Why do women get vertical lip wrinkles more easily than men?

paralysed

Only noticed this recently. I'm a guy, but I look more like my mother (who has some) than my father. Apparently, if you want to see how you age, you should look at your mother, as you inherit her mitochondria.

Both men and women seem to get frown lines and puppet lines at equal rates, but it's just the wrinkles above the lip that men don't seem to get at all. Might be something to do with the hair follicles and extra sweat glands men have.

To digress slightly; on the subject of skin care, I've always assumed that if you've the perfect diet (along with exercise), that the skin should be nourished from the inside out via the capillaries. And that other than a basic face wash, any skin care products are unnecessary and are merely marketing.

maudgonner

Stop doing duckface selfies, that's what's giving you lip wrinkles.


Also, just stop doing duckface selfies in general.

paralysed

maudgonner wrote: »

Stop doing duckface selfies, that's what's giving you lip wrinkles.


Also, just stop doing duckface selfies in general.

i'm a dude

B.A._Baracus

maudgonner wrote: »

Stop doing duckface selfies, that's what's giving you lip wrinkles.


Also, just stop doing duckface selfies in general.

paralysed wrote: »

i'm a dude

Even more of a reason not to do them. I don't understand your fascination with duck faces there, op :pac:

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I've no wrinkles at all yet and I only had Botox in my forehead

paralysed

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I've no wrinkles at all yet and I only had Botox in my forehead

Why if u've none?

Jim Bob Scratcher

Probably because women give more blowjobs than men :pac:

maudgonner

paralysed wrote: »

i'm a dude

I know. You're the kind of dude who does duckfaces. No need to be ashamed of it...


..Actually, wait. There is. Stop doing duckfaces OP.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

paralysed wrote: »

Why if u've none?

To keep it that way also it gives my eyebrows more of an arch

paralysed

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Probably because women give more blowjobs than men :pac:

But Elton John doesn't have any? Or maybe he gets blown!

Jim Bob Scratcher

paralysed wrote: »

But Elton John doesn't have any? Or maybe he gets blown!

Elton is the receiver, not the giver

paralysed

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Elton is the receiver, not the giver

But his David Fisher doesn't have any!?

_Jamie_

TMB - Too Many Blowjobs.

B.A._Baracus

_Jamie_ wrote: »

TMB - Too Many Blowjobs.

No wonder Daniel Craig got the role of James Bond so.

paralysed

_Jamie_ wrote: »

TMB - Too Many Blowjobs.

Some1 already made that joke

Surreptitious

I get botox on my vagina so my lips don't get wrinkled.

_Jamie_

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

No wonder Daniel Craig got the role of James Bond so.

Yeah, that's how he gets all his jobs, casting couch antics.

paralysed wrote: »

Some1 already made that joke

But they didn't include the high-larious acronym. No siree.

FISMA.

"Why do women get vertical lip wrinkles more than men?"

... because men only have horizontal lips?

paralysed

I've a feeling no woman has posted here!

Surreptitious

paralysed wrote: »

I've a feeling no woman has posted here!

I'm shemale.

paralysed

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

No wonder Daniel Craig got the role of James Bond so.

that was a bit of a random one!

paralysed

Surreptitious wrote: »

I'm shemale.

Can't do you so. Sorry

Surreptitious

paralysed wrote: »

Can't do you so. Sorry

Thought I was on a promise there for a while.

wakka12

You don't inherit 'good ageing' , ageing is basically just collagen loss which leads to sagging skin, decrease in fat in the mid face and temples and eye area(all places that show youth), bone density loss, increased body fat in jaw/mouth and rest of body. What genes would determine these do you think? They're relatively constant for all people, thats why most people look their age. Some people just look better than others as some people stay in shape as they age and also it depends on the level of sun exposure you've had in your life, smoking, exercise,hair and skin care etc. Black people for instance age better due to their skin being darker and thicker , protecting from sun. Theres no 'good ageing' gene when you break it down like this. And to answer your question, men have a slightly thicker skin layer naturally which makes them age slower.

whoopsadoodles

Those wrinkles are usually from smoking. It's rotten.

If your mam doesn't smoke it could be that she's just really crap at blow jobs.

