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taxi soiling charge ?

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  • 11-09-2016 9:58am
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    celligraphy
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    Hi can anyone help me on this how much is the taxi soiling charge ? I got sick last night out of the window of the taxi I was in , drank too much but anyways I know the fare was gonna be 20 at the start . After apologizing and saying I would pay , the taxi driver wouldn't bring me home until I promised to pay him , he wanted 200 ?


    I paid him 160 only but he said he would be calling today for the rest


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    Stheno
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    Google national transport authority and taxi soiling charge, the maximum charge is 140


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    gerard2210
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    According to the NTA website the max charge is 140 euro.


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    _kookie
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    I got sick out the window of a taxi many years ago.
    Taxi driver was very rough and practically robbed me.
    I didnt even get any sick on the door of the car.
    I complained the next day and I was told to just leave it because he would be able to produce lots of taxt driver "witnesses".
    Chalk it up to experience OP.


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    GM228
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    Other posters are correct that it's €140 maximum, this is as per statute. If he comes to look for more point this out to him and report to the regulator.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/127/made/en/print
    Soiling charge where applicable

    The reasonable cost of remedying the soiling, up to a maximum of €140.00


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    ThunbergsAreGo
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    GM228 wrote: »
    Other posters are correct that it's €140 maximum, this is as per statute. If he comes to look for more point this out to him and report to the regulator.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/127/made/en/print

    Probably worth already reporting to the regulator


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    But is it the soiling charge plus the fare that had accumalated as the total to pay or soiling charge only?


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    _kookie
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    GM228 wrote: »
    Other posters are correct that it's €140 maximum, this is as per statute. If he comes to look for more point this out to him and report to the regulator.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/127/made/en/print

    If only the outside of the door had sick on it I dont think a "reasonable cost of remedy" would be very much.


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    KCross
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    Why would it be €140 to clean sick off the outside of the door?

    One quick squirt of a hose and that's sorted.

    Surely the €140 is to cover a valet and loss of earnings when the sick is on the seats/carpets?

    I think you've been taken advantage of but lesson learned nonetheless.


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    Sam Kade
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    So you paid the fair and soiling charge, when he calls for the €40 tell him to take a running jump.


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    GM228
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    But is it the soiling charge plus the fare that had accumalated at the total to pay?

    Yes the OP said fare was €20 so max driver could charge would be €160 which the OP already paid.


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    GM228
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    _kookie wrote: »
    If only the outside of the door had sick on it I dont think a "reasonable cost of remedy" would be very much.

    Good point, €10 for a car wash perhaps?


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    tracey turnblad
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    If I'm reading that correct it's the cost to clean the car to a maximum of 140. So should he not have to produce a receipt to show how much it cost to clean the car? I'm sure the price of a very luxury car wash would be a lot less than 140


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    GM228
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    KCross wrote: »
    Why would it be €140 to clean sick off the outside of the door?

    One quick squirt of a hose and that's sorted.

    Surely the €140 is to cover a valet and loss of earnings when the sick is on the seats/carpets?

    I think you've been taken advantage of The reasonable cost of remedying the soiling, up to a maximum of €140.00but lesson learned nonetheless.

    Cost is to remedy the soiling, i.e put it right, not for loss of earnings. Unless interior of car got soiled a valet would not be required, just a car wash.


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    Tin Roofer
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    GM228 wrote: »
    Good point, €10 for a car wash perhaps?

    Assuming the drunk OP didn't end up with any sick inside the car while getting sick out the window of a presumably moving vehicle.


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    exaisle
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    I find it hard to have any sympathy at all for the OP. Time to grow up, I think....as KCross has said...lesson learned.

    I assume the €140 is for lost fares while he gets his car washed. Might not be too easy finding a car wash open at all hours...I think the €140 is fair enough actually. There has to be some kind of penalty involved above the cost of cleaning the car.

    I doubt the taxi driver will call though....hardly worth his while to go out of his way to collect €20....


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    Pete Moss
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    exaisle wrote: »
    I find it hard to have any sympathy at all for the OP. Time to grow up, I think....as KCross has said...lesson learned.

    I assume the €140 is for lost fares while he gets his car washed. Might not be too easy finding a car wash open at all hours...I think the €140 is fair enough actually. There has to be some kind of penalty involved above the cost of cleaning the car.

    I doubt the taxi driver will call though....hardly worth his while to go out of his way to collect €20....

    I think you'd want to read the OP before pontificating. The taxi driver has charged in excess of the basic soiling charge of €140 plus fare.
    celligraphy wrote: »
    Hi can anyone help me on this how much is the taxi soiling charge ? I got sick last night out of the window of the taxi I was in , drank too much but anyways I know the fare was gonna be 20 at the start . After apologizing and saying I would pay , the taxi driver wouldn't bring me home until I promised to pay him , he wanted 200 ?


    I paid him 160 only but he said he would be calling today for the rest

    Taxi driver is chancing his arm looking for an extra €40, OP. As others have said, report him to the regulator. You've paid up, so I'd tell him to jog on, if he calls today.

    Should you have to pay the soiling charge - Yes. Should the driver be charging in excess of the standard soiling charge - No.


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    Oasis1974
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    celligraphy wrote: »
    Hi can anyone help me on this how much is the taxi soiling charge ? I got sick last night out of the window of the taxi I was in , drank too much but anyways I know the fare was gonna be 20 at the start . After apologizing and saying I would pay , the taxi driver wouldn't bring me home until I promised to pay him , he wanted 200 ?


