Smartphone Prices

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It's just getting ridiculous, or more ridiculous should I say.
The cost of the latest iPhone is nearing €1000 to buy off contract.

And I'm not picking on Apple, Samsung are not far behind, and LG.

I cannot believe the low amount of memory these devices come with as standard. The standard capacity hasn't moved in years. Memory is dirt cheep. And then you have to go out and buy a memory card after the hundreds and hundreds of euros you've already departed with.

Imagine the laptop one could buy for €700 to €1000. Oh but you can't take selfies with those bulky things.

The difference from one model to another these days are minimal. The next model might be millimetres thinner but because it's so expensive , you have to buy a case to protect it, which makes it much thicker than it was in the first place.

I have a 2 year old €99 smart-phone and the only thing that it lacks is a good camera. It runs all my apps perfectly fine.

I think smart-phones have become vanity devices. Expensive little vanity project if you ask me.

jamesbondings

sugarman wrote: »

Blame idiots that buy them.

The latest OnePlus pisses allover the latest flagship iPhones, Samsung, LG etc at less than half the price.

People falling for big brand names.

I can't afford ANY of the above.... I just "upgraded" to the mother in laws old s4. It's a grand phone. Would love a one plus though.

Peregrine

Moto G

That's all I have to say.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

A hipster and his money are easily easily parted...

Canis Lupus

sugarman wrote: »

Blame idiots that buy them.

Pretty much this. I've got a Redmi Note 3 Pro. Costs around $200us

Comes with, 5.5' screen, fingerprint reader, dual sim or SD card memory expandable and battery that lasts a comfortable 2 days between charges (longest recorded screen on time 6hrs 30 mins) all coupled with performance that in real every day terms is on par with any other phone on the market. Oh and I get a headphone jack.....

Then people literally whinge at you saying they can't use android and it's sh*t and upon asked what they use the phone for it's: phone calls, sms, emails, facebook/twitter with the occasional duck faced selfie.

Fools and their money is really all you can say.

Nonoperational

learn_more wrote: »

It's just getting ridiculous, or more ridiculous should I say.
The cost of the latest iPhone is nearing €1000 to buy off contract.

And I'm not picking on Apple, Samsung are not far behind, and LG.

I cannot believe the low amount of memory these devices come with as standard. The standard capacity hasn't moved in years. Memory is dirt cheep. And then you have to go out and buy a memory card after the hundreds and hundreds of euros you've already departed with.

Imagine the laptop one could buy for €700 to €1000. Oh but you can't take selfies with those bulky things.

The difference from one model to another these days are minimal. The next model might be millimetres thinner but because it's so expensive , you have to buy a case to protect it, which makes it much thicker than it was in the first place.

I have a 2 year old €99 smart-phone and the only thing that it lacks is a good camera. It runs all my apps perfectly fine.

I think smart-phones have become vanity devices. Expensive little vanity project if you ask me.

The iPhone capacity has doubled at the price point with the latest release. The iPhone 7 has actually been shown to be faster than many laptops at the €700-1000 price point, and smartphones use SSD memory, that drives the price of laptops up considerably.

A decent camera is pretty essential to many people, if your phones's one is ****e then budget €300 for a stand alone, defeats the purpose really.

sugarman wrote: »

Blame idiots that buy them.

The latest OnePlus pisses allover the latest flagship iPhones, Samsung, LG etc at less than half the price.

People falling for big brand names.

Good phone, but miles behind pissing all over the flagships. Serious phone for the money though. And it's the phone I'd buy if I lost an uninsured contract phone. For now I find the iPhone a really solid device. I do respect what Oneplus are doing though. Great devices.

Pac1Man

You don't have to pay 1k for a smartphone. The same way you don't have to spend 50k if you need to change your car. Nice to have a bit of choice in life though.

yellowlabrador

my first generation moto g is fine. battery still ok.

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Nonoperational wrote: »

The iPhone capacity has doubled at the price point with the latest release. The iPhone 7 has actually been shown to be faster than many laptops at the €700-1000 price point, and smartphones use SSD memory, that drives the price of laptops up considerably.

