RAW Superthread

Lord TSC

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

What's with KO losing to every top babyface on Raw since he moved? He'll probably win MITB now.

This is how Vince always books people before "big wins". I don't know if the idea is to fool viewers and make them think someone has no chance. You can usually tell when a cash in is coming cause the holder goes on a horrific losing streak.

Anyway....

I'm enjoying the B Team. It's nonsense, but I always find that whenever Axel gets given something, anything, to do, he entertains me. Every circus needs clowns and he's one of the best they have.

The Nal

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Think this was the first Raw in forever where I scrolled on all the clips on YouTube and said to myself "nah, not arsed even watching 3 minutes of that."

I feel increasingly weird that it's wrestling outside of WWE that I'm more interested in, as traditionally I was never interested in anything outside of the E.

I just skim read the Bleacher Report. Have done for a couple of years now. They show the odd clip. Sunday Night Heat was better than modern day Raw.

Thepoet85

Not a single post in the lead up or duration of the show.

I've personally lost interest in the product but I guess I'm not alone.

cagefactor

Thepoet85 wrote: »

Not a single post in the lead up or duration of the show.

I've personally lost interest in the product but I guess I'm not alone.

not the only one, cannot be arsed watching the roman reigns show.

Lithium93_

Look at WWE's stuff, then look at what NJPW have cooked up for their Dominion show for Saturday night Tokyo time/early Sunday morning here.

sky88

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Look at WWE's stuff, then look at what NJPW have cooked up for their Dominion show for Saturday night Tokyo time/early Sunday morning here.

think im just a bit fatigued with wrestling at the minute cause nothing interests me at all.

wwe is just constantly making bad booking decisions.

the bullet club is the most overhyped stuff ive seen in a long time.


but on positive notes i think both companies putting out a lot of top quality matches even if im not a fan of booking or storylines happening around them

jaykhunter

sky88 wrote: »

think im just a bit fatigued with wrestling at the minute cause nothing interests me at all.

Dude head to the network and watch some old SNME's. Holy **** the star power and the shows are 40-60 MINUTES LONG OHMYGOORRERRRERRRRRRR!

ERG89

jaykhunter wrote:

Dude head to the network and watch some old SNME's. Holy **** the star power and the shows are 40-60 MINUTES LONG OHMYGOORRERRRERRRRRRR!

The Ultimate Maniacs are no Jinder & Elias

WinnyThePoo

Oh my gawd what is macho mahal doing on on the impact zone!

WinnyThePoo

Oh my gawd what is macho mahal doing on on the impact zone!

CastorTroy

So we're going to have brother versus brother in the tag title match, but will they acknowledge it?

sky88

CastorTroy wrote: »

So we're going to have brother versus brother in the tag title match, but will they acknowledge it?

Omg i honestly forgot they were related

J. Marston

I thought referee's decisions were final? That's what they were repeating when **** Pheasant lost in Saudi Arabia but now Kurt is just changing winners backstage? And how thick is Bayley supposed to be? "I'll just walk into this match." but why did the ref allow it? And Sasha and Bayley are friends again this week?

And why am I analysing this shít?!

PTH2009

very meh raw tbh

The big show returend for an special olympics spot (very nice of Balor to include the guys for his entrance)

The shield returned again minus Dean Ambrose but at the end of the day were getting bloody Reigns vs Jinder

There ruining Bobby Lashley, his segment went nowhere and it just ended with him going off smiling after being heavly disrespected by Zayn. He should of ran after him wanting to kill him ???

Bobby Roode vs Strowman was ok

the womens and Tag team stuff meh

So Baron Corbin is now co running Raw

CastorTroy

I think it was last week when Bo won and was celebrating, for a second he looked exactly like Bray.

As for Bayley, she's not the first one to come out during a match to replace a missing partner.

The whole thing with Nia was confusing, after heeling it up last week.

