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Getting rid of Closed account taglines

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    #32
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Seems reasonable. Is there a notification if your and PM somebody that their account is closed? Or maybe even replying as that could get confusing. And also waste peoples time. May have been answered I did not read thoroughly.


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    #33
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,722 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Lovely Bloke wrote: »
    tagline or no, the likes of us, and eventually everyone, is going to know a blank tagline is a closed account.
    My blank tagline isn't a closed account. So, no, it won't mean that.


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    #34
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,365 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    There's a mod who closed her account 18 months-2 years ago. At that time her profile clearly said Closed Account. I don't know if it's since the new site, but now it says she's a registered user...I presume you can't reactivate a closed a/c, so I guess this is a glitch.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #35
    editorsean
    Registered Users Posts: 777 ✭✭✭editorsean


    Another suggestion would be to change the tagline to something neutral such as 'Guest', similar to the tagline vbulletin shows by default if guest posting is enabled.

    If the final decision is to get rid of the closed account taglines, I would suggest adding a CSS style tag such as 'display:none' to collapse the empty space.


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    #36
    MugMugs
    Registered Users Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Good idea. You've got bigger fish to fry over this I would have thought?
    The Black Oil wrote: »
    There's a mod who closed her account 18 months-2 years ago. At that time her profile clearly said Closed Account. I don't know if it's since the new site, but now it says she's a registered user...I presume you can't reactivate a closed a/c, so I guess this is a glitch.

    If their ID can be confirmed by an Admin the old account is renamed and then their new account is renamed to their old name...... If that makes sense.


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    #37
    Big Turd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27 ✭Big Turd


    Boards.ie Mark
    One of the first things that I did when joining Boards was I went through a variety of Feedback threads across the site to see what issues were being highlighted.




    Keep it up Mark!

    I'm liking the Boards News Thread over in announcements aswell. Keep doing it. You could automatically subscribe everyone to that forum so people know that you guys might finally be starting to listen.

    New Forums created in a week rather than fecking years like it has been taking! Lord almighty!!

    All badly needed.

    You could do with bringing down (or look at doing away with?)the usage restrictions for new users/accounts, bit of a PITA they are!

    I forget how to do manual quotes, theirs a slash in there somewhere.


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    #38
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,363 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    I doubt I'm alone in liking being able to see the Closed Account tag.
    Maybe have it as option (defaulted off) in user cp?


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    #39
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    I doubt I'm alone in liking being able to see the Closed Account tag.
    Maybe have it as option (defaulted off) in user cp?

    Blank will be closed. Grand job.


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    #40
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Does the user have the option to remove all posts, threads, they partook in, if closed account, rather than appear to be still a site member?


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    #41
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Does the user have the option to remove all posts, threads, they partook in, if closed account, rather than appear to be still a site member?

    Nope. This is covered in the Terms of Use, IIRC.


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    #42
    Lavinia
    Registered Users Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Lavinia


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    I doubt I'm alone in liking being able to see the Closed Account tag.
    Maybe have it as option (defaulted off) in user cp?

    I too like it as that is the truth.

    Why hide the truth to "appear better"?

    You could at least leave it as a setting for user to choose but don't remove it, thanks.


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    #43
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    Nope. This is covered in the Terms of Use, IIRC.

    But how do you know If a user is still a member or not, just by regular posting?

    As for removing all posts, it has been reported on other sites such as reddit that you have indeed deleted every post and account from certain users who are in the courts or on the news??


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    #44
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,294 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    As for removing all posts, it has been reported on other sites such as reddit that you have indeed deleted every post and account from certain users who are in the courts or on the news??

    If there's an ongoing legal case and there's a chance that certain posts by, or about an individual, could be construed as potentially having a bearing on the case, then Boards is legally obliged to remove them to avoid being in contempt of court.


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    #45
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Zaph wrote: »
    If there's an ongoing legal case and there's a chance that certain posts by, or about an individual, could be construed as potentially having a bearing on the case, then Boards is legally obliged to remove them to avoid being in contempt of court.

    Ahh cheers. Was curious.


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    #46
    Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    The Closed Account tagline change has been rolled out now.
    Big Turd wrote: »
    Boards.ie Mark

    You could do with bringing down (or look at doing away with?)the usage restrictions for new users/accounts, bit of a PITA they are!

    Funny you should mention that

    How can I? User's guide to some features on the new site



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    #47
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Boards.ie: Mark wrote: »
    The Closed Account tagline change has been rolled out now.



