Dairy chit chat II

whelan2

Anyone at the dairy sale in carnaross today? Any idea of prices?

Wildsurfer

whelan2 wrote: »

We are in a purchasing group for feed. I ordered nuts and got charged the normal price in error. €284/tonne for 16% nut! Who pays that for feed?

Farmers not in a purchasing group who are subsidising the price you're getting! I only joined a group this year and group only accept farmers who purchase substantial quantities as group size is limited but still need buying power. I suppose it is unfair to smaller farmers who don't have the option.

stanflt

whelan2 wrote: »

Anyone at the dairy sale in carnaross today? Any idea of prices?

Avg price was 2150 with top price of 3750

The boom is back-

Prices rose in 100s and sale was over by 2-15

The quickest sale ever- full of buyers

alps

whelan2 wrote: »

We are in a purchasing group for feed. I ordered nuts and got charged the normal price in error. €284/tonne for 16% nut! Who pays that for feed?

Board members.....and they can be wickedly pissed when they hear of those getting better deals....

Hence...."by farmers for farmers".."rewarding loyalty" and the current push to force you to buy....this is going to spread like the plague....

All because the board man can't say no

kowtow

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Farmers not in a purchasing group who are subsidising the price you're getting! I only joined a group this year and group only accept farmers who purchase substantial quantities as group size is limited but still need buying power. I suppose it is unfair to smaller farmers who don't have the option.

As far as I recall I buy 16% nuts at about 240 or 250 in 1 tonne bags, and I'm not in a purchasing group (unless there is a default one where they put all the suckers they can get rid of the rubbish on).

whelan2

kowtow wrote: »

As far as I recall I buy 16% nuts at about 240 or 250 in 1 tonne bags, and I'm not in a purchasing group (unless there is a default one where they put all the suckers they can get rid of the rubbish on).

Shop around. There are still lads who dont ask the price of what they are ordering.

oxjkqg

Im not in a purchasing group and get it fairly right from my supplier.
Purchasing groups arnt the be-all and end-all :cool:

whelan2

stanflt wrote: »

Avg price was 2150 with top price of 3750

The boom is back-

Prices rose in 100s and sale was over by 2-15

The quickest sale ever- full of buyers

Bought ten second and third calvers yesterday. €1450 off farm. Nice strong cows with good figures. One ogf them had 22litres this morning. All calved in the last 2weeks

C0N0R

whelan2 wrote: »

We are in a purchasing group for feed. I ordered nuts and got charged the normal price in error. €284/tonne for 16% nut! Who pays that for feed?

How many people actually pay the full price? That's the old list price, I'd assume there would be something off that to start off with and sure there would probably be something off it when settling up in good time. Adding it onto the price to take it away again!

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Bought ten second and third calvers yesterday. €1450 off farm. Nice strong cows with good figures. One ogf them had 22litres this morning. All calved in the last 2weeks

Did you get them Johnes tested?

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Did you get them Johnes tested?

No. They had been recently tested and vet said it wouldn't give accurate results. He never has had a case of johnes. I will test them when doing my herd. Very genuine lad. Also at that age they would be showing signs of johnes

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

No. They had been recently tested and vet said it wouldn't give accurate results. He never has had a case of johnes. I will test them when doing my herd. Very genuine lad

Hope they go well for you.

mahoney_j

oxjkqg wrote: »

Im not in a purchasing group and get it fairly right from my supplier.
Purchasing groups arnt the be-all and end-all :cool:

I think I buy things fairly competivetely ,bargain hard and keep to agreed payement terms .i know 1 or 2 lads in purchasing groups and I cringe when I see the difference in price as to what they pay with similar terms

whelan2

C0N0R wrote: »

How many people actually pay the full price? That's the old list price, I'd assume there would be something off that to start off with and sure there would probably be something off it when settling up in good time. Adding it onto the price to take it away again!

