Is Aid for Africa Working?

Merowig

No - not all elites are corrupt.

As said companies / China pay for the resources - like companies pay for Oil from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE etc.
But even the Arabs have better politicians than Africa...

And several former colonies with no ressources at all in Asia are doing much better than African countries.

Dr Crayfish

Africa is a massive continent and sub Saharan Africa never had any history of any types of civilisations. Then whitey came along and enslaved them or ruled them with an iron fist. Then we broke the place up into countries and f**ked off. Dictators and mayhem became the norm.
Democracy and civilisation developed organically in Europe and Asia, in sub Saharan Africa they were millennia behind, still in the hunter gatherer stage.
Saying that they should have sorted themselves out by now is an ignorant comment in my opinion, they mostly had their current situations forced upon them with no experience in government and tribes at war etc.
I wish I knew a solution for them.

Merowig

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Africa is a massive continent and sub Saharan Africa never had any history of any types of civilisations. Then whitey came along and enslaved them or ruled them with an iron fist. Then we broke the place up into countries and f**ked off. Dictators and mayhem became the norm.
Democracy and civilisation developed organically in Europe and Asia, in sub Saharan Africa they were millennia behind, still in the hunter gatherer stage.
Saying that they should have sorted themselves out by now is an ignorant comment in my opinion, they mostly had their current situations forced upon them with no experience in government and tribes at war etc.
I wish I knew a solution for them.

Not all of Africa was hunter - gatherer societies
Great Zimbabwe had a great civilization - so has Aethiopia!

Kongo had a Kingdom with nobility, a feudal state and trade.
Benin - was a well organised empire - and an African state which traded in Slaves
Mali was a local empire as well
You had the Zulu Kingdom etc etc


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_empires
http://observationdeck.kinja.com/5-awesome-african-civilizations-that-arent-egypt-1688047907
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kingdoms_in_pre-colonial_Africa

Either you are the ignorant here or you are "racist"...

midnight city

The population of Ethiopia has doubled since 1984

Dr Jakub

goose2005 wrote: »

The African population is predicted to grow from 1 to 4 billion by 2100, so any rise in the economy is likely to be swallowed up by the rising population

Jesus Christ it will be Camp of the Saints.

At least I'll be dead before it gets really bad.

VladamirP

Merowig wrote: »

Not all of Africa was hunter - gatherer societies
Great Zimbabwe had a great civilization - so has Aethiopia!

Kongo had a Kingdom with nobility, a feudal state and trade.
Benin - was a well organised empire - and an African state which traded in Slaves
Mali was a local empire as well
You had the Zulu Kingdom etc etc


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_empires
http://observationdeck.kinja.com/5-awesome-african-civilizations-that-arent-egypt-1688047907
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kingdoms_in_pre-colonial_Africa

Either you are the ignorant here or you are "racist"...

I'm really not racist, but where are you from?

323

Does seem to be working very well for Toyota and Land Rover.:D

Skommando

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Africa is a massive continent and sub Saharan Africa never had any history of any types of civilisations. Then whitey came along and enslaved them or ruled them with an iron fist. Then we broke the place up into countries and f**ked off. Dictators and mayhem became the norm.
Democracy and civilisation developed organically in Europe and Asia, in sub Saharan Africa they were millennia behind, still in the hunter gatherer stage.
Saying that they should have sorted themselves out by now is an ignorant comment in my opinion, they mostly had their current situations forced upon them with no experience in government and tribes at war etc.
I wish I knew a solution for them.

self hating white people don't help either, don't kid yourself, black people can be just s evil as any evil white.
skin colour has nothing do to with how good or bad a person or group of people are.

the solution to Aftica's problems is not to move everyone from Africa to europe

midnight city

I they could stop the corruption they may have a chance.

darkpagandeath

midnight city wrote: »

I they could stop the corruption they may have a chance.

Yeah removing religious order preaching no contraception to.

Skommando

midnight city wrote: »

I they could stop the corruption they may have a chance.

maybe when we do something about it here we can start preaching to the africans

midnight city

Skommando wrote: »

maybe when we do something about it here we can start preaching to the africans

This is a thread about Africa and aid we are perfectly entitled to discuss why they may need aid. Their inability to deal with corruption contributes to their needs for aid. Whether we have corruption here really doesn't matter in that context. Ireland is not being discussed here.