Taxpayer pays 42k Per Month for........

Gringo180

Accommodation for the Irish Ambassador to Japan in Tokyo.

Scandalous: New report reveals the State is spending the costly sum of €46,000 a month on an apartment for Ireland’s ambassador to Japan.

According to a recent report published in the Mail on Sunday, it is understood the Irish Government is currently shelling out the hefty sum of €46,000 a month on a premises in Tokyo, for Ireland’s ambassador to Japan.

The report which states the Department of Foreign Affairs is actively seeking a more permanent solution, also found that the cost of the ambassador’s residence in the Japanese City cost more than double the price of any other property rented by the department last year.

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http://theliberal.ie/scandalous-new-report-reveals-the-state-is-spending-the-costly-sum-of-e46000-a-month-on-an-apartment-for-irelands-ambassador-to-japan/

Heartbreaking stuff when you see such a waste of taxpayers money, especially with the huge increase of homelessness and suicide rates in the country.

They should just buy a place in Tokyo, that'll be cheaper I'm sure.

frozenfrozen

"Cost more than double any other any other property" so there's more than a few people put up in 20,000+ pm accommodation? (Or just any building they rent?.. I've just re read it, so there is actually loads of them. )

Sounds mental. Very annoying to be pinching my own money, worrying about literally one or two euro here and there, and then the tax money just having some significant percent of it just thrown into the abyss in cases like this. If it was their own money they'd be more careful

Subcomandante Marcos

You think that's bad?

We're currently paying the rent for an entire block of offices (Carrisbrook House in Dublin 4) of which only a floor of which is in use, to house the Israeli Embassy.

Have done for years. €990,000 per year (€82,500 per month!) in rents, which had cost €4,700,000 by 2013 so you're looking at €7,670,000 in the last 8 or so years.

vandriver

Gringo180 wrote: »

Accommodation for the Irish Ambassador to Japan in Tokyo.

Scandalous: New report reveals the State is spending the costly sum of €46,000 a month on an apartment for Ireland’s ambassador to Japan.

According to a recent report published in the Mail on Sunday, it is understood the Irish Government is currently shelling out the hefty sum of €46,000 a month on a premises in Tokyo, for Ireland’s ambassador to Japan.

Has anyone intimated that this price is out of kilter for that market?
It would be scandalous if we were paying over the odds in terms of the Tokyo apartment rental market,but as usual the fine journalists at the Mail on Sunday haven't bothered to find out.

Subcomandante Marcos

vandriver wrote: »

Has anyone intimated that this price is out of kilter for that market?
It would be scandalous if we were paying over the odds in terms of the Tokyo apartment rental market,but as usual the fine journalists at the Mail on Sunday haven't bothered to find out.

Do you honestly think many apartments in Tokyo are being rented at that price?

Rowley Birkin QC

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think that's bad?

We're currently paying the rent for an entire block of offices (Carrisbrook House in Dublin 4) of which only a floor of which is in use, to house the Israeli Embassy.

Have done for years. €990,000 per year (€82,500 per month!) in rents, which had cost €4,700,000 by 2013 so you're looking at €7,670,000 in the last 8 or so years.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/forfas-pays-out-47m-to-rent-empty-premises-224637.html

That is pretty nuts alright. What's the reason behind the lack of replacement tenants? Security fears?

Turtyturd

But doesn't that cost include....

Subcomandante Marcos

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/forfas-pays-out-47m-to-rent-empty-premises-224637.html

That is pretty nuts alright. What's the reason behind the lack of replacement tenants? Security fears?

I doubt it's a security issue at all to be honest. Just idiocy of the highest level.

Gringo180

But sure isn't it all the dole heads fault :D

If people only opened there eyes to the waste of tax payers money on stuff like this instead of slating some people who are unfortunate enough to be on the live register and living a horrible lifestyle, scraping to make ends meat, and in a lot of cases through know fault of there own :rolleyes:

snotboogie

It is scandalously priced but Irish Ambassador's residences host functions numerous times a week. Their residences are not just for housing the ambassador and his/her family.

Turtyturd

....Godzilla insurance?

tayto lover

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think that's bad?

We're currently paying the rent for an entire block of offices (Carrisbrook House in Dublin 4) of which only a floor of which is in use, to house the Israeli Embassy.

Have done for years. €990,000 per year (€82,500 per month!) in rents, which had cost €4,700,000 by 2013 so you're looking at €7,670,000 in the last 8 or so years.

Could we not put a load of homeless people in the remainder of the building to give them ah ... security.:D

Grayson

It's not like the ambassador can couch surf or airbnb it whilst he's there.

