2017 Season Ticket

statto25

Outstanding attendances updated now folks for Kerry Mayo

Pretty.Odd.

Anyone's attendance for the Kilkenny/Waterford match update yet?

Muntz39

Our attendance for KK Vs WD not updated yet anyway....

mayo.mick

Thats some stinker of a mail just sent out to season ticket holders. Now if they'd only put as much effort into the numerous scanning problem issues. Instead of point blank refusing to even engage with people having scanning problems. I agree 100% with them about the abuse of tickets and they should cancel anyone caught.

km79

mayo.mick wrote: »

Thats some stinker of a mail just sent out to season ticket holders. Now if they'd only put as much effort into the numerous scanning problem issues. Instead of point blank refusing to even engage with people having scanning problems. I agree 100% with them about the abuse of tickets and they should cancel anyone caught.

Just after reading it
Now that's an angry email !

Trent Houseboat

I'm pretty sure they send that out every year.

mayo.mick

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

I'm pretty sure they send that out every year.

This is the worst one yet

statto25

To me this is the first step in them taking away the ST scheme. They will push this over the coming year while doing feck all to stop it or resolve the scanning issues. Then at the end of the year they will pull the plug saying it's no longer feasible due to misuse of the product.

munchkin_utd

what was the email, was it people looking to get a clatter of tickets scanned for attendance when nobody was there or the wrong people using a card ?

mayo.mick

munchkin_utd wrote: »

what was the email, was it people looking to get a clatter of tickets scanned for attendance when nobody was there or the wrong people using a card ?

They have a valid point about the abuse of the season tickets by some people. You can by the way give your ticket for someone else to use if you cant go yourself. The issue is people standing outside a ground with 10/15 tickets giving them to people just to get them scanned. I've seen this happen myself. I have also seen people go in, come out another gate and go back in again scanning a different card :mad:

What maddens me though is when you use your season ticket as you should, but for some reason your attendance isn't recorded. Croke Park point blank refuse to even listen to you, or try to find out what the issue is. It has happened many people many times. My nephew went in a different stile in Killarney on Saturday evening, his was updated at 12 yesterday. Myself and a friend went in a different stile, neither of our cards were updated until this morning, and I'm assuming that it was only for Kerry county board saying that there was a problem with a scanner.

Muntz39

I'd agree - this seems like the latest step in a process to eventually discontinue the season ticket...

It seems someone is hell-bent on making it less attractive each year. For example they have upped the prices in the last few years, doubled the price of the juvenile ticket and removed the early bird offer.


I strongly suspect the County Boards don't like it as the season ticket allocation for an All-Ireland Final comes straight out of the county's overall allocation and eventually they will make sure the scheme is disbanded.

The angry email on the misuse of tickets is nonsense and as the poster said a cover reason for ultimately shutting it down. I'd have no issue with anyone passing on their ticket to someone to get it scanned, makes no difference to me one way or the other, so long as I maintain a 60% attendance rate I'm still entitled to a ticket for the final no matter what anyone else does....

statto25

mayo.mick wrote: »

They have a valid point about the abuse of the season tickets by some people. You can by the way give your ticket for someone else to use if you cant go yourself. The issue is people standing outside a ground with 10/15 tickets giving them to people just to get them scanned. I've seen this happen myself. I have also seen people go in, come out another gate and go back in again scanning a different card :mad:

What maddens me though is when you use your season ticket as you should, but for some reason your attendance isn't recorded. Croke Park point blank refuse to even listen to you, or try to find out what the issue is. It has happened many people many times. My nephew went in a different stile in Killarney on Saturday evening, his was updated at 12 yesterday. Myself and a friend went in a different stile, neither of our cards were updated until this morning, and I'm assuming that it was only for Kerry county board saying that there was a problem with a scanner.

