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The Black Oil wrote: »What's your next event, paddy?
Limerick Marathon on 30th April...
Was planning Connemara Marathon but logistics were a bit tricky and wanted to take some of the family with me. This way easier for them to watch and then entertain themselves for the few hours. 0 -
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From today's run. Merry Christmas to yiz.
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Quick note to let you all know I have *finally* managed to spend the last few euros of the very generous Amphibian King voucher you all got me after DCM16! A shiny pair of ASICS and some gels for the Connemarathon, finally got me over the line
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Sooo.... 4:16:44 for me in London. Slower than I hoped, but still a 4 minute PB so I'm happy enough, but learned some valuable lessons. A quick summary below:
London might be net downhill, but I found the sheer volume of runners makes it harder than it should be.
I set off just behind the 4 hour pacers and was coasting along nicely until we joined with the blue and green runners. At this point the blue 4:30 pacers joined bang in the middle of our red sub-4 group, with me behind them. Took me about a half a mile to get past them.
I caught up with my pacers and and decided to run just in front of them to find some space. This worked well, though I had the same congestion trouble with the blue 4:15 group, and I hit Tower Bridge in decent form and then half-way in 1:58. At this point I felt great so I just kept ticking over and thought I had the backup of the pacers if needed.
I have to say the crowds in London are AMAZING. Not just at the Cutty Sark, Tower Bridge etc. The whole course, bar a mile or so after you leave Canary Wharf, was absolutely jammed and the noise was incredible.
Round about mile 16 I started noticing a pain in my right toes. I had the timing tag on this foot and I don't think I tied my laces tight enough (hindsight is a great thing). This pain got more intense with each mile to the point where I'd take a drink then squirt the remaining water over my foot to relieve the heat. Now I was starting to feel the effects of the sun as well and I was slowing down a bit.
My pacers passed me on mile 18. I did actually put in a kick and stayed with them for a bit, but they started pulling away and I couldn't get them back. The last 6 miles slowed down quite a bit and I had to walk a few times with the pain.
I did manage to pick it up a bit on miles 24/25 as I passed all the cheer points, but ran out of steam again and it certainly wasn't a sprint finish.
I've never suffered from rubbing/blisters before, but my middle toe is raw and has blisters on the top and bottom. It also seemed much warmer than forecast and I saw way more people being treated than in Dublin.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the time. A couple of weeks off now before I ease back and I'm pretty certain I'll be hitting Dublin again this year. London ballot opens next Monday
Well done ToriV on a great time and to everyone else that ran Connemarathon. Not sure I could handle those hills!0 -
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Sooo.... 4:16:44 for me in London. Slower than I hoped, but still a 4 minute PB so I'm happy enough, but learned some valuable lessons. A quick summary below:
London might be net downhill, but I found the sheer volume of runners makes it harder than it should be.
I set off just behind the 4 hour pacers and was coasting along nicely until we joined with the blue and green runners. At this point the blue 4:30 pacers joined bang in the middle of our red sub-4 group, with me behind them. Took me about a half a mile to get past them.
I caught up with my pacers and and decided to run just in front of them to find some space. This worked well, though I had the same congestion trouble with the blue 4:15 group, and I hit Tower Bridge in decent form and then half-way in 1:58. At this point I felt great so I just kept ticking over and thought I had the backup of the pacers if needed.
I have to say the crowds in London are AMAZING. Not just at the Cutty Sark, Tower Bridge etc. The whole course, bar a mile or so after you leave Canary Wharf, was absolutely jammed and the noise was incredible.
Round about mile 16 I started noticing a pain in my right toes. I had the timing tag on this foot and I don't think I tied my laces tight enough (hindsight is a great thing). This pain got more intense with each mile to the point where I'd take a drink then squirt the remaining water over my foot to relieve the heat. Now I was starting to feel the effects of the sun as well and I was slowing down a bit.
My pacers passed me on mile 18. I did actually put in a kick and stayed with them for a bit, but they started pulling away and I couldn't get them back. The last 6 miles slowed down quite a bit and I had to walk a few times with the pain.
