher5112 wrote: »

They quite possibly have cars all legal and hard to prove any wrong doing unless caught.

The guards can measure exhaust decibels and get them to sort that if its not legal.

If ya can't beat em join em.

Go out and pull up beside them and play classical music and over them hugs they probably will leave.

I thought about that, then the family wagon probably isnt cool

punisher5112

Kal El wrote: »

I thought about that, then the family wagon probably isnt cool

Get some acid or brake fluid and rust the hood then your in. Take the hub caps off as steelies are in and mess with the camber if you want to go full retard.

Kal El

punisher5112 wrote: »

Get some acid or brake fluid and rust the hood then your in. Take the hub caps off as steelies are in and mess with the camber if you want to go full retard.

This sounds like its going to be a lot of work. Where do they get the time

punisher5112

They don't work usually either so plenty of time.

Powered by the dole is a thing they go by.

buried

blueser

Staggering the amount of doughnut skidmarks you see on bypasses up and down the country as you drive around. Ah well; I suppose they'll stop when they fully mature. If they survive that long.

Fleawuss

I downloaded "fcuk that sh*t" and play it on the car stereo very loudly with the windows down when I meet boy racers.

Kal El

punisher5112 wrote: »

They don't work usually either so plenty of time.

Powered by the dole is a thing they go by.

Nah two of them work in the local petrol station, which I live beside then the crew turns up at 10 and the revving, coolness begins. Colour me jealous

Mozzeltoff

Kal El wrote: »

Nah two of them work in the local petrol station, which I live beside then the crew turns up at 10 and the revving, coolness begins. Colour me jealous

Could you not just have a chat with their boss and let him deal with them?

Every May bank holiday weekend the town of Killarney is infested with boy racers as they all descend upon the place for the Rally of the Lakes. They can be an absolute plague around and it just draws trouble every year. Every Garda and Gourier out in force..tis fantastic

Kal El

Mozzeltoff wrote: »

Could you not just have a chat with their boss and let him deal with them?

Every May bank holiday weekend the town of Killarney is infested with boy racers as they all descend upon the place for the Rally of the Lakes. They can be an absolute plague around and it just draws trouble every year. Every Garda and Gourier out in force..tis fantastic

That sounds awesome

philstar

some of them think they're living in downtown LA.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5UBRXOHTuM

clairek6

It's funny because their cars are often older than myself and sound like our old lawnmower

Cee-Jay-Cee

It's all Altezza's around letterkenny/donegal and then you have the real rednecks who still have VW TDi's with pigeon pipes.

NIMAN

Bora's, everywhere.

hannible the cannible

Kal El wrote: »

So back in the day the racer scene was all about, but finished thankfully due to all the labourers having less money and a clamp down on the cars modifications.
But now there back :mad: we have three spastic losers going around revving all over the place and the guards arent doing anything about them. Have the laws loosened up

If there's anything worse than uppity labourers having disposable income I certainly can't think of it

CaptainR

The majority of it is just for looks, none of them are truely modified in any way to increase performance. Loud exhaust, different wheels, spoiler (on FWD car) different air filter. Its posing plain and simple. The majority of them wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding.

Wibbs

CaptainR wrote: »

The majority of it is just for looks,
none of them are truely modified in any way to increase performance.

Often true alright.

Loud exhaust,

A good one does increase performance, particularly on car models where the factory fitted exhaust is restrictive(usually down to cost cutting). It doesn't have to sound like the exhaust has entirely fallen off mind you.

spoiler (on FWD car)

You do realise that spoilers and/or wings can have an advantageous effect with front wheel drive cars? Particularly at higher speeds and in cornering.

different air filter.

Again like the exhaust, standard production cars can have quite restrictive systems. More air in + more fuel + more burnt fuel/air out = more efficient combustion and more performance.

the evasion_kid

All I hear at night laying in bed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcJxTY7twyc

punisher5112

Oh the inevitable cooooooooo or boooooooo sounds.

Kal El

I honestly thought modified exhausts were illegal. I presumed thats why they all disappeared around the same time

xzanti

I keep seeing this (I think it's an Astra) driving around my area with the words "You just got passed by a girl"... and "Powered by Fairydust" in decals on the back.

