'Pointable fines' ?

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 08:58PM #1

Hi, I was driving behind a guards van about an hour ago and he decides to stop in the middle of the road and walks up to me and asks do I know why he stopped me, and I said no and he started laughing and said give me the licence etc etc. So I gave it and he asked how many penalty points I have, I said 0 and he laughed again and said he doesn't know how cause 'I'm ****ing useless and haven't a ****ing clue' he then told me I'm getting 2 fines for not having a fully qualified driver with me, and gave me 2 fines but mentioned nothing about penalty points, said they're pointable so what does that mean and why was this guard such a prick, using foul language for no reason.

RossieMan · 15-09-2016 09:14PM

Maybe sick to death of people breaking the rules? You were driving by yourself presumably on a provisional, you deserve to be fined.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:18PM

RossieMan wrote: »

Maybe sick to death of people breaking the rules? You were driving by yourself presumably on a provisional, you deserve to be fined.

Was waiting on an idiot like you to comment . If you don't have the answer to my question then leave :-)

punisher5112 · 15-09-2016 09:19PM

If you didn't notice what you done wrong maybe you have just been saved from causing a death or injuring someone or yourself.

Care to explain what you did do apart from driving unaccompanied.

CharlieCroker · 15-09-2016 09:20PM

If he was in front of you, he could only see your headlights so you obviously did something that he could only see in side mirrors to cause him to stop you in the middle of the road.

You broke the rules, got caught, suck it up!!

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:24PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

If you didn't notice what you done wrong maybe you have just been saved from causing a death or injuring someone or yourself.

Care to explain what you did do apart from driving unaccompanied.

I went through the lights while they were on Amber and they didn't even turn red till after I passed but he thought I passed through a red and I thought the opposite so it's both our words against each other but obviously he'll have the power here.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:24PM

CharlieCroker wrote: »

If he was in front of you, he could only see your headlights so you obviously did something that he could only see in side mirrors to cause him to stop you in the middle of the road.

You broke the rules, got caught, suck it up!!

Again. Another idiot lol if you don't have the answer to what my question was, then don't comment stupid stuff on my thread. Goodbye

punisher5112 · 15-09-2016 09:27PM

Closing in 3 2 1

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:29PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Closing in 3 2 1

What?

nhunter100 · 15-09-2016 09:30PM

Only have your word for the language used but from my reading of your post A you are being fined for having no qualified driver with you B running a red light. Oh and to the best of my language both carry 2 points. So you now have a minimum of 4 points waiting to be applied to your licence. Obey the rules of the road in future and you'll be grand.

15-09-2016 09:31PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

I went through the lights while they were on Amber and they didn't even turn red till after I passed but he thought I passed through a red and I thought the opposite so it's both our words against each other but obviously he'll have the power here.

Do you know what an amber light means?
Maybe you should look it up

Esel · 15-09-2016 09:31PM

Thread is now on amber alert.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:32PM

bubblypop wrote: »

Do you know what an amber light means?
Maybe you should look it up

As the officer told me , an amber means 'prepare to stop' which I drove through the lights before the amber even came on.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:34PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Only have your word for the language used but from my reading of your post A you are being fined for having no qualified driver with you B running a red light.

And do these carry penalty points? He didn't state if I was getting any, just asked me did I have any and when I told him I had 0 he just laughed and started writing.

ceegee · 15-09-2016 09:34PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

I went through the lights while they were on Amber and they didn't even turn red till after I passed but he thought I passed through a red and I thought the opposite so it's both our words against each other but obviously he'll have the power here.

you seem to think amber=go, this may be what annoyed him.

15-09-2016 09:34PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

I went through the lights while they were on Amber.

So they were on amber then?

punisher5112 · 15-09-2016 09:35PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

What?

If your attitude is what you write like there is never going to be a good outcome.

Is there any traffic cams around?

You will only get points for one offence and will be for whichever holds most.

If you believe you were right fight it but it will cost a Solicitor to work on your behalf and judge may side with cop and apply extra cost/fine and points.

Stoogie · 15-09-2016 09:37PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

Was waiting on an idiot like you to comment . If you don't have the answer to my question then leave :-)

LOL why was he using bad language?
People use bad language all the time and Guards are people.You could report him to the swear jar ombudsman I suppose.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:38PM

ceegee wrote: »

you seem to think amber=go, this may be what annoyed him.

I was passed the lights before they even turned Amber so I had no chance to stop as if I did I'd be stopped in the middle of the junction blocking traffic.