The card system is used the world over but is usually integrated with the turnstile and the scanning is done by the card holder. If you scan correctly then you gain access. Doing this across the country is never going to happen so why not pair the scanners with a small printer, you scan the ticket and if successful you get a small receipt or acknowledgement. The cost of those would be miniscule compared to automated turnstiles and then if the scanner doesnt upload correctly you have some comeback.
This "tough sh1t" attitude when you have an issue is not right for a product where you could spend €300 depending on how successful your team is.

PTH2009

So I'm down as attended for the kilkenny vs Waterford game but my dad who was with me is down as not attended ??
How does he go about fixing it ?

yop

With the 2017 Allianz Leagues having commenced in both codes the GAA Ticket Office would like to draw attention to some issues that have been witnessed by GAA Ticket Office staff and also have brought to our attention over the opening two weekends.

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING:

The presentation of multiple season ticket cards or tickets for scanning at turnstles in order to falsify attendance records for non-attending Season Ticket holders is strictly prohibited.
Adults will not be permitted entry to a fixture using a Juvenile (U16) GAA Season Ticket card.
GAA Season Ticket holders are not permitted to transfer Season Ticket cards at Match Day venues.
Similarly, GAA Season Ticket holders are not permitted to enter a ground using a Season Ticket card and then exit a ground in order to try and re-enter using a different GAA Season Ticket card.
We have witnessed such incidents and also been informed by County Boards, and by fellow Season Ticket holders that these types of incidents have occured at multiple venues over the past two weekends.

The above practices completely undermine the entire Season Ticket product and also undermine the GAA Season Ticket Holders who have travelled, some of them huge distances, to attend a particular fixture.

We have issued a directive to all County Boards to note the details of any Season Ticket cards which are abused in this manner. If a GAA Season Ticket card within an account is found to be used in any of the aforementioned ways, we will have no option but to cancel all GAA Season Tickets within that account.

Le meas,

GAA Ticket Office

Trampas

No matter what they do people will always find a way around it. That's just reality.

Gaa I say don't care as they get their money. Reality the ST is getting bigger attendance if not there. Thousands wouldn't go to games without the option of the ai final ticket across counties. Is attendance number based on ticket scan or turnstile click?

It's county boards care as said already as they're down tickets. If you take a video going into turnstile will they accept that as proof?

They know when there's a problem but just put their heads in the sand and hope it goes away

seligehgit

Are people seriously suggesting that there's an agenda within the GAA to disband the season ticket scheme?I'm well aware of the possible motives behind same,just curious as to whither there is any likelihood of same happening.I really hope to God there is no truth to this suggestion as it is a fair means of rewarding supporters who take the trouble of regularly supporting their county in the flesh,whilst it is a guaranteed source of revenue for the GAA.

Mayo Club 51

Emails sent out to season ticket holders this morning has made it to the Irish examiner today, http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa-warn-season-ticket-holders-over-abuse-of-loyalty-system-776928.html

Stoner

mayo.mick wrote:

Thats some stinker of a mail just sent out to season ticket holders. Now if they'd only put as much effort into the numerous scanning problem issues. Instead of point blank refusing to even engage with people having scanning problems. I agree 100% with them about the abuse of tickets and they should cancel anyone caught.

Got that too.

However for us Mayo and Dublin fans with no renewals it's a different story. My son is only 20 months so he can't go yet so my wife minds him, my friend, on a list now for 5 years used hers last year with a 100 percent attendance record. No way I've giving up that ticket as she's back in a year or so with himself going too as it should be . We've had the ticket for years

But if we surrender that , nobody else gets it , we won't get another in two years. It's not all abuse. Some of its is just holding your own.

They should allow transfers or recognise that waiting list that was ignored last year again.

Stoner

seligehgit wrote:

Are people seriously suggesting that there's an agenda within the GAA to disband the season ticket scheme?I'm well aware of the possible motives behind same,just curious as to whither there is any likelihood of same happening.I really hope to God there is no truth to this suggestion as it is a fair means of rewarding supporters who take the trouble of regularly supporting their county in the flesh,whilst it is a guaranteed source of revenue for the GAA.

