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Heavy Rainfall in Kerry - 02nd to 04th Oct 2016

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Good for you! I enjoy extreme events, you obviously don't.
    Well most people would consider it barmy to enjoy 6 inches of rain in 36hrs
    Can't imagine much flooding at Valentia itself but no doubt parts of the county itself have seen some.
    Well Thats a bit of an understatement

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/kerry-floods-close-roads-motorists-8974542


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    ArKl0w wrote: »

    Understatement and an Irish Mirror article should never go together:D


    Please please don't turn this into a "WHY DO YOU LIKE WEATHER THAT I DON'T LIKE" type winter again. It's really boring. We know eachother, we know that our opinions differ, can we not just all deal with that?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,066 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Measured the water in the gauge this evening here near Tralee and got 41mm for the event, ( from midnight Sun till about 16.00 today )

    Great to see the bright sunny evening after all the rain.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    Fanore was beautiful this evening,off shore warm breeze and nice surfing conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    Well most people would consider it barmy to enjoy 6 inches of rain in 36hrs

    I am not 'most people' so throw your pseudo moral outrage and laughable indignation in their direction, because they are wasted on me.

    ArKl0w wrote: »

    How, HOW exactly is that an 'understatement'? All I see on that link is a confirmation to what I said?

    If you are going to be deliberately antagonistic, at least come at me with something of substance first.

    New Moon



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Understatement and an Irish Mirror article should never go together:D


    Please please don't turn this into a "WHY DO YOU LIKE WEATHER THAT I DON'T LIKE" type winter again. It's really boring. We know eachother, we know that our opinions differ, can we not just all deal with that?
    It's not even interesting weather though,it's just ordinary incessant rain

    My problem isn't actually with that anyway,its with the lack of empathy bring it on attitude given the misery in the Shannon basin for most of the winter
    That's what's barmy
    The warning in the thread title is apt and pertinent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    It's not even interesting weather though,it's just ordinary incessant rain

    My problem isn't actually with that anyway,its with the lack of empathy bring it on attitude given the misery in the Shannon basin for most of the winter
    That's what's barmy
    The warning in the thread title is apt and pertinent

    I don't feel Empathy for people building in flood plains.

    Anyway that's really besides the point. Yeah it is a weather warning to warn vulnerable people in vulnerable areas, that's a good thing. I don't see why I should only see misery when others do.

    I've said all this before though, it's not listened to it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    My problem isn't actually with that anyway,its with the lack of empathy bring it on attitude given the misery in the Shannon basin for most of the winter
    That's what's barmy
    The warning in the thread title is apt and pertinent

    I don't recall anyone on here showing a lack of empathy last winter during those floods Arklow? I would love to see a F5 tornado, but that does not mean to say that I would like to see any one killed or have their homes damaged and livelihoods destroyed or anything. It is a weather forum, and as a dedicated 'community' we are going to have opinions like this, as paradoxical as they may be at face value.

    BTW, haven't seen SyranB on here in a while, miss his stats big time.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭Mr Bumble


    This was an extraordinary rain event in some parts of Kerry. Lough Currane rose by about three feet Sunday night/Monday morning and by at least nother three since. It's still rising and will for a a day or two yet. I have never seen this before and people who have lived and worked as ghillies on the lake a long time say they have never seen it come up so fast or so high at any time of the year. High tide tonight won't help.
    What was also striking was how localised some of it was (at least while I was there). Driving through Cahirciveen, the first river on the way out of the town had a slightly higher than normal flow and the next one served by a different mountain catchment was raging. It was dry in Killorglin at midday.
    Re Grace above. She lives on the southern side of the Ring up in the Blackwater valley which would have likely born the brunt. I don't know her but figured this from some of her snaps and descriptions. She doesn't seem well from those posts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭secman


    "She doesn't seem well from those posts"
    Used to enjoy reading her descriptive posts, a bit of a character it seems, hopefully she is okay.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I don't recall anyone on here showing a lack of empathy last winter during those floods Arklow? I would love to see a F5 tornado, but that does not mean to say that I would like to see any one killed or have their homes damaged and livelihoods destroyed or anything. It is a weather forum, and as a dedicated 'community' we are going to have opinions like this, as paradoxical as they may be at face value.

    .
    Good,I'm glad you've clarified that,and anyway I'm no saint :p For as scarey and dangerous as lightning is,ya gotta love it
    Or piles and piles of snow despite hypothermia or misery for old people but I like to think we mitigate those by looking after each other

    Rain is miserable though so borderline impossible for me or most people to like what it does when it piles up or like it at all unless there's lots of thunder of course
    One would soon lose patience with it if it's ones own roof that caves in under the snow or is flooded or struck by lightning etc which is where the empathy comes in also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    Rain is miserable though so borderline impossible for me or most people to like what it does when it piles up or like it at all unless there's lots of thunder of course

    A nice cup of tea and a fire is just lovely when it rains:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    secman wrote: »
    "She doesn't seem well from those posts"
    Used to enjoy reading her descriptive posts, a bit of a character it seems, hopefully she is okay.

