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Red wine

  • 23-11-2016 3:09am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭


    Hi I'm hoping to start drinking red wine but don't know where to start and what brand ,I've a sweet tooth of that matters and price between ten-twenty euro so is there a nice tasting wine red that won't make me say yuckkkk


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,873 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Judging by your criteria: Buckfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Just one moment please..

    Aongus Von Bismarck to reception please, Aongus Von Bismarck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    Ribena and add vodka...it'll at least look the same



    Wine is rank.....I cannot fathom why people pay to drink it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Why do you want to start drinking red wine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    Ribena and add vodka...it'll at least look the same



    Wine is rank.....I cannot fathom why people pay to drink it

    There's something slightly incongruous about these two sentences!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Pinot noir is a good place to start with red.

    Haven't had red wine in ages. Will have to remedy that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    Get a bunch of the 1/4 bottles and have a tasting.

    Personally, I like Shiraz and cabernet sauvignon.... Preferably from Australia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Hi I'm hoping to start drinking red wine but don't know where to start and what brand ,I've a sweet tooth of that matters and price between ten-twenty euro so is there a nice tasting wine red that won't make me say yuckkkk

    Hoping to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Just hook it to my veins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Just one moment please..

    Aongus Von Bismarck to reception please, Aongus Von Bismarck.



    Besides, white wine FTW


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I don't think I've ever tasted a sweet red wine. And I've tasted a lot of wine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    West coast cooler do a rose now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Hi I'm hoping to start drinking red wine


    What a wonder ambition!

    We're fully behind you OP in all your future endeavors!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    I don't think I've ever tasted a sweet red wine. And I've tasted a lot of wine

    I have tasted a lot of fruity reds that would be considered sweet, A LOT....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Yup. Red wines that are high in sugar are usually experienced as "fruity" or "rich" or some such term, rather than as "sweet". That's because red wines tend to have other characteristics that eclipse a sugar taste.

    If, when the OP says that she has a sweet tooth, she means she prefers drinks that taste sugary, then there are a lot more whites than reds that will appeal to her. There are explicitly sweet-tasting reds, but not a lot of them, and they'll nearly always be labelled "sweet", since they will have been produced specifically to have this fairly unusual characteristic.

    What makes red wine red is the grape skins, and they also impart tannin, which tends to eclipse a sugar taste. So if you want to produce a sweeter red, one way to do this is to remove the grapeskins at an earlier stage in the process, resulting in a paler wine. And certain grape varieties are better at producing sweet red wine; particularly shiraz and grenache.

    So, OP, head down to your off-licence and browse among the reds, looking for shiraz and grenache wines that are pale in colour. They may appeal to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Wine is not like Sherry OP....so dont be thinking about sweetness.
    A good starter would be a nice merlot. Get a bottle for around 12-14 in the supermarket and see if you like it. Try the McGuigan Merlot perhaps?

    If you want to go mad all together then download an app called Vivino. It will give you ratings and average price for most wine bottle labels so you can read what people have said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    As previously mentioned pint noir is generally an easily accessible starting point. Look for something lower in alcohol, 10-12% rather than 12-14.5% as less alcohol generally means more sugar and a sweeter less dry wine. A wine low in tannins is good to avoid that drying grape skin effect. Try an eastern European shop for romanian/moldovan wine as they tend to be very easy drinking and clearly marked as being sweet or dry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭gumbo1


    Try a Zinfandel, it's californian and is very drinkable. Go for either Menage a trois or Gnarley Head brand. If you do let me know whatyou think, there 2 of my favourites!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It goes to my he-ay-ay-ad!!




    Have that fcuking song in my head now, thanks!


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭Ciaran_B


    You can mix red wine with Cola or Tonic to mellow the taste.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    Just one moment please..

    Aongus Von Bismarck to reception please, Aongus Von Bismarck.

    I like the way you're thinking but the OP specified a price range of €10-20. AvB wouldn't even make his famous coq-au-vin with a €20 wine!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    It goes to my he-ay-ay-ad!!




    Have that fcuking song in my head now, thanks!

    Don't you mean you have that fúcking song in your he-ay-ay-ad!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    I applaud your wish to start drinking red wine.

    It's stopping drinking red wine that's the problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    Popular drink spain and south america is mixture of coke and red wine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalimotxo


    This could be a gate way beverage for you before you embark on a more serious career in wine drinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,426 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Watch Sideways, before deciding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I'm sure there are reviews online, apparently Lidls have some decent ones. Just buy a bottle a day, you have to build up a familiarity with wine and you'll only do that by drinking a lot of it.

    If you live in a city I've heard they have these people called winos, they have a lot of experience with wine so should be able to advise on a one to one basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Ted111 wrote: »
    Popular drink spain and south america is mixture of coke and red wine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalimotxo


    This could be a gate way beverage for you before you embark on a more serious career in wine drinking.

    It's disgusting, have you ever tried it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    What a wonder ambition!

    We're fully behind you OP in all your future endeavors!
    Is there a different drink that you might recommend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Winterlong wrote: »
    Wine is not like Sherry OP....so dont be thinking about sweetness.
    A good starter would be a nice merlot. Get a bottle for around 12-14 in the supermarket and see if you like it. Try the McGuigan Merlot perhaps?

    If you want to go mad all together then download an app called Vivino. It will give you ratings and average price for most wine bottle labels so you can read what people have said.
    I've yet to taste a good Australian, stick with spainish, Italian , French , chille


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    ted1 wrote: »
    I've yet to taste a good Australian, stick with spainish, Italian , French , chille

    Thats the thing about wine though, you will never find two people who have the same tastes. One mans wine is another's vinegar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,903 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    It's disgusting, have you ever tried it?