I don't care if it's doubled. It's still a pathetic amount of memory for the hundred upon hundreds you pay for it.

Also the speediness of the device is only a geeky perceptual fact that most people don't even notice.

sugarman wrote: »

Except it doesnt really. It uses the same SMD Flash memory as a USB key. A 128GB key can be got for €20 these days, you bet it costs only a fraction of that.

EXACTLY !

Flaccus

sugarman wrote: »

Nonoperational wrote: »

The iPhone capacity has doubled at the price point with the latest release. The iPhone 7 has actually been shown to be faster than many laptops at the 700-1000 price point, and smartphones use SSD memory, that drives the price of laptops up considerably.

A decent camera is pretty essential to many people, if your phones's one is ****e then budget 300 for a stand alone, defeats the purpose really.

Except it doesnt really. It uses the same SMD Flash memory as a USB key. A 128GB key can be got for 20 these days, you bet it costs only a fraction of that.

Nonoperational wrote: »

Good phone, but miles behind pissing all over the flagships. Serious phone for the money though. And it's the phone I'd buy if I lost an uninsured contract phone. For now I find the iPhone a really solid device. I do respect what Oneplus are doing though. Great devices.

What are you talking about? Its the higest benchmarked phone of 2016, beats the Samsung S7, LG G5, HTC 10 & iPhone 7 hands down performance wise.

Wrong. The iPhone a10 fusion soc is currently the fastest.

ted1

Nonoperational wrote: »

The iPhone capacity has doubled at the price point with the latest release. The iPhone 7 has actually been shown to be faster than many laptops at the €700-1000 price point, and smartphones use SSD memory, that drives the price of laptops up considerably.

A decent camera is pretty essential to many people, if your phones's one is ****e then budget €300 for a stand alone, defeats the purpose really.



Good phone, but miles behind pissing all over the flagships. Serious phone for the money though. And it's the phone I'd buy if I lost an uninsured contract phone. For now I find the iPhone a really solid device. I do respect what Oneplus are doing though. Great devices.

Let's be honest no smart phone has an optical zoom so the cameras are all crap. A 300 euro dslr would wipe the floor with a camera built into a phone any day

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ted1 wrote: »

Let's be honest no smart phone has an optical zoom so the cameras are all crap. A 300 euro dslr would wipe the floor with a camera built into a phone any day

Right again. No high-end smart-phone can match even a middle of the road pocket digital camera these days.

B.A._Baracus

If someone wants to buy a crazy expensive phone....? whatever to them. Their money and they can do what they want. But I do have a little niggling issue when said people try to justify spending that much. You know the usual spiel, "but it's high quality" .. "cheaper phones are rubbish!" yadda yadda :pac:

Flaccus

sugarman wrote: »

Nonoperational wrote: »

The iPhone capacity has doubled at the price point with the latest release. The iPhone 7 has actually been shown to be faster than many laptops at the 700-1000 price point, and smartphones use SSD memory, that drives the price of laptops up considerably.

A decent camera is pretty essential to many people, if your phones's one is ****e then budget 300 for a stand alone, defeats the purpose really.

Except it doesnt really. It uses the same SMD Flash memory as a USB key. A 128GB key can be got for 20 these days, you bet it costs only a fraction of that.

Nonoperational wrote: »

Good phone, but miles behind pissing all over the flagships. Serious phone for the money though. And it's the phone I'd buy if I lost an uninsured contract phone. For now I find the iPhone a really solid device. I do respect what Oneplus are doing though. Great devices.

What are you talking about? Its the higest benchmarked phone of 2016, beats the Samsung S7, LG G5, HTC 10 & iPhone 7 hands down performance wise.

Wrong. The iPhone a10 fusion soc is currently the fastest.
http://bgr.com/2016/09/15/iphone-7-vs-android-benchmarks/

Canis Lupus

Flaccus wrote: »

Wrong. The iPhone a10 fusion soc is currently the fastest.

And users are amazed at how fast it opens facebook.

Raging_Ninja

Meh all this talk about specs is a waste of time since most people won't tell the difference between the flagships and any edge will usually be overtaken within a few months. It really just comes down to how you intend to use the device.

