RAW Superthread

CastorTroy

So Dominik gets a chance at a title shot ahead of multiple others?

"So we have so few tag teams that we have to give the belts to 2 singles stars. Maybe we should make more?" "Nah start splitting exiting teams up"
Remember they started a feud between them before but then stopped?

Think that Retribution appearance near the end confirms Mia is definitely a member, unless she was just playing the role this week.

Marina Shafir just back from a summer vacation to a desert somewhere?

J. Marston

They're pushing the wrong Iconic.

PTH2009

J. Marston wrote: »

They're pushing the wrong Iconic.

christ Whatculture podcast will be unberable

J. Marston

PTH2009 wrote: »

christ Whatculture podcast will be unberable

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Agent Coulson

J. Marston wrote: »

?

Whatculture guys have a fixation for the iconics.

CastorTroy

Which one are they pushing? Peyton?

Agent Coulson

The one that's married to Spears.

PTH2009

J. Marston wrote: »

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One of the guys keeps shouting 'ICONIC' and its bloody irritating

beakerjoe

PTH2009 wrote: »

One of the guys keeps shouting 'ICONIC' and its bloody irritating

Dont they both do that?

Better as a team, as Lord stated they hide eachothers plaws. Why the need to split them?

Lord TSC

beakerjoe wrote: »

Why the need to split them?

Vince has openly stated he sees Royce as a singles star, possibly as the top woman in the company. You can see they started shaping her to that end more recently; dying the hair, the bodybuilding competitions, etc.

What I think is hilarious is these "The team needs to split" stipulations that apparently means they can't even be friends any more. Ok, they cant operate as a tag team. Keep Kay as a manager for Royce then. Best of both worlds.

Kay was by far the more charismatic; if you think of their catchphrases and memes, it's usually Kay saying them. She'll hopefully get paired with someone else. She's said she's happy to be a valet too.

Ridley

Lord TSC wrote: »

Loving the Lee push. Loved the detail that even though Randy hit him with the RKO, he trusted the Spirit Bomb more and pinned Seth. Protects Lee and puts his finisher over.

Rollins and Orton were on good form that night. That "ahHA!" from Rollins when he finally got Keithly in a headlock like he'd cracked the code and now victory was inevitable.

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1/ Retribution should not look like Tozawa's ninjas.
2/ One of the groups should change their look.
3/ If you're going go to with being Japanese for a gimmick, Tozawa Rangers is right there.

This moment 16 to 20 seconds in is easily my favourite part of Raw though:

Tozawa chauffeuring his own entourage is a great bit of characterisation.

CastorTroy

That reminded me, you'd think by now that the WWE superstars would recognise a ref without relying on seeing the shirt.

I'm waiting for a showdown between the ninjas and Retribution

ThePott

What a weird Raw.

Such an arbitrary decision and stipulation to just break up the Iiconics out of nowhere. It's a shame, I like them and considering the shortage of women's tag teams brekaign up one of the few legit ones you have is just odd.

Totally in for another Mickie James/Asuka match on the other hand.

Retribution and Raw Underground at this point are just duds. There's clearly no end goal for any of them and as soon as Rertibution are unveiled I doubt they'll even be featured that often. They're not even interrupting important stuff anymore and are now apparently sticking to Raw.

Randy/Drew again, okay then.
Wondering where Dominik goes from here.

The White Wolf

It's pretty crap that Drew's reign will likely end to serve another storyline. Fcuk me they should hang their heads in shame. Does anyone really want to see Orton and Edge feud over the title in 2020?

Loughc

ThePott wrote: »

Wondering where Dominik goes from here.

Off to the performance centre hopefully.

Loughc

The White Wolf wrote: »

Does anyone really want to see Orton and Edge feud over the title in 2020?

Nope.

Thankfully they will feud for the title in 2021.

The White Wolf

Loughc wrote: »

Nope.

Thankfully they will feud for the title in 2021.

Now now sir no need to be getting thick. :pac: I'm aware Edge is out injured but we all know this is who Randy will ultimately face and drop the title to.

beakerjoe

The White Wolf wrote: »

It's pretty crap that Drew's reign will likely end to serve another storyline. Fcuk me they should hang their heads in shame. Does anyone really want to see Orton and Edge feud over the title in 2020?

Its hardly a bad sign for Drew. Hes done massively well since being champ despite the pandemic, hes been booked strong and protected and has done his best with whats been given to him.

Orton has been WWEs MVP this year. Further proof a motivated Orton is fantastic. Him and Edge have the feud of the year and I wouldnt mind seeing another match for the title

Agent Coulson

Will Dominik and Roman fued over who has the best chest protector at some stage.

CastorTroy

Going by last night's Raw, did Aleister Black get a massive face tattoo? Looks to go from his eye to his neck

Lord TSC

CastorTroy wrote: »

Going by last night's Raw, did Aleister Black get a massive face tattoo? Looks to go from his eye to his neck

Looked it. Def was something peeking out beneath the eyepatch.

CastorTroy

Had another look and I was wrong about his neck. that looks like an old one, but definitely goes to the bottom of his nose.

Speaking of Aleister, saw once again last night that he's a lucky guy

PTH2009

Maybe it's war paint or something and it will be part of his gimmick going forward

Face painted Wrestlers is a bit rare these days, suppose its takes to long to put on each night

The Ayatolla

CastorTroy wrote: »

Speaking of Aleister, saw once again last night that he's a lucky guy

How do ya mean? What happened?

The Ayatolla

Ridley wrote: »

Rollins and Orton were on good form that night. That "ahHA!" from Rollins when he finally got Keithly in a headlock like he'd cracked the code and now victory was inevitable.

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1/ Retribution should not look like Tozawa's ninjas.
2/ One of the groups should change their look.
3/ If you're going go to with being Japanese for a gimmick, Tozawa Rangers is right there.

This moment 16 to 20 seconds in is easily my favourite part of Raw though:

Tozawa chauffeuring his own entourage is a great bit of characterisation.

That match was more entertaining than both main title matches at Wrestlemania this year.

johnnysmack

The Ayatolla wrote: »

How do ya mean? What happened?

Zelina vega

DM_7

Dominik is really good. Bit of a young Jeff Hardy about him. Nice to see someone arrive from nowhere like that, freshens things up.

beakerjoe

Hes super green and should be in development for a while, but he has potential.

DM_7

beakerjoe wrote: »

Hes super green and should be in development for a while, but he has potential.

As someone who now dips in and out rather than watches a whole lot, but watched enough in recent times to be still familiar with the development guys, it was very refreshing to see a guy who I had not seen before and did not know what to expect.

A bit like when a new sports player breaks through, we see the flashes of potential that also make you want to see how far they can go, how good will they become. With the older 30(+) crowd they are as good as they are going to be and it is just not as interesting.

PTH2009

Michael Cole filling in for Tom Phillips