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Colemania

tupac_healy wrote: »

Hey leave God out of this!

Never knew Jordon Ibe was God!

GT_TDI_150

Surely the other issue is that it just moves the 'auction' 3 months down the line if you assume that the players get added at the point where they still are at their 'small' clubs

Maldjd23

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Surely the other issue is that it just moves the 'auction' 3 months down the line if you assume that the players get added at the point where they still are at their 'small' clubs

At least then the small clubs can sell these players on if they choose. Or they can keep them.

tupac_healy

Colemania wrote:

I'm confused...... Didn't he say they'd be with Qpr and Wycombe?

He did...

Point being Liverpool couldn't grow a good player to save their life! (Que the massively over rated and semi-reired S Gerrard fans, who by the way never won the league.... just saying)


Lads, ye are arguing over nothing anyways, the method won't be changed

tupac_healy

Maldjd23 wrote:

Think ya misread my post!!!

Nope!

Just meant that I'd Sterling is the best claim to a Liverpool prospect ye are rightly ****ed!

Is it THAT bad that he is the best example!!!!

GT_TDI_150

Maldjd23 wrote: »

At least then the small clubs can sell these players on if they choose. Or they can keep them.

Take sterling and Ibe as the 2 examples .. they would be at externals ... so auction-like free for all again once their initial TBs are over



anyway ... ya win the league and start looking to change the world ... #powertrip

KERSPLAT!

tupac_healy wrote: »

Nope!

Just meant that I'd Sterling is the best claim to a Liverpool prospect ye are rightly ****ed!

Is it THAT bad that he is the best example!!!!

You clearly did He said QPR so why the need to point it out... he had admitted it! The hate is strong in this one

Maldjd23

tupac_healy wrote: »

Nope!

Just meant that I'd Sterling is the best claim to a Liverpool prospect ye are rightly ****ed!

Is it THAT bad that he is the best example!!!!

The opposite...I am claiming he wasn't a Liverpool prospect!!

I am saying that over the last few years he is the best player to break through at Anfield and Liverpool were not his first club. It was in answer to another poster who stated if players spawned at their original club then all the big clubs would get the top players as they start there and therfore the smaller clubs wouldn't have a chance of bagging anyone.

I was arguing they don't all start at big clubs and in many cases it is the exact opposite. The example was Sterling...

In fact how often do big clubs produce top players? Barca are an obvious example but who else?

Maldjd23

GT_TDI_150 wrote: »

Take sterling and Ibe as the 2 examples .. they would be at externals ... so auction-like free for all again once their initial TBs are over



anyway ... ya win the league and start looking to change the world ... #powertrip

Yep, but nobody cares about externals, i am talking about managed clubs. If we are talking about externals i believe the bidder with the weakest team or player in that position should get him.

An don't get me started on Bayern getting JuanFran or indeed me getting everyone in the player sale!!!

Anyway..As champ my opinion is worth more than yours...So zip it!!!!:pac::pac::pac::D:D:D

KERSPLAT!

Maldjd23 wrote: »

The opposite...I am claiming he wasn't a Liverpool prospect!!

I am saying that over the last few years he is the best player to break through at Anfield and Liverpool were not his first club. It was in answer to another poster who stated if players spawned at their original club then all the big clubs would get the top players as they start there and therfore the smaller clubs wouldn't have a chance of bagging anyone.

I was arguing they don't all start at big clubs and in many cases it is the exact opposite. The example was Sterling...

In fact how often do big clubs produce top players? Barca are an obvious example but who else?

I understand what you're saying but I think it's fine the way it is. As was said above, they'd be at externals and a free for all anyway...

Everyone has the opportunity to bid and nab the player. The mess of the value going up is a joke but sure, what can ya do?!

KERSPLAT!

Maldjd23 wrote: »

Yep, but nobody cares about externals, i am talking about managed clubs. If we are talking about externals i believe the bidder with the weakest team or player in that position should get him.

An don't get me started on Bayern getting JuanFran or indeed me getting everyone in the player sale!!!

Anyway..As champ my opinion is worth more than yours...So zip it!!!!:pac::pac::pac::D:D:D

Easy now. Don't hurt my feelings.

GT_TDI_150

This is like "SoccerManager.com (#1) The Boards.ie World" ... post after post of opinions ... I love it

tupac_healy

KERSPLAT! wrote:

You clearly did He said QPR so why the need to point it out... he had admitted it! The hate is strong in this one

Maldjd23 wrote:

The opposite...I am claiming he wasn't a Liverpool prospect!!

Okay.. I'll try another way to explain...

Basically I Bypassed the whole fundamentally pointless discussion that was being had (because IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE!) to have a RL Utd fan pop at a RL Liverpool fan in....

Better?



Should be able to read between the lines at this point lads ;-)

tupac_healy

KERSPLAT! wrote:

Everyone has the opportunity to bid and nab the player. The mess of the value going up is a joke but sure, what can ya do?!

