You made your bed.....

chillin117

Watching the #Not my president protests in the US is like the Brexit in the UK.
Can we do it again ? I did not think my vote would count etc. I have no sympathy for them, They can blame no one but themselves as it was their fellow countrymen/women that cast the vote that they are now complaining about. You made your bed now lie in it. Life sometimes sucks...

If I didn't make my bed this morning, then does it mean that I can't post here?

Well f*ck you, I won't do what you tell me etc.

mahamageehad

But what if someone else made my bed for me? Old people. Or racists.

Anyways, if my bed is already made don't I have to unmake it to lie in it?

super_furry

Exactly. Everyone should just accept everything forever. The Irish government were elected by the people, so stop protesting against water charges etc. Don't like how outdated laws effect you? Well tough, your "fellow countrymen/women that cast the vote," so just go away now.

Be quiet, sit down and stop making a fuss.

lazybones32

Watching the so-called Democrats protesting against a democratic decision because they didn't like the result is bemusing.

fixXxer

If Clinton got more of the popular vote then there is a nugget of truth at the center of #Notmypresident.

Winterlong

Do all countries not re-run elections/referendums until they get the decision that they want? Like we do?

Ewekiddingme

People have every right to protest any political event they do not agree with. Admittedly, I'm not sure what's possible for the protests to achieve but I wouldn't get annoyed or stressed about the fact they are protesting.

I think the worst thing people could do would be passively accept any politics/policies they strongly oppose without protesting.

DontThankMe

Just send them all to North Korea so they can experience a real democracy at work.

Sue Pa Key Pa

When just married, I made a lovely wooden base for the bed (couldn't afford to buy one)

The Mrs was talking to her mother on the phone one day and my MIL asked was there any news or what were we up to. My wife loudly declared to her that "I stained the bed last night". I nearly puked.

True story

StupidLikeAFox

Winterlong wrote: »

Do all countries not re-run elections/referendums until they get the decision that they want? Like we do?

Not strictly true. The first time we voted for Lisbon, the second time we voted for Lisbon with some amendments included.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

I've no real opinions on Trump of Brexit, but it's funny seeing the same people who take offence to everything on behalf of everyone else turn when things don't go their own way. My personal opinions aside, the people who'll campaign and complain about people not being tolerant of others beliefs in a discussion about Islam or Isis for example, are the very ones complaining to RTÉ before Katie Hopkins even got a chance to go on. Where's the tolerance and understanding now?

Summer wind

The people that make me laugh are the ones that said they'd leave America if Trump got elected. As if.

diomed

The USA can repeat the election until they get it right. It will be re-run in four years.

Badly Drunk Boy

super_furry wrote: »

Exactly. Everyone should just accept everything forever.

Who said anything about accepting it forever? The people voted Trump in for 4 years. After that, everyone can have another chance to vote.


The comments about Hillary winning the popular vote are irrelevant. Everybody (over there, at least) should know how the system works. This time (as it did in 2000) the electoral colleges went against the Democrats. Accept it and try better next time, lads!

El_Duderino 09

chillin117 wrote:

Watching the #Not my president protests in the US is like the Brexit in the UK. Can we do it again ? I did not think my vote would count etc. I have no sympathy for them, They can blame no one but themselves as it was their fellow countrymen/women that cast the vote that they are now complaining about. You made your bed now lie in it. Life sometimes sucks...

Can you imagine the riots and carnage that would be happening right now if Trump didn't win? Remember all the nonsence about vote fraud and rigged elections? Imagibe the trump supporters all pumped up on indignation about 'vote rigging'!

Trump's supporters would be much more vocal and willing to be disruptive than the rest of the country.

You might not like the protests but they're mild compared to the alternative

Venom

Summer wind wrote: »

The people that make me laugh are the ones that said they'd leave America if Trump got elected. As if.

Their already backing down and claiming it was just "a joke" and they didn't really mean it :eek:

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Can you imagine the riots and carnage that would be happening right now if Trump didn't win? Remember all the nonsence about vote fraud and rigged elections? Imagibe the trump supporters all pumped up on indignation about 'vote rigging'!

Trump's supporters would be much more vocal and willing to be disruptive than the rest of the country.

You might not like the protests but they're mild compared to the alternative

Over 40+ states asked the FBI to look into election rigging of polling machines so there were valid concerns. For all the talk of Trump supporters causing trouble, very little actually turned out to be true unlike the fact it was Clinton supporters (Who are now rioting in the streets) who were paid to start fights at Trump events which has been proven to be true.

But yeah its all Trumps fault :rolleyes:

foxy farmer

Maybe they should take up their grievances with the non voters. Turnout this election was around 58%. A lot of the electorate couldn't be bothered by the looks of it.