Personally, I go for android as I'm a software engineer and sometimes like to play around with the inner workings of things. Apple is the natural enemy of that with their locked-down, constricted ecosystem.

Have just updated from a Note 4 to a Oneplus Three.

Star_Nupa

Give me iOS any day - having had a Nexus 5 and GS6 among others more recently.

I don't care what a benchmark says, my user experience with Android is it lags after a a few months. A common complaint. A fragmented OS built to work on many many different devices compared to an OS built for the hardware like Apple produce. No contest. My 5s (which I used up until recently) was still super smooth and performing perfectly. Great for a 3 year old phone.

So what if people can afford to drop 7/800 quid on a phone? Move on.

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B.A._Baracus wrote: »

If someone wants to buy a crazy expensive phone....? whatever to them. Their money and they can do what they want. But I do have a little niggling issue when said people try to justify spending that much. You know the usual spiel, "but it's high quality" .. "cheaper phones are rubbish!" yadda yadda :pac:

But you just making the same point I was making. Phones not worth THAT much money. The camera's in these phones are NOT that advanced to justify the cost.

I would suggest high-end smart-phones are roughly priced at about double of what they are worth.

Flaccus

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Flaccus wrote: »

Wrong. The iPhone a10 fusion soc is currently the fastest.

And users are amazed at how fast it opens facebook.

So what. A previous poster brought up benchmarks and stated something factually incorrect. Same with the memory. IP7 DOESN'T use the same memory as a USB flash drive. It's nand is superior and uses an nvme controller.

In any case regardless of specs hardly anything pushes modern phones from a software / performance perspective so that's why people can see hardly any difference between mid range and high end models

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Pac1Man wrote: »

You don't have to pay 1k for a smartphone. The same way you don't have to spend 50k if you need to change your car. Nice to have a bit of choice in life though.

I'm not sure if this iPhone craze is just a choice.

Apple to me are not a electronics company. They are a marketing company, that just so happens to be marketing electronic devices, that they are manufacturing in China !

B.A._Baracus

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But you just making the same point I was making. Phones not worth THAT much money. The camera's in these phones are NOT that advanced to justify the cost.

I would suggest high-end smart-phones are roughly priced at about double of what they are worth.

Maybe it's just me, but it sounds like you are agreeing with me, then arguing with me then finally agreeing with me :pac:

KKkitty

I have a Huawei Ascend g7. It cost about €250 new 2 years ago. It has 16gb of internal memory. 5 megapixel camera on the inside and 13 megapixel camera on the outside. 5.5 inch screen and although it's running an outdated android version it still does what I need it to do. If I became rich tomorrow I'd buy something more up to date but for now I'm happy with what I have.

Fr_Dougal

sugarman wrote: »

Blame idiots that buy them.

The latest OnePlus pisses allover the latest flagship iPhones, Samsung, LG etc at less than half the price.

People falling for big brand names.

Source?

Depp

sugarman wrote: »

Blame idiots that buy them.

The latest OnePlus pisses allover the latest flagship iPhones, Samsung, LG etc at less than half the price.

People falling for big brand names.

At the minute I'm using a 5 year old iphone 4s and the latest update (iOS 10) is the first software update it hasnt been compatible with, when you show me a 5 year old one plus that can run the lates software update (or even still works) come back to me.

That being said I wouldnt stump up for the prices they're asking for any of the flagships, for 99% of people an SE would be as good of a phone as you would need

user2011

Haven't went over 400 yet, first smart phone was nexus 4 followed by one plus x.

Nexus got dumped because of the **** screen gets a crack and you can't use the screen a little above it and below it. Yet the nephew had a cheap Sony phone screen cracked all over but could still use no problem. The X has stood up to the batterings that have been thrown at it

Pac1Man

Depp wrote: »

... when you show me a 5 year old one plus that can run the lates software update (or even still works) come back to me.

Give them a chance, they've only been around two years!

Depp

Pac1Man wrote: »

Give them a chance, they've only been around two years!

i know that haha I was just using it as an example of android phones, but isnt the oneplus one already incompatible with the latest updates?