So damn cool.

Galwayguy35

Pointless calling the Guards, by the time they get here the racers are well gone.

Anyway they have important work to do catching people doing a few km's over the speed limit.

CianRyan

I'd say very few if any of these lads, hanging around and revving as you say, are actually racers.
Boys is a more acurate term.

bazz26

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Pointless calling the Guards, by the time they get here the racers are well gone.

Anyway they have important work to do catching people doing a few km's over the speed limit.

Yeah, maybe they were just chasing the person with the gun to the driver's head forcing them to go over the speed limit. It must be someone else's fault right?

Galwayguy35

bazz26 wrote: »

Yeah, maybe they were just chasing the person with the gun to the driver's head forcing them to go over the speed limit. It must be someone else's fault right?

I've seen them parked up where the speed limit drops from 100 down to 50 and it's like shooting fish in a barrell, we're plagued here with boy racers turning the roads black and making noise all hours of the night and not one has ever been caught.

bazz26

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I've seen them parked up where the speed limit drops from 100 down to 50 and it's like shooting fish in a barrell, we're plagued here with boy racers turning the roads black and making noise all hours of the night and not one has ever been caught.

These clowns are well organised, they have lookouts and listen in to Garda radio chatter so they know when to disappear. It's a bit like our ethnic cousins and their cultural sulky racing on public roads.

Galwayguy35

bazz26 wrote: »

These clowns are well organised, they have lookouts and listen in to Garda radio chatter so they know when to disappear. It's a bit like our ethnic cousins and their cultural sulky racing on public roads.

I agree with you on that all right.

Kal El

There not so much racers, more boy revvers. Surely the guards can do them on noise pollution

kneemos

Wibbs wrote: »

Often true alright. A good one does increase performance, particularly on car models where the factory fitted exhaust is restrictive(usually down to cost cutting). It doesn't have to sound like the exhaust has entirely fallen off mind you. You do realise that spoilers and/or wings can have an advantageous effect with front wheel drive cars? Particularly at higher speeds and in cornering. Again like the exhaust, standard production cars can have quite restrictive systems. More air in + more fuel + more burnt fuel/air out = more efficient combustion and more performance.

Wings are for downforce,useless on a fwd car. All they do is slow it down and make it light in the front,unstable at speed and worse for cornering.

punisher5112

kneemos wrote: »

Wings are for downforce,useless on a fwd car. All they do is slow it down and make it light in the front,unstable at speed and worse for cornering.

Not true.

The down force is needed on rear also to keep the back from spinning as if all down force was on from alone the rear would become so light it would spin out.

Normal driving this really won't have much benefits but on track or the autobahn then that's something of benefit.

kneemos

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not true.

The down force is needed on rear also to keep the back from spinning as if all down force was on from alone the rear would become so light it would spin out.

Normal driving this really won't have much benefits but on track or the autobahn then that's something of benefit.

No. Makes the car light at the front and will understeer rather than spin.

selectamatic

bazz26 wrote: »

These clowns are well organised, they have lookouts and listen in to Garda radio chatter so they know when to disappear. It's a bit like our ethnic cousins and their cultural sulky racing on public roads.

Organised? Listening to Radio chatter? Designated Lookouts?

Christ man it's a few young fellas parked up chatting at a local petrol station.
Sounds to me like you've been watching too many fast and furious films.

punisher5112

kneemos wrote: »

No. Makes the car light at the front and will oversteer rather than spin.

Again not correct its all respectively speaking of course.

My car has a boot spoiler/wing if you like and that's from factory and is in place as car is high performance and can hit high speeds but we normal folk technically have absolutely no need as our top speed legally is 120k.

Now the front while travelling forward has air travelling over but also under and at higher speed for more grip cars are designed to have the air travel more so over as to stabilize the car and help keep traction especially at high speeds.

gctest50

kneemos wrote: »

Wings are for downforce,useless on a fwd car. All they do is slow it down and make it light in the front,unstable at speed and worse for cornering.