Jimmy Garlic

Dr Bunkums organic Fukushima seaweed cream with added snake oil will do the trick, it's just €99.95.... Seriously though women spend serious money on creams that do sweet F all to stop the aging process.

B.A._Baracus

paralysed wrote: »

that was a bit of a random one!

Only a joke.

fizzypish

LexieOnRale wrote: »

To keep it that way also it gives my eyebrows more of an arch

The perpetually surprised look?

Goya

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Dr Bunkums organic Fukushima seaweed cream with added snake oil will do the trick, it's just €99.95.... Seriously though women spend serious money on creams that do sweet F all to stop the aging process.

Hmm... No moisturiser means dry, "tight" skin which helps it lose its elasticity, so while I agree moisturiser does not stop the ageing process, no moisturising helps accommodate it sooner.

What has stood my skin in good stead above all is keeping in the shade/using a SPF when it's sunny. And moisturising daily (an expensive moisturiser is of course not necessary).

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

fizzypish wrote: »

The perpetually surprised look?

Nope. There was 15 months between my 1st and 2nd time, and probably won't do it again (3rd time) til April or May. Had it done last November. If it's something you do infrequently you can't tell anythings there, everything just looks better.

kneemos

Think I heard somewhere it was down to exfoliating,men do it naturally when they shave.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

kneemos wrote: »

Think I heard somewhere it was down to exfoliating,men do it naturally when they shave.

No. Exfoliating removes excess oil, dead skin, and helps keep skin clear and less congested. This means when you put on your moisturiser it's not sitting on a layer of dead skin.

fizzypish

LexieOnRale wrote: »

No. Exfoliating removes excess oil, dead skin, and helps keep skin clear and less congested. This means when you put on your moisturiser it's not sitting on a layer of dead skin.

My GF often says she's getting wrinkles (she's not). I just laugh, I know what her mother looks like. We'll be grand.

Wesser

Because they're scowling all the time?

whoopsadoodles

Flimpson wrote: »

Hmm... No moisturiser means dry, "tight" skin which helps it lose its elasticity, so while I agree moisturiser does not stop the ageing process, no moisturising helps accommodate it sooner.

What has stood my skin in good stead above all is keeping in the shade/using a SPF when it's sunny. And moisturising daily (an expensive moisturiser is of course not necessary).

See I dunno. It's all anecdotal but my experience is different.

And this goes back to the "genes" thing too.

My mam looks much younger than her age, she has really good skin. My nan is the same. I also have good skin and apparently look quite a bit younger than I am.

The one thing we all have in common, aside from our familial link, is that we actually don't use products on our skin. I use hot water and a face cloth, my mam has always sworn that's the best thing of all, I also maybe use a face wash if I've gotten one cheap in boots recently or something, but other than that no.

Mortpourvelo

Probably that stupid pout face some of them do!!!

GreenFolder2

You'd wonder actually if using makeup and so many cosmetics could actually be having the opposite to the intended effect?

Your skin has a lot of natural oils and ability to keep itself in good shape. When you start plastering it in the latest gimmick cream or tons of makeup it has to have some impact.

In general, lads have a very different skincare regime - just giving the face a quick rinse.

mad muffin

suicide_circus

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Those wrinkles are usually from smoking. It's rotten.

If your mam doesn't smoke it could be that she's just really crap at blow jobs.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK

Widdershins

kneemos wrote: »

Think I heard somewhere it was down to exfoliating,men do it naturally when they shave.

There is a beauty trend or practice called facial planing which is basically shaving for women, using a special razor, to maintain the quality of the skin of the face. I think Liz Taylor was one of the famous women who used to do it.

hairyprincess

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

Those wrinkles are usually from smoking. It's rotten.

If your mam doesn't smoke it could be that she's just really crap at blow jobs.

This is an excellent point. You should ask your dad and report back.

Wibbs

Widdershins wrote: »

There is a beauty trend or practice called facial planing which is basically shaving for women, using a special razor, to maintain the quality of the skin of the face. I think Liz Taylor was one of the famous women who used to do it.