    9 out of 10 spainush kids aged 14-18 can't be wrong ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,242 ✭✭✭✭jake is right


    Try the Merlot from Chile in Lidl. Cheap as chips, and in my opinion, very drinkable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Medium rare steak with fried onions. Bottle of malbec. Heaven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Cervantes2


    Pinot Noir is a light red.
    Beaujolais Nouveau is nice too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 861 ✭✭✭MeatTwoVeg


    Aldi do a nice Spanish red called Toro Loco, it's cheap but surprisingly drinkable considering the price.

    If I wanted to quit my job, leave my wife and kids, live under a bridge and go full-alcho, it's probably the wine I'd choose, because I have fcuking standards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭mahoganygas


    Lidl have a lovely red called Barnica Gran Reserva. Fantastic stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭BraveDonut


    I was in the same boat as you once - wanted to start drinking red.
    Was at a work do about 20 years ago and someone ordered a bottle of this.
    https://www.obrienswine.ie/marques-de-riscal-reserva.html

    Pricier - but remains my favourite to this day. But, for a treat only.

    Now I just look for the Tempranillo grape/Rioja


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭AryaStark


    Pinot noir is a good place to start with red.

    Haven't had red wine in ages. Will have to remedy that.

    Id have to agree with this. Pinot noir is yummy and not too sharp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 Lou Scaunt


    Try the Merlot from Chile in Lidl. Cheap as chips, and in my opinion, very drinkable.
    "I am NOT drinking any ****ing Merlot!"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    BraveDonut wrote: »
    Now I just look for the Tempranillo grape/Rioja

    Same as myself. Hasn't seen me wrong yet.

    For white I always always buy a Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc and have never had a bad bottle at any price.

    Might buy one of each on the way home....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭cbreeze


    Look at the ABV first, because the stronger wines - up to 14.5% can be heavy tasting for those whose palate is new to reds.

    A lighter wine such as Beaujolais could be 12 to 12.5% and is easier drinking. The 'Nouveau' is on the shelves now, but in some supermarkets it is dearer at the moment than Beaujolais Villages which is a better quality wine. Some supermarkets still have last year's Nouveau on the shelves, avoid, the primeur wine is only designed to last until Christmas.

    Wines made from Gamay, Grenache, Garnacha grapes - depending on the country - are light and go well with lamb and pork. But drink what you like with what you like. Also mentioned by a poster above, Pinot Noir is not overpowering. Merlot is an easy drinking wine too. Makers of Rose these days are trying to make them a little dryer, other than Mateus Rose, which is a nice starter wine for those completely new to wines. If you like sugary fizz, try the Italian Lambrusco.

    Next proceed to Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Malbec, Syrah/Shiraz - these pack more of a punch.

    However, don't do this all on the one night or you could be a bit ill the next day!

    You could look out for wine tasting classes which will show you how to present and serve wines to get the best out of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 tmcstagger


    Some wine should only be used as a drain cleaner and some wine is wonderful. There is so much diversity to it you will have the arduous task of having to try quite a few to find what you in particular like.

    Some grape varietals produce a much lighter flavour without that heavy tannic body, which judging by your question would be a good place to start.

    You do get what you pay for and I rarely see a bottle under €12 that is anything worth mention. Going by price alone €15 is a pretty safe bet in terms of the wines quality, although this doesn't mean you'll necessarily like it. You should get a free app like vivino which will help you track what you love and hate as well as give you average pricing.

    Try to ignore supermarket discounts as they grossly inflate prices for the sole reason of discounting. That said, if you do find a wine you like within these, supermarkets have a cycle where they work through discounting certain wines on regular rotation. Best bet is to go to a smaller wine shop, don't be intimidated, ask a few questions and tell them what kind of flavours you do enjoy. They are normally very happy to help.

    There's an endless number of online guides which will give you an overview of terms, what to look for and help you appreciate what you have. It's one of life's pleasures, enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 tmcstagger


    About 4 months ago, Supervalu were running a 2 for €20 on the Marquis de riscal. I had only gotten back from holidays in Spain and had actually paid more for it in the duty free. I've never seen it as cheap before hence I bought 3 cases. That same day Tesco had it at €23.95 a bottle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    montepulciano is a slutty little Italian variety to look out for if youre feeling a bit randy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    montepulciano is a slutty little Italian variety to look out for if youre feeling a bit randy.

    Bleedin delish man.

    It's quite rich though, might be a bit much for the OP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    A saucy minx of a glass.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    One of my ideas of heaven is siting down by the fire on a cold evening with a blue cheese, some crackers and bottle of red wine nothing mad expensive a Cabernet sauvignon from chile.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's funny how people have such different tastes in wines. I've never really tasted a French wine that I've enjoyed, any I've had has been either very watery and bland or just had a bitter and unpleasant taste. Then again, I've never actually had wine in France so maybe they just keep all the good stuff for themselves and export the plonk! :pac:

    For me, a South African shiraz or pinotage is hard to beat. South Africans may have terrible accents but they make damn good wine!
    They've got a bit of a spiciness to them which I like, though may not be for everyone.

    If you want a nice, easy-drinking wine then you could do worse than Ogio Primitivo, which is an Italian zinfandel. Housemate got a bottle of it the other night and it was lovely. Think Tesco have it on sale at the moment.



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