Ye. But I'm sure there's lads paying full whack and then interest on top of that.

oxjkqg

mahoney_j wrote: »

I think I buy things fairly competivetely ,bargain hard and keep to agreed payement terms .i know 1 or 2 lads in purchasing groups and I cringe when I see the difference in price as to what they pay with similar terms

Exactly.
The other thing i see is with local purchasing group, for some items like straw, pit covers, detergents, troughs, they are using a neighour of mine who is a member as a depot a times, he seems to be loading members forever, eg full load of straw is dropped to his yard and then split into 3 or 4 batchs or pallet of pit covers dropped there and the members are calling there to pick up.

I think u also build up a better relationship with certain reps there at times.
Like when it does happen that u run out of meal unexpectedly on a friday and have a good relationship with 2 reps, they do there best to get u sorted for the weekend, would wonder with purchasing group if after all the bargaining etc would they be as willing, every1 to there own i suppose

yewtree

There is huge savings to be made in purchasing groups, especially in things like vet, fert and feed. A properly run group could save you a 2 cent a litre

boggerman1

Not in a purchasing group myself but know a friend in one.he gets me the dairy detergents for me though it.i know what he buys fertilizer for is way more competitive than what I would buy it for.as an aside.i bought 16 bags of grass seed today.priced my local co-op(mid Tipp) area.was quoted €62 for a number 3 mix.went 10 miles over the road and the same grass seed mix that this man was selling supplied by my said co-op was €55.can't wait to meet my local committee rep again and ask why the difference.😊

Buford T. Justice XIX

There's an election looking in NZ and a fairly saucy range of taxes proposed for dairy farms.

https://www.dairynz.co.nz/news/latest-news/dairy-could-be-hit-with-a-trifecta-of-taxes/

GrasstoMilk

Where would I get the rolls of geotextile membrane to put on the soil before the stone goes down

Mooooo

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Where would I get the rolls of geotextile membrane to put on the soil before the stone goes down

Would coop or builders merchants have it?

freedominacup

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Where would I get the rolls of geotextile membrane to put on the soil before the stone goes down

Most builder suppliers. It's cheap enough but I'd be a bit dubious about it's value for a farm road.

GrasstoMilk

freedominacup wrote: »

Most builder suppliers. It's cheap enough but I'd be a bit dubious about it's value for a farm road.

Tom Ryan of teagasc says not to put down a road with out it. Worth a try any way.
There's a concrete road beside it, all machinery will be traveling on that

freedominacup

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Tom Ryan of teagasc says not to put down a road with out it. Worth a try any way.
There's a concrete road beside it, all machinery will be traveling on that

Horses for courses. The last bit of roadway here we met rock at 4 inches. Needless to say there's been no subsidence or clay coming up through the stone on that stretch.

whelan2

17 cows calved now. 12 fr bulls, 4fr heifers and 1 hereford heifer. Never had as bad a run.

mf240

whelan2 wrote: »

17 cows calved now. 12 fr bulls, 4fr heifers and 1 hereford heifer. Never had as bad a run.

Once there alive and cows up and milking I'd never say a word.

yewtree

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Where would I get the rolls of geotextile membrane to put on the soil before the stone goes down

I thought it was only necessary where soil was poor like peat?
I am going to use it next year on spur roadways next year on some of our heavy ground

Floki

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Where would I get the rolls of geotextile membrane to put on the soil before the stone goes down

Would you not take off the topsoil before putting down the roadway?

You'd always have a need for some topsoil.
It would be handy to have a pile left somewhere for when you need it.
I had a good pile here for a few years and it's nearly gone now.

If you were living in the town and buying it per the bag you'd be glad of it.:)

whelan2

mf240 wrote: »

Once there alive and cows up and milking I'd never say a word.

Ah I know. Only a few fr more to come rest will be angus heifer calves no doubt

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Ah I know. Only a few fr more to come rest will be angus heifer calves no doubt

Just the expected 50:50 male:female split:pac:

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just the expected 50:50 male:female split:pac:

It always evens itself out. ... even cows that had bulls last yer had bulls this year