Why is it a joke?

Tbh I quite like it, if you don't put in the work you don't get into the final round of bidding....

Forces more people to log on more often, where is the downside?

If they could FORCE those people to check PM whilst on they have it locked down imo

Maldjd23

tupac_healy wrote: »

Okay.. I'll try another way to explain...

Basically I Bypassed the whole fundamentally pointless discussion that was being had (because IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE!) to have a RL Utd fan pop at a RL Liverpool fan in....

Better?



Should be able to read between the lines at this point lads ;-)

Oh...I get it...Just refusing to acknowledge it!!!:D:D

KERSPLAT!

tupac_healy wrote: »

Why is it a joke?

Tbh I quite like it, if you don't put in the work you don't get into the final round of bidding....

Forces more people to log on more often, where is the downside?

If they could FORCE those people to check PM whilst on they have it locked down imo

It's obvious but I'll spell it out just for you

Price of player = x
Just before bids are accepted price of player = y
Price of player should remain x unless there is a change is the players stats, i.e rating, age, etc

KERSPLAT!

tupac_healy wrote: »

Why is it a joke?

Tbh I quite like it, if you don't put in the work you don't get into the final round of bidding....

Forces more people to log on more often, where is the downside?

If they could FORCE those people to check PM whilst on they have it locked down imo

Also, I check PMs all the time, sometimes I'm just not arsed replying to some people

tupac_healy

KERSPLAT! wrote:

Price of player = x Just before bids are accepted price of player = y Price of player should remain x unless there is a change is the players stats, i.e rating, age, etc

X + Y is the sum value of Z...

The other way of looking at it is, by changing the value of the existing player (let's call that a) to a higher value once added (let's call that b)

End result is c...

C = reward for those who put in more effort..

Damn, just been schooled son!

Colemania

It's ok Tupac, you can let out your frustration on us Liverpool fans. Wouldn't want the fans of the title favourites at the start of the season getting upset now would we?

KERSPLAT!

tupac_healy wrote: »

X + Y is the sum value of Z...

The other way of looking at it is, by changing the value of the existing player (let's call that a) to a higher value once added (let's call that b)

End result is c...

C = reward for those who put in more effort..

Damn, just been schooled son!

Good lord. Go on, I'll leave you to your schooling.

Maldjd23

Jesus..What have i started!!...I actually made the original point cause i thought the small teams were getting screwed

gerp99

Maldjd23 wrote: »

Jesus..What have i started!!...I actually made the original point cause i thought the small teams were getting screwed

Its all good, I signed him, everything worked out well in the end;)

GT_TDI_150

Now that thats sorted...

Multi studs or
Blades :mad:

baza Rakus

I love close season. Best time of the year.

Colemania

gerp99 wrote: »

Its all good, I signed him, everything worked out well in the end;)

I'll give you pulisic for him!













Ok no i'm not that thick :P

Damn you anyway!

mackeire

gerp99 wrote:

Its all good, I signed him, everything worked out well in the end

You sign everyone!!!! But thanks for selling me the keeper

tupac_healy

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Also, I check PMs all the time, sometimes I'm just not arsed replying to some people

Believe it or not your NOT on the naughty list when it comes to PMs or bids! In fact you'd be top 5 at getting back (always the wrong reply but that's a different topic!)

Wilberto

Just to wade in rather lately to the new players debate etc. they actually had the best system in place a while back where the chairman of lower rated teams seemed to value other players higher. This meant that lower rated teams could outbid the higher rated teams and is exactly why Cruzeiro are now in the strong position they are currently in.

We'll never have another team like Cruzeiro again as long as this system is in place.


Also, I remember a time when (not always I admit) but very often once a bid went in on a player it seemed like it would reset a timer to another 24 hours approximately to give a chance to other bidders to respond. The way it is now with bids for new players, people have very little time to change their bid which is incredibly unfair given that they had already bid the maximum they could at that time.


I think the key point though is that SM needs to remember that people have lives. Players shouldn't be punished because they can't log on every minute of every day simply due to things like oh, you know, work.

tupac_healy

Wilberto wrote:

I think the key point though is that SM needs to remember that people have lives. Players shouldn't be punished because they can't log on every minute of every day simply due to things like oh, you know, work.

Dude.... I work 12.5 hour shifts 3 days a week.... 2 kids...... football training twice a week... etc etc....

I've yet to get caught out on a valuation change.... if you want the player you will remember to log back in, that simple..


I had ALL my bids in (A LOT) for players that because available from unmanaged the same day as my WEDDING!

#smpriorities

No excuses lads, you don't adjust your bid you don't deserve to be in the final round of the auction. Simple as that

KERSPLAT!

Priorities... I've another word for that

SM is far down the list of my priorities I can tell you, I would have thought the same of most here