    I paid him 160 only but he said he would be calling today for the rest
    The local taxi drivers here would have giving you a handshake. You projected it outside his car fair play to ya.


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    Imnotthehulk
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    exaisle wrote: »
    I find it hard to have any sympathy at all for the OP. Time to grow up, I think....as KCross has said...lesson learned.

    I assume the €140 is for lost fares while he gets his car washed. Might not be too easy finding a car wash open at all hours...I think the €140 is fair enough actually. There has to be some kind of penalty involved above the cost of cleaning the car.

    I'd agree with you to a point, and if I puked in a car I'd expect to pay the full charge (only time I had to puke in a taxi I got him to pull to the kerb and had the door open before and head out before I let loose, so didn't have to pay any soiling charge).

    However the driver tried to rip the OP off. If I had the name/plate number/car reg I would most certainly be making complaints to whomever I could complain to.

    I'm guessing he didn't give the OP a receipt.


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    Oasis1974
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    The point is there was no puke in the car itself it was on the exterior. A bird could **** on his car everyday for the rest of his life and he would have to clean it. You handed over €160 to that guy its ridiculous probably had it cleaned in 20 seconds with some water and a shammy.


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    celligraphy
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    Thanks for the answers anyways I don't think I 'll be using that firm again for awhile , he was extremely aggressive about the whole incident . I forgot to mention I got sick while he was in traffic also so the car wasn't moving .

    I really hope he doesn't call


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    celligraphy
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    Imnotthehulk wrote:
    I'm guessing he didn't give the OP a receipt.


    Was I supposed to be given a receipt?


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    Homer
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    In fairness there would be a smell of sick inside the car also which is very unpleasant for the driver and next couple of fares possibly?! ..
    If the OP was drunk enough to puke out the window of a moving and stationary vehicle then they may well have got some inside the taxi also?!!!
    He would need to take time out of his shift to go and get the car washed.. I don't think it's unreasonable for the OP to take responsibility for their actions and move on from this unfortunate incident.


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    Collie D
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    To be fair to the OP he accepts he's at fault and again to be fair to driver I'd be pissed off too.

    But the point is the charge is €140 which he has paid. If the charge was raised to €200 I wouldn't argue against it but it's not so the driver can't charge more.

    I'd let it go unless your man does come looking for it.


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    foggy_lad
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    GM228 wrote: »
    Other posters are correct that it's €140 maximum, this is as per statute. If he comes to look for more point this out to him and report to the regulator.

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/127/made/en/print
    The OP should ask him for evidence of the bill for cleaning the taxi.
    Oasis1974 wrote: »
    The local taxi drivers here would have giving you a handshake. You projected it outside his car fair play to ya.
    Drivers here are the same once you're a regular, "Fair play to ya bhoy, It's a pity you didn't learn to roll that window down last week or the week before":D
    celligraphy wrote: »
    Was I supposed to be given a receipt?
    Yes, the driver was obliged to provide a receipt. If you have the drivers details (which can be got from the company) you can make a complaint to the taxi regulator. You may get some of your money back!
    Collie D wrote: »
    To be fair to the OP he accepts he's at fault and again to be fair to driver I'd be pissed off too.

    But the point is the charge is €140 which he has paid. If the charge was raised to €200 I wouldn't argue against it but it's not so the driver can't charge more.

    I'd let it go unless your man does come looking for it.
    Op is only at fault for the amount that it takes to clean the soiling.
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/127/made/en/print
    The reasonable cost of remedying the soiling, up to a maximum of €140.00


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    Collie D
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    foggy_lad wrote: »



    Op is only at fault for the amount that it takes to clean the soiling.
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/si/127/made/en/print

    I did actually say that


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    Sleeper12
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    tracey turnblad wrote:
    If I'm reading that correct it's the cost to clean the car to a maximum of 140. So should he not have to produce a receipt to show how much it cost to clean the car? I'm sure the price of a very luxury car wash would be a lot less than 140


    You have to hand it to Boards posters. Someone goes out and drinks too much. Same someone vomited while in a taxi. Taxi driver turns out to be the bad guy.

    Op thinks all vomit was outside the taxi. If you are drunk enough to get sick you can't really be sure where you got sick. I'd put money on it there's vomit on their clothes and plenty in the taxi. Did any go into the door itself?

    If the taxi smells of vomit then taxi driver is supposed to take it out of service. I think 140 Euro is a fair price to have to pay to have someone else clean up your vomit. Vomit smells can take days to clear.
    Op you paid 160 Euro, don't pay anymore. I'd also suggest that you drink less and show respect for other people's property. It's no one else's job to clean up after you


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    TheChizler
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    It's not unheard of that some drivers will absolutely take advantage of this kind of situation. Friend of mine (who doesn't drink) put a coke from a takeaway on the floor of a taxi in the way home. Driver claims it spilled but friend couldn't see any evidence of this. Driver locked the doors and drove off until they paid over 140.


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    magicbastarder
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    TheChizler wrote: »
    Driver locked the doors and drove off until they paid over 140.
    there's only one thing to do in this situation; ring the gardai.


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    TheChizler
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    Gardai sided with the driver in that situation even though there was no evidence of soilage. Forgot how bizarre it was.


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    tracey turnblad
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    It's very easy to take advantage of a drunk... The op stated that he got sick in the outside of the taxi... I am taking him at his word as we have no evidence otherwise. Would you be pleased to pay out 140+ in this situation. Someone puking in your taxi is not a windfall for the driver. A friend of mine got sick in herself in a taxi one night and was charged for a tiny bit on a leather seat that could have been wiped with a baby wipe.


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