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Ghost in the Shell-Live Action 2017

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Sunday is way too far away right now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    I've only seen the movie but Grace seems to have gone out and watched/read a bunch of the rest of the material.

    She gives a lot of information here.

    This probably contains spoilers but won't know till the film comes out:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I hate this new trailer of a trailer bull crap :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    I have watched the first 2 movies and I have the first dvd of the standalone complex so I know some of the story so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,272 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    Dialogue a little clunky but it looks amazing. Looking forward to this now.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Rupert Sanders…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    OH WOW

    OH WOW


    OHHHHHH WOW!


    I must say... fellows... I do feel a tad excited :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Slydice wrote: »
    OH WOW

    OH WOW


    OHHHHHH WOW!


    I must say... fellows... I do feel a tad excited :)

    I'm very skeptical of that trailer. It looks very Hollywood slick and that usually isn't a good thing.

    I hope they don't mess this up. Steer clear from the dialog from the second one also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,272 ✭✭✭EoinMcLovin


    First two minutes of the film


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Ok, it's gonna take an absolutely crap story to make these special effects alone not be worth a trip to the cinema... and I doubt it's gonna be a crap story

    The HYPE train is building! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭Sarn


    Looks good. I must dig out the old manga and refresh my memory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    So I have heard of Ghost in the Shell before but never looked it up so unlike other people I have nothing to compare it to.
    After watching that trailer though I'm looking forward to this.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Looks great, though for some reason I find the casting of SJ a bit jarring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭BuyersRemorse


    If the best they can manage is scene for scene recreations of the original anime (even down to the use of the original music for the shelling sequence), it doesn't say much for the creativity behind the project.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Watched GITS (1995) last night, I'm sure it was revolutionary at the time (4 years before the Matrix!) but has been copied a lot since (Deus Ex springs to mind, I Robot etc) so it's full impact is lost on me. I imagine this was mind-blowing in the mid-90s. There's a lot of philosophy and the essence of being etc which is interesting and engaging but a bit clunky/on the nose viewing with 2016 eyes - the cyberpunk/gritty detective thriller is absolutely ripe for a remake/update with modern writing. Looking forward to this new film!


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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Looks great, though for some reason I find the casting of SJ a bit jarring.

    I dunno - I feel like she's proven that she can handle this kind of movie - BlackWidow and Lucy. Even Under the Skin. So she has the skill and can pull off action/odd.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Nothing to do with acting ability, I really like her as an actress but something feels a bit off that I can't quite put my finger on. Have they tried to make her look slightly asian or something? I dunno, maybe it's because I have the original in my head too much.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,018 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    It looks incredibly similar to the original - some scenes seem pretty much verbatim - but what is there appears to lack some of the grace afforded by animation. A lot of the settings and characters worked thanks to the inherent remove of animation, but the trailer suggests they could just become a CG eyesore in live action. The lack of an established director is also worth a note of caution.

    On the plus side: Kitano.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭spacecoyote



    On the plus side: Kitano.

    This...great to see alright


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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Nothing to do with acting ability, I really like her as an actress but something feels a bit off that I can't quite put my finger on. Have they tried to make her look slightly asian or something? I dunno, maybe it's because I have the original in my head too much.

    It could be that I don't really have a personal attachment to the original that I just didn't spot any issues. Definitely didn't notice anything about her being slightly asian. I'll rewatch when I can and see. It wouldn't make sense to make her look slightly anything, given that the character in the source does look white regardless.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    It could be that I don't really have a personal attachment to the original that I just didn't spot any issues. Definitely didn't notice anything about her being slightly asian. I'll rewatch when I can and see. It wouldn't make sense to make her look slightly anything, given that the character in the source does look white regardless.

    Pretty sure the characters are mostly Japanese in the original anime, that doesn't mean it matters whether they're Japanese in this of course. From looking at it again I think it's just her hair do that's throwing me :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Yeah, the visuals are definitely striking, but what dialogue is there sounds incredibly clunky; I'd worry that this will be a film where everyone talks in grave tones or their remarks are laden with on-the-nose references to the themes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I rewatched the anime again last night , I am ridiculously excited for the live action version and I think Scarlett will be awesome in the role


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    First two minutes of the film
    Someone made a shot by shot comparison:
    [NSFW - Cartoon Bewbs! :)]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    New International Trailer.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Still looking very pretty!

    Completely off-topic, but the above trailer reminded me of a seemingly new trend in marketing, where the first 5 seconds of trailers is ... an intro, to the trailer you're about to watch. It's really bizarre, and i don't get the point of it at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Superbowl Spot!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,896 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Still looking very pretty!

    Completely off-topic, but the above trailer reminded me of a seemingly new trend in marketing, where the first 5 seconds of trailers is ... an intro, to the trailer you're about to watch. It's really bizarre, and i don't get the point of it at all.

    It's odd, along with the trend of trailers for trailers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Still looking very pretty!

    Completely off-topic, but the above trailer reminded me of a seemingly new trend in marketing, where the first 5 seconds of trailers is ... an intro, to the trailer you're about to watch. It's really bizarre, and i don't get the point of it at all.

    This is to stop people skipping the trailer if it appears as an advert. Usually there's a countdown to when you can skip it, around 5 seconds or so. If they can pique your interest in those 5 seconds you might just stick around to watch the full thing. So they just cram the best bits into it to entice you to stick around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I will say, i was completely disappointed when they replaced nudity with a nude suit. Especially when i found out it was Scarlett....