Kings Inns or bust · 15-09-2016 09:38PM

Yes you've been given at least 2 points for the FCN that's now available to guards for Learner drivers driving unaccompanied.

The guard was probably being a bit of a prick, sometime they are - most of the time they have reason to be. I find if you take the right attitude back the amount of leeway you're given is huge.

ED E · 15-09-2016 09:38PM

19yo boyo runs a light behind a Garda van while driving on Ls unaccompanied. Feels hard done by.

Couldnt make it up.

ceegee · 15-09-2016 09:39PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

As the officer told me , an amber means 'prepare to stop' which I drove through the lights before the amber even came on.

no, amber means stop unless it's unsafe to do so. It scares me that someone could go driving on their own without understanding how f**king traffic lights work.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:39PM

bubblypop wrote: »

So they were on amber then?

They turned Amber when I drove past the first set of lights and there was Noway I could've stopped as if I stopped I'd be blocking the whole road.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:39PM

ceegee wrote: »

no, amber means stop unless it's unsafe to do so. It scares me that someone could go driving on their own without understanding how f**king traffic lights work.

I stated what the officer told me, I drove past the set of lights before Amber turned on mug.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:41PM

Kings Inns or bust wrote: »

Yes you've been given at least 2 points for the FCN that's now available to guards for Learner drivers driving unaccompanied.

The guard was probably being a bit of a prick, sometime they are - most of the time they have reason to be. I find if you take the right attitude back the amount of leeway you're given is huge.

I was nice to him but he used language from the minute he came up to me until the minute he left, as he was taking my registration he turned around and said '****ing idiot' ... ðŸ˜‚What a cu^t

beertons · 15-09-2016 09:42PM

Sell car. Buy comfy shoes. Start walking.

Kings Inns or bust · 15-09-2016 09:42PM

ceegee wrote: »

no, amber means stop unless it's unsafe to do so. It scares me that someone could go driving on their own without understanding how f**king traffic lights work.

Come on now. There was a lad in here a few months back who asserted he used to teach the rules of the road and much discussion was had on amber lights. Ask anything about roundabouts and there's usually at least one red card and a closed account.

No need to get on a high horse about the little stuff when there's so much else here for the target of the lulz. We're never going to find out what the OP did as I suspect even he doesn't know. I have a funny feeling, given how the guard pulled him, he was probably tailgating but who knows... not even the OP :pac:

nhunter100 · 15-09-2016 09:45PM

Unaccompanied driver 2 points, running a red light to the best of my knowledge 2 points. You can always seek a court date to contest however more than likely you will end up with double the points and a larger fine, your choice. The Guards normally don't bother arguing the toss at the roadside about points.Thats what the post is for.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:45PM

Kings Inns or bust wrote: »

Come on now. There was a lad in here a few months back who asserted he used to teach the rules of the road and much discussion was had on amber lights. Ask anything about roundabouts and there's usually at least one red card and a closed account.

No need to get on a high horse about the little stuff when there's so much else here for the target of the lulz. We're never going to find out what the OP did as I suspect even he doesn't know. I have a funny feeling, given how the guard pulled him, he was probably tailgating but who knows... not even the OP :pac:

I was told I was pulled for 'breaking a right light' and not having an fully qualified driver with me. Which one was true and the other isn't.

Kings Inns or bust · 15-09-2016 09:46PM

Mccabe96 wrote: »

I was nice to him but he used language from the minute he came up to me until the minute he left, as he was taking my registration he turned around and said '****ing idiot' ... ðŸ˜‚What a cu^t

No excuse for it OP to be fair but the rule of thumb I use is until I've scraped up little bit of people kids and popped them in body bags I'll keep giving them the benefit of the doubt.

You've no idea if he's just come from an RTA where a Learner or someone in the same car as you, or someone who looks like you etc. etc. has just seriously hurt or killed someone. No need to be a dick about it I grant you and some of them are just twats but I refer you back to my rule of thumb.

Given the alternatives exercised by various other jurisdiction around the place. I'll take the 'cutting' wit of a cluchie on a power trip and being let on my way over the smile and politeness of a US cop and the night getting bum raped in the cells any day.

Mccabe96 · 15-09-2016 09:46PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

Unaccompanied driver 2 points, running a red light to the best of my knowledge 2 points. You can always seek a court date to contest however more than likely you will end up with double the points and a larger fine, your choice.

Someone just posted on the thread saying I won't get points for both of them, ill only get points for one offence?

'Pointable fines' ?

Comments