I think they do want to get rid of it.
They want more control over the championship tickets, they don't like the fact that you can get tickets without contributing to a club.
I see the logic in it. Just doesn't suit me.

ProudDUB

Stoner wrote: »

Got that too.

However for us Mayo and Dublin fans with no renewals it's a different story. My son is only 20 months so he can't go yet so my wife minds him, my friend, on a list now for 5 years used hers last year with a 100 percent attendance record. No way I've giving up that ticket as she's back in a year or so with himself going too as it should be . We've had the ticket for years

But if we surrender that , nobody else gets it , we won't get another in two years. It's not all abuse. Some of its is just holding your own.

They should allow transfers or recognise that waiting list that was ignored last year again.

I don't think you are the target audience for their email. They don't have a problem with a ST holder giving their ticket to a friend or a family member to use, if they can't go themselves. If you make a private arrangement for someone that you know, to go in your (or your wifes) stead, that is fine.

Their beef is the whole scale abuse of the program, whereby people show up on match day, with a whole bunch of ST cards and tickets. They are then getting total strangers to use the "freebie" tickets and get their ST card scanned, thereby depriving the GAA of the revenue from the paying punters, as well as falsely inflating the attendance of a bunch of absent ST holders.

Stoner

ProudDUB wrote:

I don't think you are the target audience for their email. They don't have a problem with a ST holder giving their ticket to a friend or a family member to use, if they can't go themselves. If you make a private arrangement for someone that you know, to go in your (or your wifes) stead, that is fine.

Possibly, but it would be difficult to know the difference all the same.

It would help if you could transfer the tickets

irishgeo

It's all about the lost money trust me.

seligehgit

irishgeo wrote: »

It's all about the lost money trust me.

I don't really get this.The cost of the season ticket incorporates the admission fees for the league games.The first championship game is free with the subsequent five euro reduction on any additional games.Hardly a massive loss of monies.Who's to assume these season ticket holders would be replaced by others?In the past regular supporters struggled greatly to get a ticket for an All Ireland final because they weren't involved in a club or in spite of club membership the club's ticket allocation was insufficient hence the inherent fairness of this scheme.I'd imagine many of these supporters might drift away rather than suffer the hassle of begging for tickets as happened in the past.

I suspect the crux of the issue is as Stoner mentioned the want of the County Boards to have full control of their share of tickets for All Ireland finals.Yet you could count on one hand the number of games in a year where allocating tickets primarily in Croker becomes a real live issue.The GAA realises the scheme doesn't necessarily encourage supporters to become involved in their club.Their slapstick and frankly amateurish methods for oftentimes scanning tickets at regional grounds is fraught with difficulties and largely self inflicted.

TBH I think it's laughable that they are possibly contemplating bringing an end to the scheme.Attendance revenues are up in spite of falling attendances.Attendances at league matches are greatly inflated due to the presence of season ticket holders,ditto the championship.I agree with the ability to transfer a ticket to a relative/loved one but this racket of scanning multiple tickets is beyond a joke.

yop

Stoner wrote: »

I think they do want to get rid of it.
They want more control over the championship tickets, they don't like the fact that you can get tickets without contributing to a club.
I see the logic in it. Just doesn't suit me.

Fully agree with you on that. And I do think they are "losing" money. I'm probably over shooting it but the GAA are more about the business than the fans anymore.
Considering the attendance swell that Dub and Mayo ST holders bring to games its incredible.

I have to agree with AnnMarie, its way out of line.

That said I know of one lad who was thrown out in Kerry last Saturday, went out twice, scanned, went out a third time and was spotted.
Can't have sympathy.

celticbest

I have to say I love how easily rumours start, because of one email restating what every Season ticket holders has known for years.

You cannot scan multiple tickets.
You cannot use a Juvenile ticket if you are an Adult etc.
You cannot pass ticket randomly outside a ground.

http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/GaaIe/Tickets/13/56/50/GAASeasonTicket2017_TermsConditions_Neutral.pdf

It’s nothing new.