I did manage to pick it up a bit on miles 24/25 as I passed all the cheer points, but ran out of steam again and it certainly wasn't a sprint finish.
I've never suffered from rubbing/blisters before, but my middle toe is raw and has blisters on the top and bottom. It also seemed much warmer than forecast and I saw way more people being treated than in Dublin.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the time. A couple of weeks off now before I ease back and I'm pretty certain I'll be hitting Dublin again this year. London ballot opens next Monday
Well done ToriV on a great time and to everyone else that ran Connemarathon. Not sure I could handle those hills!
Well done - not an easy thing to run through. I have heard the congestion complaints before about London, bound to happen with so many runners and starting corrals.
Enjoy the rest and congrats again!0 -
Sooo.... 4:16:44 for me in London. Slower than I hoped, but still a 4 minute PB so I'm happy enough, but learned some valuable lessons. A quick summary below:
London might be net downhill, but I found the sheer volume of runners makes it harder than it should be.
I set off just behind the 4 hour pacers and was coasting along nicely until we joined with the blue and green runners. At this point the blue 4:30 pacers joined bang in the middle of our red sub-4 group, with me behind them. Took me about a half a mile to get past them.
I caught up with my pacers and and decided to run just in front of them to find some space. This worked well, though I had the same congestion trouble with the blue 4:15 group, and I hit Tower Bridge in decent form and then half-way in 1:58. At this point I felt great so I just kept ticking over and thought I had the backup of the pacers if needed.
I have to say the crowds in London are AMAZING. Not just at the Cutty Sark, Tower Bridge etc. The whole course, bar a mile or so after you leave Canary Wharf, was absolutely jammed and the noise was incredible.
Round about mile 16 I started noticing a pain in my right toes. I had the timing tag on this foot and I don't think I tied my laces tight enough (hindsight is a great thing). This pain got more intense with each mile to the point where I'd take a drink then squirt the remaining water over my foot to relieve the heat. Now I was starting to feel the effects of the sun as well and I was slowing down a bit.
My pacers passed me on mile 18. I did actually put in a kick and stayed with them for a bit, but they started pulling away and I couldn't get them back. The last 6 miles slowed down quite a bit and I had to walk a few times with the pain.
I did manage to pick it up a bit on miles 24/25 as I passed all the cheer points, but ran out of steam again and it certainly wasn't a sprint finish.
I've never suffered from rubbing/blisters before, but my middle toe is raw and has blisters on the top and bottom. It also seemed much warmer than forecast and I saw way more people being treated than in Dublin.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the time. A couple of weeks off now before I ease back and I'm pretty certain I'll be hitting Dublin again this year. London ballot opens next Monday
Well done ToriV on a great time and to everyone else that ran Connemarathon. Not sure I could handle those hills!
A few weeks off now till DCM 2017 training... Its those final 6 miles that are worrying bit for me and then the unknown's, such as equipment malfunction!
Well done on the marathon and its another bit of experience under the belt.
Can I ask were you far more relaxed going into it than you were for DCM? I am only starting to get that little bit nervous for Limerick now.. 3 days out. Wondering am I getting enough sleep.. which I am not!... am I drinking enough water.. which I am not!... Went for a 4M last night and felt lethargic but I do remember same during taper for DCM so I can pull upon that bit of experience.
Will see how it all goes and then use experience from that to plan for next one..:)0 -
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paddydriver wrote: »Limerick Marathon on 30th April...
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Good Evening All.. I won't even begin to come near my extremely long report for DCM 2016 so will keep this more brief, well a little..
I ran Limerick Marathon on Sunday last and all went great Thankfully. I started my taper with an 11M run last Sun week and then ran twice during week, on Weds for 3+M and then Sat leg stretcher for 3M. Went for physio sports massage on Weds morning early. I did not have a great week of sleep last week as I have been very busy with work and lots of other fronts with kids soccer etc.
