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Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

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    #362
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,079 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    problemnext wrote: »
    Is this definitely going to happen. Like is there a date set for its introduction.

    No.


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    #363
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,552 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Our alcohol-related problems are not caused by price and won't be fixed by increasing the price.

    It's sad that after all these years, there seems to be no other ideas for a way to address our alcohol problems, apart from just raising the price.


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    #364
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,079 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Deleted User wrote: »
    But precisely because they are responsible it won't be much more.


    I buy cases of Guinness cans at Xmas for 1 euro approx per can.

    I still have them from last year.

    Under MUP, the price would be 2.00 approx.

    That's a 100% increase.


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    #365
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Geuze wrote: »
    I buy cases of Guinness cans at Xmas for 1 euro approx per can.

    I still have them from last year.

    Under MUP, the price would be 2.00 approx.

    That's a 100% increase.

    So you still have your cans. Problem solved. :)


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    #366
    [Deleted User]
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    But precisely because they are responsible it won't be much more.

    What's your definition of responsible? I would consider myself responsible when it comes to alcohol. I cause no trouble, don't increase any costs to the government through crime, A&E visits or anything else. But I drink a could amount at the same time so doubling the price would be very noticeable to me yet I don't absolutely nothing to deserve having to pay more.

    It's total nonsense and anyone defending it hasn't a clue.


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    #367
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    What about road deaths? Why not increase car insurance by 100%? It will stop all the problem drivers so will reduce deaths & accidents


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    #368
    Giblet
    Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Ban alcohol, problem solved.


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    #369
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Giblet wrote: »
    Ban alcohol, problem solved.

    Yeah worked in 1919 in the States didn't it ?

    Plus are you going to replace the 100,000 jobs and 2bn revenue ???


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    #370
    DaraDali
    Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭DaraDali


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    What about road deaths? Why not increase car insurance by 100%? It will stop all the problem drivers so will reduce deaths & accidents

    Also put all sweets up 300% this will help with obesity in the same way.


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    #371
    howamidifferent
    Registered Users Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭howamidifferent


    shure lets go the whole hog and ban tampons. Women wont menstruate then as tampons wont be available to them, just like the alcoholic who wont drink cos it's to dear...:rolleyes:


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    #372
    Surreptitious
    Registered Users Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Geuze wrote: »
    I buy cases of Guinness cans at Xmas for 1 euro approx per can.

    I still have them from last year.

    Under MUP, the price would be 2.00 approx.

    That's a 100% increase.
    They're gone off by now.


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    #373
    Giblet
    Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Mortpourvelo wrote: »
    Yeah worked in 1919 in the States didn't it ?

    Plus are you going to replace the 100,000 jobs and 2bn revenue ???

    We're trying to protect lives here, LIVES! This has nothing to do with money, shame on you for being so cynical! Ban alcohol and we can move towards a healthier utopia.


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    #374
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    We should ban breathing, that way nobody will take up hospital beds.


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    #375
    Zubeneschamali
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    DaraDali wrote: »
    Also put all sweets up 300% this will help with obesity in the same way.

    Only cheap sweets though. Lindt chocolates (which I buy) should not be affected.


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    #376
    _Jamie_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭_Jamie_


    €48 for 24 cans of generic beer. That is mental, that is just mental. And I'm not a drinker really, so I'm looking at this from the outside.

    Bulk buying of booze should mean discounts kick in. €2 per can when one is buying in bulk is robbery.


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    #377
    Mortpourvelo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 393 ✭✭Mortpourvelo


    Giblet wrote: »
    We're trying to protect lives here, LIVES! This has nothing to do with money, shame on you for being so cynical! Ban alcohol and we can move towards a healthier utopia.

    I so hope that is industrial strength sarcasm!


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    #378
    MeatTwoVeg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    _Jamie_ wrote: »
    €48 for 24 cans of generic beer. That is mental, that is just mental. And I'm not a drinker really, so I'm looking at this from the outside.

    Bulk buying of booze should mean discounts kick in. €2 per can when one is buying in bulk is robbery.

    €2 per can is very cheap.

    People have been brainwashed by so much cheap alcohol that they think it's expensive.