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B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Maybe it's just me, but it sounds like you are agreeing with me, then arguing with me then finally agreeing with me :pac:

Quite right. I'm agreeing with you agreeing with me agreeing with you.

Maybe we should make out together? I actually like big black male tits and big black male lips driving around in a big black van.

Can I give you my phone number ?

evolving_doors

Nonoperational wrote: »

The iPhone capacity has doubled at the price point with the latest release. The iPhone 7 has actually been shown to be faster than many laptops at the €700-1000 price point, and smartphones use SSD memory, that drives the price of laptops up considerably.

A decent camera is pretty essential to many people, if your phones's one is ****e then budget €300 for a stand alone, defeats the purpose really.



Good phone, but miles behind pissing all over the flagships. Serious phone for the money though. And it's the phone I'd buy if I lost an uninsured contract phone. For now I find the iPhone a really solid device. I do respect what Oneplus are doing though. Great devices.

Does that mean you have an Iphone?

evolving_doors

Just to make those folk who bought an Iphone jealous. I just finished using a Samsung S1 a few months ago, it did the job and I'll be sad to say goodbye. Now Im on some cheap free upgrade and a €20 pm month contract. It makes phone calls and I dont care about a camera.
Na na na naaa na bet yer jealous now Iphone suckers.
Prolly not though.

D0NNELLY

Star_Nupa wrote: »

A fragmented OS built to work on many many different devices compared to an OS built for the hardware like Apple produce.

You think android is built to suit the different phones?

Senna

I always laugh at people saying "I got it free as an upgrade".
You are on a €60 a month contract for 2 years, you can get the same usage for €12-€15 on a sim only plan, your free upgrade is costing you well over a grand. Which is fine if you understand that, but I swear some people don't.

JaCrispy

Senna wrote: »

I always laugh at people saying "I got it free as an upgrade".
You are on a €60 a month contract for 2 years, you can get the same usage for €12-€15 on a sim only plan, your free upgrade is costing you well over a grand. Which is fine if you understand that, but I swear some people don't.

Agreed. A simple calculation comparing the cost of a
1) Two year plan + phone
or
2) 48 Months/Lycamobile plan + self bought phone

Option 2 will always, always win.
Dumb people are dumb.

TerrorFirmer

I have a Galaxy S6 but I got it extremely cheap (around 250) - the best value are some of the good chinese manufacturers, excellent return per euro. Had the OnePlus One before this, didn't even need to upgrade but I wanted to try the GearVR with the S6. Both my parents are using €50 Doogee X5's I got them, €50 each and would be comparable to a €99 phone in shops here. The €50 smartphones you buy here are just appalling, even for a light user they're a pain to use.

tritium

Not the best researched OP. For around 400 youll pick up an lg g5- still not cheap but comparable to the iphone se. For that you're getting a pretty fast snapdragon processor, a super camera (not an slr by any means but for what it is its excellent), 4K video and a screen thats outstanding (and better than anything on an iphone at present.

That price is roughly the same as many entry level laptops with a basic celeron and poor quality screen

Sono

sugarman wrote: »

Blame idiots that buy them.

The latest OnePlus pisses allover the latest flagship iPhones, Samsung, LG etc at less than half the price.

People falling for big brand names.

It actually doesn't but anyway...

Alf Stewart.

I have an S6 Edge plus meself, not because I'm into gadgets (even though I kinda am) but, simply because the phone company give me a new one every year/every other year respectively.
I don't know much about the oneplus editions of phones, but one thing i will say, I have literally never came across anyone using one yet.

Who owns all these phones, and why is everyone hiding them

JaCrispy

Sono wrote: »

It actually doesn't but anyway...

Well it does actually (certainly the OnePlus 3 v iPhone 7). Bigger screen, more storage, 3 times the RAM, better camera, higher screen resolution etc etc

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7995&idPhone2=8064

Guy:Incognito

KKkitty wrote: »

I have a Huawei Ascend g7. It cost about €250 new 2 years ago. It has 16gb of internal memory. 5 megapixel camera on the inside and 13 megapixel camera on the outside. 5.5 inch screen and although it's running an outdated android version it still does what I need it to do. If I became rich tomorrow I'd buy something more up to date but for now I'm happy with what I have.