You might want to stop lift rather than generate loads of downforce

Depending on the shape of the car, a serious lip spoiler will trap a (pillow sized maybe? ) pocket of air on top of the boot, then the other air will pass over that

Otherwise the air will go over the roof and have to expand again to fill the gap - this can be bad - same amount of air occupying more space = lower pressure = lift

Mister Vain

Boy racers are a dying breed. Only a few remain. Back it the day there was Skanger Me Banger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RlXJCwSjwg

kneemos

They're not insured I presume unless they tell them about modifications,if they tell them about modifications I presume they won't get insurance?

bazz26

selectamatic wrote: »

Organised? Listening to Radio chatter? Designated Lookouts?

Christ man it's a few young fellas parked up chatting at a local petrol station.
Sounds to me like you've been watching too many fast and furious films.

Take a deep breathe and read my post again.

I was talking about these idiots in general doing donuts on public road or drifting on roundabouts at all hours, not a few lads with one direction hair cuts and skinny jeans at a petrol station showing each other how blue their headlights are.

sjb25

bazz26 wrote: »

and listen in to Garda radio chatter

This is bulsh1t they can't now days mayb years ago but gardai now use tetra digital radios that the average boy racers won't be able to brake into that system

They prob do have look outs we did I used to hang around with lads like this in my miss spent youth wasn't what you call a full blown boy racer now I'd a done up golf no good for the racing but alright for the driving up and down the streets with the windows down ( heaters up in the cold ) loud music girls in the car (only chasing me for the car probably but was worth it ah sure thought I was the business

Till I grew up a I just cringe now
But we would have been pretty organised at meet ups etc you would know in plenty of time if the gardai where to arrive lads would be gone like lunatics if you got a phonecall I was lucky I had a full liecence at 18 car taxed and insured so once I was not caught messing (never was) gardai could do absolutely nothing to me only wave me on

Atoms for Peace

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not true.

The down force is needed on rear also to keep the back from spinning as if all down force was on from alone the rear would become so light it would spin out.

Normal driving this really won't have much benefits but on track or the autobahn then that's something of benefit.

Audi had to put a spoiler on their TT mk1 for that very reason after a number of fatal crashes.

selectamatic

bazz26 wrote: »

Take a deep breathe and read my post again.

I was talking about these idiots in general doing donuts on public road or drifting on roundabouts at all hours, not a few lads with one direction hair cuts and skinny jeans at a petrol station showing each other how blue their headlights are.

Well the thread is about lads at a petrol station. Nothing in your post suggested you were referring to anything else.

You went off on a tangent talking about a scene that would be more at home in a fast and furious film (roads closed pizza boy find another way home :P)

Talking about radio chatter is absolutely nonsenseical and the closest thing to illegal organisation would be a post on Facebook about a bit of diffin in the middle of the night.

But as usual the Joe Duffy brigade think Ireland is at the mercy of high horsepower streetracers! it's really quite entertaining to see such hysterics over what really amounts to f#*k all.

Whatever about Ireland and a few straight piped tdi's I suggest staying away from America, Japan, Stockholm, Dubai etc. Their boyracers won't be to ye're liking at all :P

Wibbs

kneemos wrote: »

Wings are for downforce,useless on a fwd car. All they do is slow it down and make it light in the front,unstable at speed and worse for cornering.

*facepalm* Why you continue to display ignorance on the subject with such happy confidence astounds me TBH.

Let's break it down in very simple terms for you…. Numero Uno; contrary to old fashioned "thinking" the rear wheels on a FWD car are not merely hanging on at the back. It's an oddly common idea this, particularly with RWD is king types. Numero Dos; while people tend to lump them together, there are "wings" and there are "spoilers". Both spoilers and wings purpose is to reduce lift at the rear of a car, but go about it different ways.

I would most certainly disagree regarding the claim it(wing or spoiler) would make things "worse for cornering". Quite the opposite in fact. Basically a FWD car corners(and changes direction) better with a stiff rear suspension setup, the problem being that this makes them much more skittish under braking(particularly at speed), changes of direction and after initial turn in on a corner. An effectively set up rear wing essentially mimics the effect of stiffer suspension without the negatives. So you can run a less stiff rear suspension which makes the car more forgiving, but as speed increases the wing acts like a stiffer suspension.