I had it in my head to have faith in the taper as I did start to feel lethargic during the week and my legs had a few niggles, especially my right knee, but nothing major. My Sat run was extremely lethargic but I remembered this for DCM in that the taper was lazy.
Anyway, we headed down to Limerick Sat afternoon and I drove 2nd half.. I always do the driving so my wife was amazed I let her drive! Kids were up for an overnight adventure so all was good. Got checked in and I then ate down the still slightly warm rice, bean and beef burritos that my wife had made for me before we traveled.. why change a proven formula from day before DCM 2016.. Rest of the family then got pizza in Super Macs.. I had 2 slices..
Got up around 7 on Sunday for a 9AM off.. we were 5-10min walk from start. Arranged a late check out for latest 1:30 to try get shower.. Was I being ambitious.. just in case. Had my usual porridge and coffee for the laxative effect.. it worked!
So I got ready to start and weather was kind, forecast had not been good but on the morning it was good. Was overcast but mild enough with a little wind, but no rain.
I set my virtual pacer on the Garmin to 3:50 as I figured worth a rattle. I knew my training pace had been well up on DCM 2016 so felt confident. On the morning as I walked to start I really felt that taper had worked perfect, I had no niggles and legs felt strong. I was ready to go!
I set off and quickly found the 3:45 pacers so figured lets go with them and see how it goes, if all fails I can drop back to my A target of 3:50.. But all went really well. I comfortably stayed with the 3:45 group and it was a nice tidy group and the pacer (Declan) was very encouraging and knew we had banked some time as we progressed so kept us informed on this. I remember in DCM that the 4:00 pacer (Remember Red Balloon Man!!) kept getting away from me and I had to try catch them.. this time around I was cruising with no issues.
As we went thru 17, 18, 19.. I started to wonder will it hit me soon but I started to feel as though that I should be feeling the pressure at that stage but I wasn't. I was sub 8min miles all the way.. 5.10-5.15km.. Then at around mile 20-21 it just clicked.. we were going up a steady climb and Declan said we had plenty of seconds in the bank so we could pace it easy but my legs just wanted to kick on so all of a sudden I was now out front and I just got a rush of adrenaline as I passed into clear air, so I straightened up and just kicked off up the hill. The group behind me, and Declan's encouragement, started to get more and more distant and my times started to come down more and more. I knew I was moving well now and I was passing a lot of people.
I was now in my own little race as I did not want to get reeled back in to the 3:45 group as that would be defeat for me. I pushed and pushed to get clean air between us and it worked. The final few miles now looped a little and we had some sharp hills and a few double backs where I could see the half marathon and marathon traffic coming back and that did tease a little but I felt ready for anything. I found mile 24-25 a little tough but once I went thru mile 25 I knew I was killing it.. compared to DCM where I was just struggling to stay upright, I now knew I was going well and no matter what time I did now it was going to be a massive step up for me.
I came home in 3:41:59 which was a full 18 minutes better than DCM. All sub 8 minute miles and consistent pacing throughout with my best miles saved for the end. I crossed the line with 2 of my kids and held their arms aloft - whereas I practically fell over the line in DCM :eek:
What I learned from this is that if you put in the training then your body will perform for you on the day - assuming no injury and right racing conditions; and not going way too ambitious on pace! I took water with me between all water stops in order to constantly have a sip. For the sports drink stops I took a great tip from my pacer and just used it to rinse my mouth and get it under my tongue - that helped. I ate at mile 8 before I needed it and then nibbled again later on. I only took gels at planned intervals and did not take any for a placebo effect. My tummy did not give me any trouble this time, I was able to walk afterwards and head straight back to hotel for a shower and I got to enjoy and savour the moment.
Training wise.. I did not follow any special plans. I just got the miles in each week, never missed my long runs since DCM and did lots and lots of hills during the winter - proper hills! My weight is exact same as the day I started DCM but I feel to take it up a level now I need to get maybe 6-7kg off and that could be a big challenge but well worth it!
A great experience overall and absolutely delighted with my performance on the day. Didn't dare to dream I could get such a good time and I will definitely be back for more in DCM 2017!
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