    Anyway, looks good to me, i won't be watching anything more to do with it until i go to see it. Best way to follow movies these days, avoid nearly everything to do with them until you've seen them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I will say, i was completely disappointed when they replaced nudity with a nude suit. Especially when i found out it was Scarlett....

    Yeah, like that was ever going to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    I can't wait for this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Scarlett Johansson is putting in a top performance in everything I've seen so far for this film.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The 'first 5 minutes' has been released (presumably trimmed a little for violence, language or whatever).

    The palette is certainly bold and colourful, so even if it transpires to be a poor adaptation, it may be something to enjoy visually anyway:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    One final trailer:



    I was surprised to hear that original theme again - it wasn't in the other trailers I've seen.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Much Longer, includes the last long trailer and then some



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    pixelburp wrote: »
    The 'first 5 minutes' has been released (presumably trimmed a little for violence, language or whatever).

    The palette is certainly bold and colourful, so even if it transpires to be a poor adaptation, it may be something to enjoy visually anyway:


    I lasted a minute and forty five seconds before coming to the conclusion that I'm not going to bother seeing this in the cinema.

    It's primarily my own "purists" fault, but it almost looks like they just played Syndicate and decided to follow the aesthetic of that (even to star Michael Wincott).

    Hang on... Batou doesn't have his ocular implants yet? So, they're going to work that in to the plot to pad it out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Gingervitis


    Early reviews are better than I thought it would be:
    62 on Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/movie/ghost-in-the-shell-2017?ref=hp
    67 on Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_in_the_shell_2017

    Considering my low expectations, might be worth a look. Consensus is that it's visually stunning while simplifying all the existentialism; par for the course for Hollywood.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Are the Tachikoma in it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Are the Tachikoma in it?

    Asking the important questions! :pac:

    Doesn't reference it on this page or in the synopsis, so it doesn't look like it.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Well that sucks :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Are the Tachikoma in it?

    nope


    simple review: its pretty much the stallone Judge Dredd movie all over again.

    Its a film with a star far too big for the role and an adaptation that decides to give an origin story to a character that didnt ever need one, a heavily sanitised version of the world with the same cliche plotline beats and a few key elements or characters recreated shot for shot for fans all wrapped in a soulless carcass of a film that touches all the expectations of the time (90's humour for Dredd and the heroes tale for today with all the trappings of franchising into a series for Shell)

    so not worth seeing, more so if you are a fan of the original, it'll just p*ss you off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭nix


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »


    simple review: its pretty much the stallone Judge Dredd movie all over again.

    I knew you'd say that...


    :D:D:D


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    nope


    simple review: its pretty much the stallone Judge Dredd movie all over again.

    Its a film with a star far too big for the role and an adaptation that decides to give an origin story to a character that didnt ever need one, a heavily sanitised version of the world with the same cliche plotline beats and a few key elements or characters recreated shot for shot for fans all wrapped in a soulless carcass of a film that touches all the expectations of the time (90's humour for Dredd and the heroes tale for today with all the trappings of franchising into a series for Shell)

    so not worth seeing, more so if you are a fan of the original, it'll just p*ss you off.

    That was the biggest red flag in the trailer for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Saw it last night, very meh. Nothing we haven't seen before. There wasn't an ounce of humour or personality in it, not sure how close it was to the source material (and I'm guessing the source material is the reason we've seen it all before).

    SJ was OK in the role, as you'd expect. Like a less-wry version of Black Widow. Effects were good but the fight sequences were nothing to write home about. Plot was pretty thin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Saw it last night, very meh. Nothing we haven't seen before. There wasn't an ounce of humour or personality in it, not sure how close it was to the source material (and I'm guessing the source material is the reason we've seen it all before).

    SJ was OK in the role, as you'd expect. Like a less-wry version of Black Widow. Effects were good but the fight sequences were nothing to write home about. Plot was pretty thin.

    If there's one good thing that comes from this, it's that I hope more people will be spurred to watch the 1995 movie.

    There's a great openculture article on it that was just posted recently (cautious of spoilers for the 1995 film!)

    http://www.openculture.com/2017/03/the-philosophy-storytelling-visual-creativity-of-ghost-in-the-shell.html

    (they've just recently started doing that "turn off your ad blocker" ad, disabling javascript on the page circumvents this)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭geraardo


    From what i have heard and the trailer i have seen its a lot of eye candy with the story falling short as usually happens with manga crossover films for me anyway, i can't think of any off the top of my head which have worked.

    I was listening to moncrieff this afternoon on news talk (movies and booze) and they were reviewing it and the prognosis was as i said above visually stunning cyber punk stuff but it just falls flat.

    Im a huge fan of the series myself so I'm undecided on whether to watch this as i don't want it to ruin the series of the animated ones i have in my head.

    If a person has no idea what the film is about they might see if differently from people who know the characters and what the film is about so might have a totally different take on it, and might just see it as a sci-fi film.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    I enjoyed it. I saw Ghost in the Shell in IMC Athlone. The film was very good. Unfortunately the cinema chose to show it on one the smaller screens. I could not read some of the subtitles during the showing because the were of screen. It really should have been shown on one of the larger screens. Not good management.


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