Nicola Sturgeon getting the red carpet treatment.

hytrogen

prinzeugen wrote:

She is the leader of a regional government. Bit like the governor of Texas or some other place.

Like Cork or Kerry perhaps?
Cowboys Ted!

hytrogen

FortySeven wrote:

She is the leader of my country. Scotland. We are a country within the United kingdom. It's complicated but I think we can say it is nothing like being a state governor in the US. She has a very good chance of getting independence should brexit carry on the way it is going.

It's not that complicated, Mel Gibson got drunk & hairy, painted his face blue & white that got chopped off then everyone said a hail Mary, woke up the next morning and realised oh your man in the tights is in charge now.. :P

Yamanoto

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

You'd probably pull the pelvis out of yourself if they'd created a mural of Mrs Windsor's face.

Another 3k posts, inevitable name change, and off you'll go all over again.

AGC

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I think she comes across really well and I hope she does what's right for Scotland. Maybe we're buttering her up with all the pomp as it might encourage her to push independence even more for Scotland and perhaps throw a spanner in the works of Brexit? Funny, I saw 2 motorcades for her in the last 2 days, and then I saw another one for some dude in what looked like Arab dress earlier at St Stephen's Green.

3 Ambassador's were presenting credentials so get the full army treatment.

murpho999

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The ambassador's for Morocco, Turkey and Peru were getting the Presidential treatment this week too.

AGC wrote: »

3 Ambassador's were presenting credentials so get the full army treatment.

Do people really think that ambassadors (without apostrophe ) should not be treated correctly?

Galway_Old_Man

Yeah fair play, I like Nicola and all but I think some people are getting a bit too carried away. You'd swear no Scots voted for Brexit the way she's carrying on and polls are consistent in people there not wanting another indy referendum and indeed "Yes" still being beaten by Unionists. It really depends of what form Brexit takes but I don't see an Independent Scotland happening anytime soon. People there seem to like devo-max.

lawred2

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

She's nae oil painting.

relevance?

lawred2

She's a very clever lady

osarusan

She strikes me as a fairly smart and shrewd politician.

Junkyard Tom

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

But where would the Royals go shooting Scottish deer if Scotland became independent? What would happen to the Crown's 37,000 acres, fishing rights and other hard won assets?

The queen is head of 16 countries ( or thereabouts)
She would still be queen of Scotland

Rawr

murpho999 wrote: »

Do people really think that ambassadors (without apostrophe ) should not be treated correctly?

Only if they remember to bring the Ferrero Rocher. Otherwise, how are supposed to know when we are being truly spoiled?

No chocolates, no army, thems the rules.

topper75

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

But where would the Royals go shooting Scottish deer if Scotland became independent? What would happen to the Crown's 37,000 acres, fishing rights and other hard won assets?

They'd just carry on I'd imagine. They keep the property and continue to holiday there as they currently do.

You need to mind that the crowns were unified in 1603, long before the Act of Union in 1707.

You are probably looking at it from the Irish perspective and assume that Scotland will become a republic if independent i.e. after 1922 there was no longer a king of Ireland.

Richard Hillman

murpho999 wrote: »

Do people really think that ambassadors (without apostrophe ) should not be treated correctly?

I wasn't complaining. I was just saying that they met the President in a formal manner. It's on the Presidents twitter feed

Glenster

I think it probably has a lot to do with the proposed SSE investment in windfarms in Cork and Galway. For a couple of 100 million investment, she can address whoever she likes. Its not like the Senate were going to be doing anything important anyway.

A Little Pony

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I think she comes across really well and I hope she does what's right for Scotland. Maybe we're buttering her up with all the pomp as it might encourage her to push independence even more for Scotland and perhaps throw a spanner in the works of Brexit? Funny, I saw 2 motorcades for her in the last 2 days, and then I saw another one for some dude in what looked like Arab dress earlier at St Stephen's Green.

She can't do anything about Brexit. Brext is happening and the UK will most likely leave the single market. A PA give it away a couple of days ago.

JupiterKid

And why not? Sturgeon is one of the most articulate, intelligent and consummate politicians in the UK at present. She has pushed her agenda of what is best for Scotland without being uppity and self-serving. I have to say that I admire her.

I do see her on a collision course with Theresa May over the question of another independence referendum for Scotland.

DEFTLEFTHAND

JupiterKid wrote: »

And why not? Sturgeon is one of the most articulate, intelligent and consummate politicians in the UK at present. She has pushed her agenda of what is best for Scotland without being uppity and self-serving. I have to say that I admire her.

I do see her on a collision course with Theresa May over the question of another independence referendum for Scotland.

Had one two years ago and rejected it. The issue has been put to bed for another generation or two.

Fratton Fred

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

But where would the Royals go shooting Scottish deer if Scotland became independent? What would happen to the Crown's 37,000 acres, fishing rights and other hard won assets?