Turtyturd

Wonder what his monthly bill is...

Clarebelly

snotboogie wrote: »

It is scandalously priced but Irish Ambassador's residences host functions numerous times a week.

I'm afraid to ask what they are spending on Ferrero rocher......

Samaris

Good grief, one taxpayer is paying out 42k a month? Poor bugger. S/he should probably seek legal aid.

minikin

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think that's bad?

We're currently paying the rent for an entire block of offices (Carrisbrook House in Dublin 4) of which only a floor of which is in use, to house the Israeli Embassy.

Have done for years. €990,000 per year (€82,500 per month!) in rents, which had cost €4,700,000 by 2013 so you're looking at €7,670,000 in the last 8 or so years.

Fill the other seven floors with Syrian refugees.

Grayson

Clarebelly wrote: »

I'm afraid to ask what they are spending on Ferrero rocher......

Depends on how much he's spoiling them.

Dravokivich

Why is this shocking?

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vandriver

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Do you honestly think many apartments in Tokyo are being rented at that price?

I wouldn't imagine that there are many apartments of the right size,in the right location,in one of the most overcrowded cities in one of the most overcrowded countries in the world.

BrokenArrows

Grayson wrote: »

It's not like the ambassador can couch surf or airbnb it whilst he's there.

He could stay in the 5* hyatt hotel in Tokyo for a month for 20k so im pretty sure they should be able to rent somewhere for less money.

Idbatterim

But sure isn't it all the dole heads fault

If people only opened there eyes to the waste of tax payers money on stuff like this instead of slating some people who are unfortunate enough to be on the live register and living a horrible lifestyle, scraping to make ends meat, and in a lot of cases through know fault of there own

One cost 20,000 a month, the other costs closer to 2,000,000,000 a month...

but for sure, there should be a major evaluation of value for money with the public and civil service, particularly with regards to public sector procurement. We spend 13,000,000,000 a year on this, I can only imagine the fantastic value for money we are getting!

Here's a suggestion. No direct public sector pay increases, they can however have a potion of any savings secured from reduced procurement costs...

byronbay2

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think that's bad?

We're currently paying the rent for an entire block of offices (Carrisbrook House in Dublin 4) of which only a floor of which is in use, to house the Israeli Embassy.

Have done for years. €990,000 per year (€82,500 per month!) in rents, which had cost €4,700,000 by 2013 so you're looking at €7,670,000 in the last 8 or so years.

Yes, the Israeli Embassy only takes up one floor but they have put a few settlers on each of the other floors and claimed ownership of them!

artanevilla

Deleted User wrote: »

They should just buy a place in Tokyo, that'll be cheaper I'm sure.

You try and save for a deposit when your rent is 42k a month.

Gringo180

Idbatterim wrote: »

One cost 20,000 a month, the other costs closer to 2,000,000,000 a month...

Hardly a fair comparison considering this is just one of hundreds of examples of the government squandering money.

Birneybau

Clarebelly wrote: »

I'm afraid to ask what they are spending on Ferrero rocher......

Its....

Specialun

Shocking stuff..this money could have gone to the people on the dole and on more social housing

gctest50

Gringo180 wrote: »

Accommodation for the Irish Ambassador to Japan in Tokyo.

Scandalous: New report reveals the State is spending the costly sum of €46,000 a month on an apartment for Ireland’s ambassador to Japan.
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Heartbreaking stuff when you see such a waste of taxpayers money, especially with the huge increase of homelessness and suicide rates in the country.

The Irish trade balance with Japan :

goods exports of €2.1bn in 2012 and imports of €798m while services exports were at €2.7bn and imports of €0.9bn.

osarusan

I did a search and you can get a 230sqm 4 bedroom apartment in Chiyoda-ku (same part of Tokyo as the embassy) for 1.1 million yen a month, which is about 9,500 euro a month.

ChikiChiki

Dravokivich wrote: »

Why is this shocking?

Because we are cash strapped. Do you not think 42,000 and 990,000 respectively in Japan and with the Israelis in Ballsbridge is a complete waste of taxpayer funds?

Arcade_Tryer

Corrupt country is corrupt.

And I'm not talking about Japan.

Dravokivich

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Because we are cash strapped. Do you not think 42,000 and 990,000 respectively in Japan and with the Israelis in Ballsbridge is a complete waste of taxpayer funds?