    Funny you should mention that

    So yourself and the mods etc had a discussion, decided it would be best if the 'Closed Account' tag was removed. Yet the only people who cannot tell if an account is closed or not now are non-mods.

    Transparency has always been a challenge for the site, it's getting worse.

    Removing the Closed Tag from user profiles reminds me of that movie 'Weekend at Bernies".


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    #48
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    The decision was based on feedback received from site members.


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    #49
    Cathmandooo
    Registered Users Posts: 17,324 ✭✭✭✭Cathmandooo


    How come some closed account users still have stars under their name and others don't?

    A random example, I picked this thread

    Two posters seem to have closed accounts, both with thousands of posts under the belts but one has stars and the other doesn't

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70124141&postcount=2
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70141176&postcount=8

    Personally I like the Closed Account tag gone, it somehow looks better. I like the stars though too so not sure why some have them and others don't


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    #50
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    May as well get rid of the Registered User tagline too. It serves no purpose that I can see.


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    #51
    Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Mark
    Boards.ie Employee


    Cathmandooo wrote: »
    Personally I like the Closed Account tag gone, it somehow looks better. I like the stars though too so not sure why some have them and others don't

    The rank (which results in the stars on display) is actually cleared when an account is closed, so no closed account should have them. However, there is some inconsistent data, most likely from rollbacks and data restores, which has led to some keeping them.

    How can I? User's guide to some features on the new site



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    #52
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    The decision was based on feedback received from site members.

    From some site members.

    Of course the people who made the decision to close their accounts don't get much say. Those that didn't comment are a voice in the wilderness also.

    Removing the tagline to increase public perception that the fora are a welcoming, happy place is window dressing, and more so for advertisers.

    Its getting akin to the skewing of subscribers base numbers that pay television companies use to fiddle their popularity.

    It would have been better to tackle the problem of why the contributors of content (some prolific) close accounts, not the labeling of those accounts, however embarrassing.

    I say that as someone who has been there and seen the shenanigans that goes on with posts in the feedback forum deleted, prior to the contributor eventually making the decision to close their account.

    There can be little trust without transparency.


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    #53
    Unknown Soldier
    Registered Users Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭Unknown Soldier


    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Does the user have the option to remove all posts, threads, they partook in, if closed account, rather than appear to be still a site member?
    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    Nope. This is covered in the Terms of Use, IIRC.


    The grey area is for people who stopped using the site before the TOUs came in.

    You used to just get an email from Regi (I think) Saying Welcome.


    On topic... Does anyone have a link to the original thread where people were asking for this change or the topic was discussed?


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    #54
    Pawwed Rig
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,355 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    STB. wrote: »
    From some site members.

    Of course the people who made the decision to close their accounts don't get much say. Those that didn't comment are a voice in the wilderness also.

    How exactly do you suggest feedback is collected from those that don't want to give it? The only way I can think of is annoying pop ups that would have me off the site before the end of the day.

    Where feedback is collected then it would not make sense not to react to that feedback as has been done here.


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    #55
    Chorus_suck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 487 ✭✭Chorus_suck


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    #56
    Pawwed Rig
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,355 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Such as?


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    Chorus_suck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 487 ✭✭Chorus_suck


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    #58
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    How exactly do you suggest feedback is collected from those that don't want to give it? The only way I can think of is annoying pop ups that would have me off the site before the end of the day.

    Where feedback is collected then it would not make sense not to react to that feedback as has been done here.

    If you are implementing change and there is value attached to the people who contribute, you can find a way.

    Are the the people who didn't see that discussion and didn't respond perceived as fine with how things are tagged or fine with the changes ?

    I contribute to this forum and I didn't see anything.

    If the decision was made through discussion by those who moderate rather than contribute or do a little bit of both then just say so, but I am not swallowing that it was by popular demand.

    Its not the end of the world regardless of the decision, but my argument here is to tackle the problem, not the aftermath which is to pretend that people are not closing their accounts.

    Vanity is my favourite sin. :)


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    #59
    TherapyBoy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭TherapyBoy


    Chorus_suck wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Removing the 'closed account' tagline was discussed in the "Is Boards becoming a ghost town?" thread. Feedback received & acted upon.

    Moderator: Non Drinkers Group & Grand Theft Auto



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    #60
    STB.
    Registered Users Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    TherapyBoy wrote: »
    Removing the 'closed account' tagline was discussed in the "Is Boards becoming a ghost town?" thread. Feedback received & acted upon.

    in the interests of vanity and advertisers or whom exactly ?


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    Chorus_suck
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 487 ✭✭Chorus_suck


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