Queen Elizabeth 1st of Scotland would probably go to her Scottish estates I guess :rolleyes:

FortySeven

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Had one two years ago and rejected it. The issue has been put to bed for another generation or two.

The issue was put to bed last time because of scaremongering about pensions and jobs disappearing.

Since then there has been a rather large decision taken that changed everything.

Another independence vote is expected. Almost guaranteed if brexit takes place. Depending what England can offer against what the eu can offer will decide it. Sturgeon is canvassing support right now. Ireland will support independence I'd say and will help push Scotland's case in the eu.

DEFTLEFTHAND

FortySeven wrote: »

The issue was put to bed last time because of scaremongering about pensions and jobs disappearing.

Since then there has been a rather large decision taken that changed everything.

Another independence vote is expected. Almost guaranteed if brexit takes place. Depending what England can offer against what the eu can offer will decide it. Sturgeon is canvassing support right now. Ireland will support independence I'd say and will help push Scotland's case in the eu.

Ireland is a minor member, we've no influence.

It's the likes of France and Spain who you'll have to convince. (both currently don't like the idea)

Tbh if the EU experiment disintegrates in the next decade or so I would fully support a Union of Scotland, Wales, Ireland, NI and England.

The Wolverine

Scotland getting into the EU will be a non runner I'd say.

Not only is Spain hell bent on vetoing it so Basque and Catalan don't get ideas but Belgium is now getting annoyed by the likes of Flanders talking of independence so don't want Scotland in in case it bolsters their cases.

Think France are also murmering against it too?

Not to mention won't Scotland need a certain balancing of the books to get membership which would lead to massive cuts to services especially since the oil value which the last independence movement was banking on, has dropped massively?

The EU cut funding to the poorest nations of the EU to help with the "refugee crisis" aka the scammer influx so would Scotland get much of the funding they need?

I think if they do get in the EU will have disintegrated by the time they will be in the way it's going anyway IMO.

A Little Pony

FortySeven wrote: »

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Had one two years ago and rejected it. The issue has been put to bed for another generation or two.

The issue was put to bed last time because of scaremongering about pensions and jobs disappearing.

Since then there has been a rather large decision taken that changed everything.

Another independence vote is expected. Almost guaranteed if brexit takes place. Depending what England can offer against what the eu can offer will decide it. Sturgeon is canvassing support right now. Ireland will support independence I'd say and will help push Scotland's case in the eu.

They need Westminster to approve it which they won't. Not a chance. Nicola is just being cruel to yes voters by giving them hope.

jaja321

Have great admiration for her. She's miles ahead of most politicians in the UK currently. A very smart woman.

KingBrian2

Good to see the Scottish First Minister in Ireland and their are plenty of countries in the world that are not Nations but want to be like Catalan, Flanders, Kurd region & Palestine. We should foster relations with these countries. We have a lot in common with them despite them not being in the UN.

Pkiernan

Left wing limousine liberal douchebags.

Grayson

FortySeven wrote: »

The issue was put to bed last time because of scaremongering about pensions and jobs disappearing.

Since then there has been a rather large decision taken that changed everything.

Another independence vote is expected. Almost guaranteed if brexit takes place. Depending what England can offer against what the eu can offer will decide it. Sturgeon is canvassing support right now. Ireland will support independence I'd say and will help push Scotland's case in the eu.

It wasn't even that. The scots were promised greater powers but then told after the referendum that they'd have powers removed from their MP's at Westminster. When they were told they'd get greater powers that's when the polls showed Leave losing popularity.

To be fair the situation has changed a lot in Scotland. Scotland voted against brexit. They simply didn't want it. Also the unique thing about brexit is that it removes a lot of rights from people. The right to travel and work in Europe is a huge deal. That's been removed from them. It's different to an election in that the scots have actually seen their rights eroded slightly and didn't vote for it.

Grayson

AboveBored wrote: »

Thought the Krankies were doing a show here.

You went and regged just for that comment?

Grayson

A Little Pony wrote: »

They need Westminster to approve it which they won't. Not a chance. Nicola is just being cruel to yes voters by giving them hope.

At the moment there are more Panda's than Labour MP's in Scotland. The same goes for conservatives. SNP MP's may be crucial in forming a coalition government at the next election. If that's the case then another referendum will be on the cards.

lawred2

AboveBored wrote: »

Thought the Krankies were doing a show here.

Hmmm

You're not also known as

Adam Battersby
Vowel Movement

by any chance are you?

munsterlegend

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Ireland is a minor member, we've no influence.

It's the likes of France and Spain who you'll have to convince. (both currently don't like the idea)

Tbh if the EU experiment disintegrates in the next decade or so I would fully support a Union of Scotland, Wales, Ireland, NI and England.

There is far more chance of Scotland becoming independent than the Republic of Ireland joining the UK. Might be a trade agreement alright.