Fleawuss

It was rigged.

Tsipras

Everyone has the right to protest, Not allowing any protests is surely one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian state

gramar

What you see is what you get
You've made your bed, you'd better lie in it
You choose your leaders and place your trust
As their lies wash you down and their promises rust
You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns
And the public wants what the public gets

The Jam.

bodhrandude

Another fecking politics thread, man, take it to the politics forum jeezo.

daheff

foxy farmer wrote: »

Maybe they should take up their grievances with the non voters. Turnout this election was around 58%. A lot of the electorate couldn't be bothered by the looks of it.

I think it was more that a lot of people didnt want to vote for either candidate...so didnt bother turning up.

The King of Moo

At the very least they're showing Trump that he's going to face a lot of opposition and if he wants to have a successful presidency and be elected, he'll want to look at making some compromises, and that he might not get away with some of his zanier schemes.

PabloAndRoy

Ewekiddingme wrote: »

People have every right to protest any political event they do not agree with. Admittedly, I'm not sure what's possible for the protests to achieve but I wouldn't get annoyed or stressed about the fact they are protesting.

I think the worst thing people could do would be passively accept any politics/policies they strongly oppose without protesting.

In the USA this idea is enshrined in the constitution under the first amendment, an element of the constitution that Trump seems keen on diluting via an onslaught on the freedom of the press.

It kind of makes sense that people are protesting, when you think about it. Places are saying that Trump lost the popular vote, but won based on the Electoral College vote.

Snopes

Independent.co.uk

Vox.com


So, you can understand why people are pissed that despite voting for someone else, a different candidate won because of an archaic system that many believe should be removed.

brevity

lazybones32 wrote: »

Watching the so-called Democrats protesting against a democratic decision because they didn't like the result is bemusing.

Much like the Daily Mail calling those judges traitors despite the fact they were doing exactly what they were supposed to do.

humanji

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I've no real opinions on Trump of Brexit, but it's funny seeing the same people who take offence to everything on behalf of everyone else turn when things don't go their own way. My personal opinions aside, the people who'll campaign and complain about people not being tolerant of others beliefs in a discussion about Islam or Isis for example, are the very ones complaining to RTÉ before Katie Hopkins even got a chance to go on. Where's the tolerance and understanding now?

Maybe they're different people?

Dave_The_Sheep

Deleted User wrote: »

It kind of makes sense that people are protesting, when you think about it. Places are saying that Trump lost the popular vote, but won based on the Electoral College vote.

Without commenting on the actual system the US has in place, they'd be perfectly ok with it if Clinton had won the EC vote but lost the popular vote. Most of them anyways.

super_furry

Deleted User wrote: »

So, you can understand why people are pissed that despite voting for someone else, a different candidate won because of an archaic system that many believe should be removed.

Including Donald Trump circa 2012.

Mr Joe

Remember when Liberals were going apoplectic that Trump may not accept the result of the election and he it was a disgrace to Democracy and America. Now it's okay for a minority to riot and attack police because they didn't get their way. Their hypocrisy never changes. They will never learn. I also see George Soros is funding this, shock horror.

humanji

Mr Joe wrote: »

Remember when Liberals were going apoplectic that Trump may not accept the result of the election and he it was a disgrace to Democracy and America. Now it's okay for a minority to riot and attack police because they didn't get their way. Their hypocrisy never changes. They will never learn. I also see George Soros is funding this, shock horror.

Who's saying it's okay for a minority to riot?

chillin117

Deleted User wrote: »

It kind of makes sense that people are protesting, when you think about it. Places are saying that Trump lost the popular vote, but won based on the Electoral College vote.

Snopes

Independent.co.uk

Vox.com


So, you can understand why people are pissed that despite voting for someone else, a different candidate won because of an archaic system that many believe should be removed.

They should have ''fixed'' it BEFORE the vote, too late now, Maybe in 4 years ?

pickarooney

Fewer people voted for trump than mitt Romney if the stars are to be believed. Something like 12 million fewer democrat voters showed up at the polls. I wonder how many of those are protesting now.

pickarooney

pickarooney wrote: »

Fewer people voted for trump than mitt Romney if the stars are to be believed. Something like 12 million fewer democrat voters showed up at the polls. I wonder how many of those are protesting now.

It's crazy how on the nose this girl in the Big Brother house is about that -

For the lazy - the Big Brother housemates are likely the last to receive the news about the election results, so when quizzed about who they thought won, one girl said that Trump won, because she figured the majority that supported Clinton would be her generation and that her generation would be less likely to vote.