    I would put the MUP at around €2.50 or €3 and I presume that is the long term goal.


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    #379
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users Posts: 7,500 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You won't, because MUP will be introduced into both jurisdictions in the country at the same time, as this makes clear.

    They will because the north will introduce a proper minimum price of £0.50p per unit. 1 litre of vodka costs £18(normal price not discounted). It contains 37.5 units. So that will increase the cost of 1 litre of smirnof by .75p

    Ireland has decided on €1 per unit which takes 1 litre of vodka from €28(normal price) to €37.50 an increase of €9.50

    So a Northern policy causes an increase of 75p and Irish policy causes an increase of €9.50


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    #380
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭Allinall


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    They will because the north will introduce a proper minimum price of £0.50p per unit. 1 litre of vodka costs £18(normal price not discounted). It contains 37.5 units. So that will increase the cost of 1 litre of smirnof by .75p

    Ireland has decided on €1 per unit which takes 1 litre of vodka from €28(normal price) to €37.50 an increase of €9.50

    So a Northern policy causes an increase of 75p and Irish policy causes an increase of €9.50

    You've just made all that up.


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    #381
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users Posts: 7,500 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Allinall wrote: »
    You've just made all that up.

    What exactly have i made up?


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    #382
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    €2 per can is very cheap.

    People have been brainwashed by so much cheap alcohol that they think it's expensive.

    I would put the MUP at around €2.50 or €3 and I presume that is the long term goal.

    Luckily it wont come in, but you are free to pay whatever you want for a can


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    #383
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    €2 per can is very cheap.

    I know, right? Who buys beer that's cheaper than €2? In cans, for God's sake?

    Skangers, that's who. Minimum pricing might put manners on them.


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    #384
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    €2 per can is very cheap.

    People have been brainwashed by so much cheap alcohol that they think it's expensive.

    I would put the MUP at around €2.50 or €3 and I presume that is the long term goal.

    By what metric do you equate it as cheap?

    By the metric most sensible people use IE "what does it cost in other countries" it is one of the most expensive if not the most expensive alcohol, in many cases by a multiple of 3 or 4


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    #385
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,540 ✭✭✭Allinall


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    What exactly have i made up?

    That £0.50p X 37.5 (units) results in a 75p increase in a bottle of Smirnoff for starters.


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    #386
    MeatTwoVeg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Luckily it wont come in, but you are free to pay whatever you want for a can

    I don't drink cans, just bottles. I'd expect to pay for more than €2 for a decent ale.


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    #387
    MeatTwoVeg
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    VinLieger wrote: »
    By what metric do you equate it as cheap?

    By the metric most sensible people use IE "what does it cost in other countries" it is one of the most expensive if not the most expensive alcohol, in many cases by a multiple of 3 or 4

    Ireland is not like other countries in our unhealthy relationship with alcohol.


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    #388
    Right2Write
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭Right2Write


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Brings the whole water charge thing into light.

    Just because a very small few can't handle their drink shouldn't mean it ruins it for the rest of us.

    Up north we go.....

    F*** them - time to start up the home brew and knock up a bit of the mountain dew.


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    #389
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users Posts: 7,500 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Allinall wrote: »
    That £0.50p X 37.5 (units) results in a 75p increase in a bottle of Smirnoff for starters.

    Go to tesco in the north and you will find 1 litre of smirnof vodka at £18

    Go to any article on the norths introduction of minimum price and they state a £0.50p per unit.

    1 Liter of smirnof Vodka contains 37.5 units.

    0.50 x 37.5 = £18.75

    £18.75 - £18.00 = £0.75p increase.

    Is that straight forward enough for you??


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    #390
    VinLieger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,651 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    Ireland is not like other countries in our unhealthy relationship with alcohol.

    Great non-answer

    Again I ask what METRIC do you base 2 euro for a can of beer is cheap?


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    #391
    Help!!!!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    MeatTwoVeg wrote: »
    I don't drink cans, just bottles. I'd expect to pay for more than €2 for a decent ale.

    So do you agree that because of the number of deaths on Irelands roads we should put car insurance up by 100% & more going by size of cars engine?
    This would take the problem people off the roads because they would not be able to afford insurance


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