We dont know what exactly is being paid for. Someone just looking for high level expenses without breaking down how it gets to it.

gctest50

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Because we are cash strapped. Do you not think 42,000 and 990,000 respectively in Japan and with the Israelis in Ballsbridge is a complete waste of taxpayer funds?

For Japan it's about 25cent each

for that we get

goods exports of €2.1bn in 2012 and imports of €798m while services exports were at €2.7bn and imports of €0.9bn.

Conor Bourke

I'm more concerned with the link in the OP being The Liberal. Vile "publication". I refuse to click on the link and therefore justify their existence but they've been shown time and time again to have plagiarised articles, I wonder if this one is any different?

Grayson

BrokenArrows wrote: »

He could stay in the 5* hyatt hotel in Tokyo for a month for 20k so im pretty sure they should be able to rent somewhere for less money.

The thing is that an ambassadors residence isn't just an apartment. It's used for entertaining. It needs to have at the minimum a small function room that could be used for dinner parties etc. If you look on daft you'll see plenty of places that advertise themselves as potential ambassador residences. Not one would fall into a category that a person/normal family would rent.

Maybe it could be cheaper but a hotel room wouldn't be suitable.

Hammer89

Deleted User wrote: »

They should just buy a place in Tokyo, that'll be cheaper I'm sure.

People just rent in Tokyo incase Godzilla destroys the city again, the prick.

An awful lot of people think an ambassador's residence is just for living in.


I'm constantly invited to the ambassador's residence where I live yet you'd all be happy to throw him or her in a studio. Some good that would do for Ireland's image.

newacc2015

I have a feeling no one in this thread has ever seen where all the embassies and residences in Dublin are for the foreign embassies. I'll give you a hint, it's not a half used industry estate in north county Dublin but the mouse expensive roads in Dublin eg Foxrock, Ailesbury Road, Shrewsbury Road. A majority of embassies in Dublin are on a handful of streets

I imagine Japan like China is a culture of face. It would look bad to a someone from a culture of face to visit a small apartment in a lesser neighbour. The tax payer might not like it, but spending excessively on rent might be taking in tens of millions more in trade than if the residence was in a lesser neighbourhood

Annasopra

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

You think that's bad?

We're currently paying the rent for an entire block of offices (Carrisbrook House in Dublin 4) of which only a floor of which is in use, to house the Israeli Embassy.

Have done for years. €990,000 per year (€82,500 per month!) in rents, which had cost €4,700,000 by 2013 so you're looking at €7,670,000 in the last 8 or so years.

Why?

Wouldnt Israel pay for that?

gramar

Grayson wrote: »

The thing is that an ambassadors residence isn't just an apartment. It's used for entertaining. It needs to have at the minimum a small function room that could be used for dinner parties etc.

..and somewhere to keep the supply of Ferrero Rocher.

Subcomandante Marcos

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why?

Wouldnt Israel pay for that?

You'd think...

ohnonotgmail

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why?

Wouldnt Israel pay for that?

why? they rent out one floor. they pay rent for that one floor.

BrokenArrows

Grayson wrote: »

The thing is that an ambassadors residence isn't just an apartment. It's used for entertaining. It needs to have at the minimum a small function room that could be used for dinner parties etc. If you look on daft you'll see plenty of places that advertise themselves as potential ambassador residences. Not one would fall into a category that a person/normal family would rent.

Maybe it could be cheaper but a hotel room wouldn't be suitable.

Hotels have function rooms which could be rented as required.

gctest50

BrokenArrows wrote: »

Hotels have function rooms which could be rented as required.

It's 25cent each per year ( for the Japan one )

suicide_circus

Deleted User wrote: »

An awful lot of people think an ambassador's residence is just for living in.


I'm constantly invited to the ambassador's residence where I live yet you'd all be happy to throw him or her in a studio. Some good that would do for Ireland's image.

So our image will be of a nation who spends money we don't have on property we can't afford? Yeah, that works.

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So when you think of it if Israel didn't rent out that floor we would be more screwed.

vandriver

suicide_circus wrote: »

So our image will be of a nation who spends money we don't have on property we can't afford? Yeah, that works.

The Irish State with an income of €50 billion a year and rising can't afford this?

BrokenArrows

gctest50 wrote: »

It's 25cent each per year ( for the Japan one )

Ah sure whats the harm then, might get my mates in the government to filter off 40k into my bank account, sure its only 25 cents each per year.

Who cares if that 40k could pay for housing of 60 homeless people per month.

ChikiChiki

vandriver wrote: »

The Irish State with an income of €50 billion a year and rising can't afford this?

A high income country with a shockingly poor healthcare system.