I’ve never once heard the GAA saying they want rid of Season tickets, they are a guaranteed revenue stream every year from which the GAA can actually make money if a person only attends the minimum 60% of games to guarantee an AI Final ticket.

I for one would stop attending games it they stopped the scheme. I haven’t missed a game home or away (including O’Byrne Cup) since Dublin played Donegal in April 2013 & the only reason I missed that was because I was dying with the worst dose of the flu EVER….

For the usual political reason I’m no longer affiliated to a Club and even if I was still a member it wouldn’t guarantee me an AI Final ticket if Dublin reached it as demand always outweighs supply. Hence why the Season Ticket is so important to me and I’m sure anyone else who has one.

Diabhal Beag

They just told me my ticket didn't scan in Tullamore and I'm the only one who had this issue. The only one.

statto25

celticbest wrote: »

I have to say I love how easily rumours start, because of one email restating what every Season ticket holders has known for years.

You cannot scan multiple tickets.
You cannot use a Juvenile ticket if you are an Adult etc.
You cannot pass ticket randomly outside a ground.

http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/GaaIe/Tickets/13/56/50/GAASeasonTicket2017_TermsConditions_Neutral.pdf

It’s nothing new.

I’ve never once heard the GAA saying they want rid of Season tickets, they are a guaranteed revenue stream every year from which the GAA can actually make money if a person only attends the minimum 60% of games to guarantee an AI Final ticket.

I for one would stop attending games it they stopped the scheme. I haven’t missed a game home or away (including O’Byrne Cup) since Dublin played Donegal in April 2013 & the only reason I missed that was because I was dying with the worst dose of the flu EVER….

For the usual political reason I’m no longer affiliated to a Club and even if I was still a member it wouldn’t guarantee me an AI Final ticket if Dublin reached it as demand always outweighs supply. Hence why the Season Ticket is so important to me and I’m sure anyone else who has one.

They are making the scheme less attractive by increasing the price in the recent years and also by their no tolerance policy on scanning issues. They are also guilty of moving season ticket users into corners of the stadium for finals to make way for the Average Joe supporter. Now I know everyone cant sit in the "good seats" but when you are sitting in a good central stand seat for every game in the AI series and all of a sudden you're in 301 of the Cusack Stand for the final. This hasnt happened to me but has happened to friends and clubmates so Ive no grudge in this regard, just making a point.

Mayo Club 51

Heads up for any season ticket holders wanting to go to the intermidiate and junior finals in Croke Park. Season tickets holders can attend for free. Just need your card and entry via Hogan stand, unreserved seating.

AIB GAA Junior and Intermediate Club Championship Finals February 18th & 19th at Croke Park - ST Account: ********

A Chara,
Your 2017 GAA Season Ticket covers entry to the AIB GAA Junior and Intermediate Club Championship Finals at Croke Park on February 18th & 19th.
If you wish to attend the club finals this weekend simply present your Season Ticket card for scanning at the Hogan Stand turnstiles. Please note that only the Lower Hogan Stand is open on both days and unreserved seating will be in operation.
_________________________________________________________________
SEASON TICKET INFORMATION ON GAA WEBSITE
A reminder that all relevant Season Ticket Holder information, such as the above, will be published weekly on the Official GAA Website:
SEASON TICKET MATCH DAY INFORMATION
Le meas,
GAA Ticket Office

Tinkerbell4484

Quick question, says on Gaa tickets.ie "all Allianz league matches in your code I.e football or hurling"
So if I have a season ticket, can I go and watch any league match so long as it's a Gaelic and not hurling match?

mayo.mick

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Quick question, says on Gaa tickets.ie "all Allianz league matches in your code I.e football or hurling"
So if I have a season ticket, can I go and watch any league match so long as it's a Gaelic and not hurling match?

Yip, but its code specific, football OR hurling. I've done it a good few times. Sent my tickets for dublin game to a mate in Dublin even though we were in Tralee at same time. Croker games tough are print out.