MoodeRator

The change in voter ID law and the closure of 868 polling venues also restricted the opportunity to vote, especially for the less wealthy.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13501120/vote-polling-places-election-2016

darkpagandeath

MoodeRator wrote: »

The change in voter ID law and the closure of 868 polling venues also restricted the opportunity to vote, especially for the less wealthy.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/4/13501120/vote-polling-places-election-2016

I thought the less wealthy and red-necks were trumps supporters and the well to do intelligent were Hilary ? Also trump supporters were violent and to accept the outcome. meanwhile the intelligent lot do not accept the outcome and riot.

It's Gas.

Maximus Alexander

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Not strictly true. The first time we voted for Lisbon, the second time we voted for Lisbon with some amendments included.

Indeed. I find it amusing how people always bring this up as an affront to democracy when it is one of the better examples of democracy in action.

maudgonner

super_furry wrote: »

Including Donald Trump circa 2012.

Including Donald Trump in 2016, in all fairness. He hasn't changed his mind just because the system worked in his favour this time, still says he thinks a simpler system would be better.

MoodeRator

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I thought the less wealthy and red-necks were trumps supporters and the well to do intelligent were Hilary ? Also trump supporters were violent and to accept the outcome. meanwhile the intelligent lot do not accept the outcome and riot.

It's Gas.

I think they are suggesting that the less wealthy black community in Carolina were unable to vote for Clinton.

Rented Mule

lazybones32 wrote: »

Watching the so-called Democrats protesting against a democratic decision because they didn't like the result is bemusing.

The ironic part of all of this is that they're protesting in Blue States.

If they want to make a difference, go down to North Carolina and Protest the KKK's Trump Victory Parade.

darkpagandeath

Rented Mule wrote: »

The ironic part of all of this is that they're protesting in Blue States.

If they want to make a difference, go down to North Carolina and Protest the KKK's Trump Victory Parade.

Will he be there ? Just like the Black panther celebration when Obama got in ? Obama did not go.

Grandeeod

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Can you imagine the riots and carnage that would be happening right now if Trump didn't win? Remember all the nonsence about vote fraud and rigged elections? Imagibe the trump supporters all pumped up on indignation about 'vote rigging'!

Trump's supporters would be much more vocal and willing to be disruptive than the rest of the country.

You might not like the protests but they're mild compared to the alternative

Thats mere speculation. The thread is about reality.

tipptom

gramar wrote: »

What you see is what you get
You've made your bed, you'd better lie in it
You choose your leaders and place your trust
As their lies wash you down and their promises rust
You'll see kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns
And the public wants what the public gets

The Jam.

We came out of it naturally the worst
Beaten and bloody and sick down my shirt
We were no match for their untamed wit
Though some of the lads said they would be back next week

Ulysses Gaze

Winterlong wrote: »

Do all countries not re-run elections/referendums until they get the decision that they want? Like we do?

Usually countries with benign, benevolent rulers like the type you'll find in Zimbabwe, Sudan et al.

Your Face

Another diarrhea thread about this pish.

Grandeeod

Your Face wrote: »

Another diarrhea thread about this pish.

Whats pish? Is it the Scottish version or urine?

chillin117

Grandeeod wrote: »

Whats pish? Is it the Scottish version or urine?

It's Donegal piss

El_Duderino 09

Venom wrote:

Over 40+ states asked the FBI to look into election rigging of polling machines so there were valid concerns. For all the talk of Trump supporters causing trouble, very little actually turned out to be true unlike the fact it was Clinton supporters (Who are now rioting in the streets) who were paid to start fights at Trump events which has been proven to be true.

Clinton isn't asked anyone to get angry or protest for her post election. If trump lost he would be on the TV more than ever telling people to take their country back. The Clinton supported aent covering themselves in glory but she has for the right thing and thus us tge result. He would have done the very opposite and it could be carnage over there right now.

El_Duderino 09

Grandeeod wrote:

Thats mere speculation. The thread is about reality.

The eality us that Trump has a track record of whinging, kicking, screaming and moaning when things don't go his way. If he lost, he would not have let it go like Clinton did. That's reality.

Some of her supporters are protesting without her encouragement. Trump would have encouraged protests. His protests would he bigger. I can't be any more realistic than that.

conorhal

Venom wrote: »

Their already backing down and claiming it was just "a joke" and they didn't really mean it :eek:



Over 40+ states asked the FBI to look into election rigging of polling machines so there were valid concerns. For all the talk of Trump supporters causing trouble, very little actually turned out to be true unlike the fact it was Clinton supporters (Who are now rioting in the streets) who were paid to start fights at Trump events which has been proven to be true.

But yeah its all Trumps fault :rolleyes:

Yeah? But what about all those racist riots by conservative McCain voters that went down when Obama won? Eh?

....Oh yeah, that didn't happen.