    Well, she did get a "Come back to Boards"offer from one of the Chiefs and she has not replied. I really hope she is well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    ArKl0w wrote: »

    Rain is miserable though so borderline impossible for me or most people to like what it does when it piles up or like it at all unless there's lots of thunder of course

    I love a good downpour though because I love the rain. Not that type of rain that you can just about detect on your skin on a gloomy damp day, (I.E, the most common type of rain in this country) but the real thing which is why I enjoyed the rains of December last year immensely, though I do know all too well that this same event caused untold misery for many.

    New Moon



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,959 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    I miss both Grace and Syran'B's posts as well. They both made great posts. As for Syran B he always posted about his area but that was his opinion and his local knowledge, a few people where a bit harsh on him for posting his own viewpoint, he is entitled as everyone of us to post our own viewpoints. Hopefully both will be back here posting soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    I love a good downpour though because I love the rain. Not that type of rain that you can just about detect on your skin on a gloomy damp day, (I.E, the most common type of rain in this country) but the real thing which is why I enjoyed the rains of December last year immensely, though I do know all too well that this same event caused untold misery for many.

    I understand where you're coming from. I really enjoyed October 2011 here in South Dublin. My main memory from it was going for a drive in the late evening (at the height of the event) to try to get some video footage of the flooding. But the mission quickly turned into more of a survival expedition and getting video footage was forgotten about. Absolute mayhem with impassable roads, rivers flowing down streets, fire engines all over the place pumping water, manhole covers dancing on the road with water bellowing out from underneath, and all the while rain smashing relentlessly against the windscreen making visibility terrible. It was a bad idea going out and I was glad to get home but it was an awesome experience.

    http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/weather-events/HeavyRain241011.pdf

    Unfortunately 2 people died and many people suffered property damage, so obviously I'd much prefer if the event never happened. But I still think it's ok that I enjoyed my personal experience of the event.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    A nice cup of tea and a fire is just lovely when it rains:D

    Or if you're into whitewater canoeing, then you will always fancy a bit of rain!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭Totofan99


    Valentia Observatory sets a new record. 105.5mm in 24 hours.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1004/821455-rain-west-counties/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭fraxinus1


    The banning of Graces7 is a miscarriage of justice. I do not believe that she recieved the amount of warnings etc as stated in the prison forum.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Mod Note: Can we end discussion and speculation on other members here/now. It is not relevant to this forum.
    fraxinus1 wrote: »
    The banning of Graces7...

    For the record, that particular member was not (permanently) banned...they have chosen (for whatever reason) not to post. In addition, that particular member was never banned or infracted on the weather forum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    Just checked my station and since 00:01 Monday 3rd Oct until 23:59 4th October ..we got 69mm of rain here in Mid Kerry

    Makes a nice change to see a blue sky this morning


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Total of 162.0mm for Valentia between Sunday evening and yesterday evening (in approx. 48 hours).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Gerry Murphy on radio one this morning said one of the climate stations in Kerry recorded over 200mm of rain in the 36 hr period. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭weisses


    This was a red warning level event for kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    weisses wrote: »
    This was a red warning level event for kerry

    How so?

    Although the criteria are there, realistically the damage was minimal, so I don't think Red Criteria and all that is associated with it would have been correct. Some localised parts, which are well used to rain received alot.

    If it was a widespread event, with rain of 200mm all over Kerry forecast meaning widespread flooding was possible then I'd imagine red would fit the equation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭weisses


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    How so?

    Although the criteria are there, realistically the damage was minimal, so I don't think Red Criteria and all that is associated with it would have been correct. Some localised parts, which are well used to rain received alot.

    If it was a widespread event, with rain of 200mm all over Kerry forecast meaning widespread flooding was possible then I'd imagine red would fit the equation.

    Saying the damage was minimal is a non runner

    The criteria for red is 70 MM. in 24 hour and they forecasted an amount of up,to 150 MM ... Parts recorded over 200mm

    What is next ? A Massive red level storm being downgraded to orange because they are used to that kind of weather in the west ?

    There are clear criteria set for these levels .. They should not be subject to interpretation imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    weisses wrote: »
    Saying the damage was minimal is a non runner

    The criteria for red is 70 MM. in 24 hour and they forecasted an amount of up,to 150 MM ... Parts recorded over 200mm

    What is next ? A Massive red level storm being downgraded to orange because they are used to that kind of weather in the west ?

    There are clear criteria set for these levels .. They should not be subject to interpretation imo

    Missed my point completely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Synoptic evolution (from Oct 1-4) of that front which brought those locally high rainfall totals to parts of Kerry - just to keep it on record like.

    chartmo.gif

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭weisses


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Synoptic evolution (from Oct 1-4) of that front which brought those locally high rainfall totals to parts of Kerry - just to keep it on record like.

    chartmo.gif

    That will go next to the Darwin folder :D


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