And how many times are the women going to tweak their knee. Charlotte lost to Carmella because of it, then Nattie and Alexa in the same night

Micheal Clark

Day by day WWE is losing its touch. They don't have superstars to carry the company name..

sky88

Micheal Clark wrote: »

Day by day WWE is losing its touch. They don't have superstars to carry the company name..

yet the company is as good financially as its ever been

jaykhunter

Ya with it's $2,000,000,000 TV deals WWE are doing alright. It sucks for fans as our opinion has never meant less. As long as WWE do the minimum audience numbers FOX/USA want, doesn't matter what we think. It sucks as we've gotten two HORRENDOUS raws since, it's almost a screw-you to their watching/paying audience.

sky88

jaykhunter wrote: »

Ya with it's $2,000,000,000 TV deals WWE are doing alright. It sucks for fans as our opinion has never meant less. As long as WWE do the minimum audience numbers FOX/USA want, doesn't matter what we think. It sucks as we've gotten two HORRENDOUS raws since, it's almost a screw-you to their watching/paying audience.

youd hope that with the tv deals it gives them some form of financial security that they would try some new things and take some risks.

the thing is if there appealing to the causl fans enough and that theres always be that hardcore falling who are going to watch even if its hate watching that they keep ratings up

ERG89

sky88 wrote:

youd hope that with the tv deals it gives them some form of financial security that they would try some new things and take some risks.

Nah like when WCW closed I expect the product to get lazier & show that they are in a comfort zone.
They are helped by having a very overly loyal base of fans cause that's who got them the TV deals Raw the last few weeks have already been bad.

CastorTroy

Anyone remember Authors of Pain?
I forgot about them until I saw them mentioned elsewhere. Why weren't they in the Battle Royal? I know it's better that they weren't since The B Team had to win.

PTH2009

CastorTroy wrote: »

Anyone remember Authors of Pain?
I forgot about them until I saw them mentioned elsewhere. Why weren't they in the Battle Royal? I know it's better that they weren't since The B Team had to win.

they were on the Euro live event circuit in the cannon fodder match teaming with Curt Hawkins and the Ancesion. They were often on Main Event

I wonder will they attack whoever wins the tag team match between Bray/Matt Hardy and the B team and really start there main roster careers ??

SureYWouldntYa

CastorTroy wrote: »

Anyone remember Authors of Pain?
I forgot about them until I saw them mentioned elsewhere. Why weren't they in the Battle Royal? I know it's better that they weren't since The B Team had to win.

Theyre just generic big men without Paul Ellering, for me he gave them authenticity and presence

I thought the screwing up of the revival was bad but at least their misfortune can be put down to injuries

PTH2009

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Theyre just generic big men without Paul Ellering, for me he gave them authenticity and presence

I thought the screwing up of the revival was bad but at least their misfortune can be put down to injuries

They would not even make good singles stars either way too genric

dont give up hope yet they might be holding them back for something big!!!. lets hope they dont go down the route of Rivival and Ancesion. Poor Sanity must be pretty nervous looking at what has happend to NXT teams on the main roster

WinnyThePoo

When you watch what these guys are capable in nxt. Then bo Dallas is going over. Not that I have anything agsinst
The tag belts are all over the place. Certainly on raw.

DM_7

The Authors of Pain would be perfect henchmen for someone who is on the injury list. They even have the right gear to link in with his old group.

Mr. Guappa

This is the problem with this new trend of debuting acts on the post WM shows. They throw them out there for the big pop, but without a long-term plan.

Lashley, AOP, Almas, Iconics, Ember. For lack of a better term, they've all lost that new car smell already. They could have debuted one of those a month between Raw and Summerslam, with a proper plan in place. Keeps the weekly shows interesting and fresh, and you're always on the lookout for who will show up next.

They've held Sanity back. Optimistically I'll hope with a plan in mind, but it's more likely Vince doesn't like them and they'll join the likes of Ascension in wasting away.

CastorTroy

DM_7 wrote: »

The Authors of Pain would be perfect henchmen for someone who is on the injury list. They even have the right gear to link in with his old group.

Dean must be due back soon I'd say.

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

This is the problem with this new trend of debuting acts on the post WM shows. They throw them out there for the big pop, but without a long-term plan.

Lashley, AOP, Almas, Iconics, Ember. For lack of a better term, they've all lost that new car smell already. They could have debuted one of those a month between Raw and Summerslam, with a proper plan in place. Keeps the weekly shows interesting and fresh, and you're always on the lookout for who will show up next.

They've held Sanity back. Optimistically I'll hope with a plan in mind, but it's more likely Vince doesn't like them and they'll join the likes of Ascension in wasting away.

Yeah they have trouble using who they have and without anyone leaving, they bring more in

Agent Coulson

Of course it was never going to happen but the WWE missed a trick not putting the AOP with Roman right after WM.


He couldn’t beat Brock but he can now with his monster back up.

It keeps Brock strong having those three take him out and it gives Roman proper heat that can be used in time to give him the baby face run Vince wants after a real and proper heel run.

Lord TSC

Could be worse for AoP

At least they debuted when they got the call up. Sanity seems to have gone missing after their vignette videos.