Shaving seems to make a diff alright. Plus if men don't shave the hair stops reduces UV damage by blocking light. Plus men have thicker skin with more collagen.

paralysed

wakka12 wrote: »

You don't inherit 'good ageing'

But you do, to a degree.

JJEP

Less collagen in skin perhaps?

Goya

whoopsadoodles wrote: »

See I dunno. It's all anecdotal but my experience is different.

And this goes back to the "genes" thing too.

My mam looks much younger than her age, she has really good skin. My nan is the same. I also have good skin and apparently look quite a bit younger than I am.

The one thing we all have in common, aside from our familial link, is that we actually don't use products on our skin. I use hot water and a face cloth, my mam has always sworn that's the best thing of all, I also maybe use a face wash if I've gotten one cheap in boots recently or something, but other than that no.

Yeah i reckon there has to be a genetic component.

The point about exfoliating is a good one. This smooths the skin and improves absorption of moisturiser/oil.

Make-up having an ageing effect? I dunno. I don't wear foundation, just tinted moisturiser the odd time, but I'd have thought the way it clogs up pores creates oil, which while that causes spots, would keep the skin moisturised?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Flimpson wrote: »

Yeah i reckon there has to be a genetic component.

The point about exfoliating is a good one. This smooths the skin and improves absorption of moisturiser/oil.

Make-up having an ageing effect? I dunno. I don't wear foundation, just tinted moisturiser the odd time, but I'd have thought the way it clogs up pores creates oil, which while that causes spots, would keep the skin moisturised?

Leaving makeup on over night or constantly wearing full coverage foundation or fake tan on your face can most certainly cause breakouts, especially when it's not cleansed off properly.

I have a product that you use after you cleanse your skin and exfoliate that you "push" into your skin and it acts like a magnet and when you bring it back to the surface of the skin, it pulls all the manky stuff out. I use it about every two weeks and it's very gross in that your skin is SPOTLESS before using it and then when you remove it with cotton, the cotton will be orange from tan and makeup left in pores.

Some people with certain types of skin will react differently to makeup. Oily skinned ladies tend to wear the heavier coverage makeup which in turn makes their skin worse and so they need the full coverage even more.

A normal skin can't cope with too much cleansing.

A dry skin needs a rich cleanser.

So what is one persons magic product could cause a complete breakout on someone else.

_Whimsical_

What do vertical lip wrinkles even look like? Or puppet lines?
Ok I Googled, I think they're most common in smokers.

paralysed

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Some people with certain types of skin will react differently to makeup. Oily skinned ladies tend to wear the heavier coverage makeup which in turn makes their skin worse and so they need the full coverage even more.

A dry skin needs a rich cleanser.

So what is one persons magic product could cause a complete breakout on someone else.

I'd have thought I have dry skin, but I get spots too... about two or three a week. But I have dandruff, waxy ears and seem to get a build up of dead skin cells easily.

Outside of my perfect diet and basic face wash regime, I don't do anything to tackle this.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Well dry is lacking oil
Dehydrated is lacking moisture
Flaking skin can be dehydrated instead of dry.
Dry is a skin type dehydrated is a skin problem.

So if you're putting products for dry skin on an oily/dehydrated skin you're putting more oil on already oily skin which is too rich and your skin is still dehydrated

paralysed

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

Ok I Googled, I think they're most common in smokers.

but we'll never really know if it's because of the pursing effect of the skin when 'sucking' in the smoke, or the effect of the cigarette carcinogens.

The sucking of of smoke, combined with TMBs all adds up I guess!

Widdershins

paralysed wrote: »

but we'll never really know if it's because of the pursing effect of the skin when 'sucking' in the smoke, or the effect of the cigarette carcinogens.

The sucking of of smoke, combined with TMBs all adds up I guess!

Do male smokers seem to get those lines?

I don't think it is cigarette related. A friend whose wife has them pointed out that she has never smoked. No female smoker I know, has them. I suspect it has more to do with men typically having thicker/oilier skin and hair follicles there. Women only have very fine vellus hair there

I think women are more expressive when they speak. I don't think many men form an 'O' with their lips to say ''Ohhh!'' .

Your skin sounds dehydrated to me. If you naturally have dry skin you should compensate with extra fluids.