Why do you need to take photos of the inside of your phone?






:pac:

blade1

For the price, the OnePlus 3 is incredible.
I was going for the iPhone 7 but it just didn't wow me enough.
Although really like the new update iOS10.

Just moved from iPhone 6 to OnePlus during the week and happy with the change.
New phone is way faster and build quality seems even better than the iPhone.

There are some things I prefer more on the iPhone but these are more personal preference than anything.

Also love the customisation available on Android.

riclad

You can buy a samsung 5 inch screen or huawei phone for 150 euro
approx.
An iphone 7 is nearly 1000 euro,because of the brand ,like buying a bmw car.Its a fast phone ,with no headphone socket.The camera is very good.
The battery life is worse than an iphone 6.
The iphone is a status symbol .its a luxury item.
Theres no such thing as a free phone,
you get upgrades cos you are paying 30 euro plus on a contract.
No one is forced to buy an iphone.
no one needs a 4k phone ,its pointless .
it,s like people who watch movies on a phone .

jacksie66

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JamBur

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

I have an S6 Edge plus meself, not because I'm into gadgets (even though I kinda am) but, simply because the phone company give me a new one every year/every other year respectively.
I don't know much about the oneplus editions of phones, but one thing i will say, I have literally never came across anyone using one yet.

Who owns all these phones, and why is everyone hiding them

I'm typing this on a Oneplus One. I just checked on my Oneplus Three order. It's with An Post for delivery on Monday. I'm not hiding.

frozenfrozen

The price of phones changes anyway based on so many variables. For one if you're going to keep a phone for 3 or 4 months all phones are expensive. But if you keep an iphone or samsung expensive phone for 3-4 years... then what's the problem

I can't get my head around people who spend so much of their time trying to influence others phone choices on the internet so much

Alf Stewart.

JamBur wrote: »

I'm typing this on a Oneplus One. I just checked on my Oneplus Three order. It's with An Post for delivery on Monday. I'm not hiding.

Ah, I'm only messing about the hiding part, but by reading these boards, they seem to be a pretty popular phone (along with nexus devices)

But I honestly hasn't encountered anyone using them yet, prob (I presume) because most of the people I deal with, day in, day out wouldn't be technologically minded in that regards, and prob always fall for the brand name.

I would like to have a play around with a one plus device, as an avid poster in the android forum, they're supposedly a very cool device, but as I already said, my only problem is that the mobile companies throw phones in to me as part of work contract.

Might be a good birthday present for Mrs Stewart though, and I can get her off her 55€ a month contract!

Wanderer78

Thank God I haven't bought a phone in over 10 years

Felix Jones is God

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Thank God I haven't bought a phone in over 10 years

You steal them?

Junkyard Tom

Stop complaining. To acquire the same functions of an average smartphone in 1985 it would have cost $32,000,000.

http://www.webpagefx.com/data/how-much-did-the-stuff-on-your-smartphone-cost-30-years-ago/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFsOUbZ0Lr0

andekwarhola

Buy a flagship phone (albeit never Apple) once every 2-3 years. They're definitely overpriced but I like having a good phone with a decent processor and camera. When I think of all the things I (pretty much constantly) use it for: phone, messaging, camera; web browsing, GPS (maps, driving, running), reading ebooks, playing music, calendar, it's not an outrageous financial outlay over a couple of years.

Wanderer78

Felix Jones is God wrote:

You steal them?

You'd be surprised what people call rubbish

Riesen_Meal

I have the OG Nexus 5 over 3 years now, it's no longer officially getting android updates with the latest OS, but because it's a stock Nexus it still gets a once a month security update...

I could flash the latest android on it when I'm arsed but I may upgrade to last year's one, this year, if it's affordable at that stage.... :P

I tend to buy sim free phone's, my 20 a month PAYG plan does me usually 5 weeks so can't complain really...

To contrast that, I use a 2013 MB Air for music stuff, OSX got updated the other day and I have no reason to upgrade with the fear of forced apple obscelence on my 3 year old machine...