Then we get to spoilers. Spoilers work in a different way to airfoil wings, but to the same end. The clue is kinda in the name. They "spoil" the airflow across targeted parts of the car, which in turn helps overall airflow across the car and usually improve overall drag. Typically these are placed at the rear of a car where the air gets messy and gets dragged downwards causing lift. This is not good. Particularly in a FWD car. Unlike wings they don't need to be way up in the air.

These two airflow organisers are but a part of the overall aerodynamic package. Balance comes into it. So if the car has front air dams(even a lower to the road front bumper), you need to tweak the rear aerodynamics accordingly.

Oh and before the high horse brigade mosey along; these effects can be felt at normal road speeds, such as on main roads and motorways. Obviously on race tracks where speeds and forces are higher more intense wings and spoilers come into play.

sjb25

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not true.

The down force is needed on rear also to keep the back from spinning as if all down force was on from alone the rear would become so light it would spin out.

Normal driving this really won't have much benefits but on track or the autobahn then that's something of benefit.

You guys obviously don't no the real benefit of a spoiler very handy when parked up

diomed

xzanti wrote: »

I keep seeing this (I think it's an Astra) driving around my area with the words "You just got passed by a girl"... and "Powered by Fairydust" in decals on the back.
So damn cool.

Driving around an area - sad
"passed by a girl" - nobody cares about overtaking
"Powered by Fairydust" - are fans of Disney's Frozen driving?

petrolcan

Kal El wrote: »

spastic

Any chance you could broaden your vocabulary and stop using that word?

petrolcan

punisher5112 wrote: »

retard.

FFS!

Boggy Turf

Kal El wrote: »

So back in the day the racer scene was all about, but finished thankfully due to all the labourers having less money and a clamp down on the cars modifications.
But now there back :mad: we have three spastic losers going around revving all over the place and the guards arent doing anything about them. Have the laws loosened up

They appeared during the boom, they went away during the bust. The boom must be back baby.

Wibbs

sjb25 wrote: »

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They prob do have look outs we did I used to hang around with lads like this in my miss spent youth wasn't what you call a full blown boy racer now I'd a done up golf no good for the racing but alright for the driving up and down the streets with the windows down ( heaters up in the cold ) loud music girls in the car (only chasing me for the car probably but was worth it ah sure thought I was the business

Till I grew up a I just cringe now

Ah SJ, I'd not cringe too much. That kinda thing is one of the outlets younger people have(particularly, but not exclusively young men). Young guys have always done up their cars, right back to when the first cars came out. Hot rodding is damn near a century old. Back then they'd be fiddling with magnetos and trembler coils and oiling their trunnions. It's a way to make your particular mark and belong to a community of sorts. Speed is also addictive of course and when you're 19 you consider yourself immortal. Are their muppets in such communities? Of course, but there are muppets in chess clubs too.

Kal El

petrolcan wrote: »

Any chance you could broaden your vocabulary and stop using that word?

Why? I feel its apt

Kal El

Wibbs wrote: »

Ah SJ, I'd not cringe too much. That kinda thing is one of the outlets younger people have(particularly, but not exclusively young men). Young guys have always done up their cars, right back to when the first cars came out. Hot rodding is damn near a century old. Back then they'd be fiddling with magnetos and trembler coils and oiling their trunnions. It's a way to make your particular mark and belong to a community of sorts. Speed is also addictive of course and when you're 19 you consider yourself immortal. Are their muppets in such communities? Of course, but there are muppets in chess clubs too.

I personally have nothing against modified cars. But like you said its the muppets that ruin it for everyone. You can have a modified exhaust and not rev when you turn into the station, then rev again when you turn towards the petrol pump, then rev again as your coming to a stop then rev again before you turn off the car.
Theres plenty of lads who mod cars around who are sound, theres even lads in the group once they were told we had a sleeping baby who stopped doing it. Its just the same three ****ing idiots