Examples of technology 'thinking' going backwards . . .

LordSutch

I may not have explained myself properly in the title, but what I'm refering to is the likes of the missing headphone socket on the new iPhone = A backwards step?

I totally understand the (waterproof) bluetooth headphones idea behing the missing socket, but practically speaking surely a headphone socket is a very handy thing to have. Other examples might include no mudgards on new bicycles (rear mudgards used to protect your trousers/bum from getting soaked on a wet day), yet nowadays many new bikes have no mudgards!

Any other suggestions?

munster87

Mobile phone battery life

cbyrd

The new way to pay with your card ... Contactless payment. the pin was put there to protect you from anyone skimming money if you lost your card. I know it's only E30 a go but ten shops later .. that's a good days haul..

Pro Hoc Vice

LordSutch wrote: »

I may not have explained myself properly in the title, but what I'm refering to is the likes of the missing headphone socket on the new iPhone = A backwards step?

I totally understand the (waterproof) bluetooth headphones idea behing the missing socket, but practically speaking surely a headphone socket is a very handy thing to have. Other examples might include no mudgards on new bicycles (rear mudgards used to protect your trousers/bum from getting soaked on a wet day), yet nowadays many new bikes have no mudgards!

Any other suggestions?

You can still plug in headphones to new iPhone either the lighting type or the old type with a adopter.

LordSutch

... with an adapter.

Laika123

LordSutch wrote: »

I may not have explained myself properly in the title, but what I'm refering to is the likes of the missing headphone socket on the new iPhone = A backwards step?

I totally understand the (waterproof) bluetooth headphones idea behing the missing socket, but practically speaking surely a headphone socket is a very handy thing to have. Other examples might include no mudgards on new bicycles (rear mudgards used to protect your trousers/bum from getting soaked on a wet day), yet nowadays many new bikes have no mudgards!

Any other suggestions?

http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/247677/3-5mm-headphone-port-lightning-acessory-tsh02jc.jpg

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Sometimes I go stand outside my local church and stare menacingly at old ladies walking out once its finished. :mad:

The_Valeyard

Air travel. The loss Of The Concorde set back air speed a good bit. At least it could be making a comeback.

Atlantic Dawn

No spare wheels as standard in lots of new cars.
Cars with keyless ignition where the keys can be easily cloned and car stolen, what was so difficult about needing to put your much more secure key in to the ignition to start the car?
Phones with no FM radio.

riffmongous

cbyrd wrote: »

The new way to pay with your card ... Contactless payment. the pin was put there to protect you from anyone skimming money if you lost your card. I know it's only E30 a go but ten shops later .. that's a good days haul..

Is there also not a monthly limit? There is on mine I think because after a while I wasn't able to use it anymore, it wasn't very much either, maybe around 100-200 euro

From my understanding of it, I'd say digital versus analog synthesisers

Littlehorny

Some Merc, Audi amd Beemer cars now don't have oil dipsticks. Toatal scam to make you go to the main dealers to get rode. You can ruin an engine if its too low or too high in oil.

riffmongous

Laika123 wrote: »

http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/247677/3-5mm-headphone-port-lightning-acessory-tsh02jc.jpg

That's pretty awkward looking

Allinall

I bought 3 pairs of underpants in M&S, and only when I opened the pack at home did I discover there was no "fly" in them.

I mean- WTF?

Laika123

riffmongous wrote: »

That's pretty awkward looking

Yea I suppose, but after using it for a while you'll definitely buy the Apple TM ones, won't you.

Also how can you charge it while listening to music?



Actually these look cool.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaltrends-uploads-prod/2016/03/iphone-7-airpods.jpg

LordSutch

Analogue Hi Fi sounded better than digital in my opinion. A good old turntable, amp & speakers just sounded better/with more punch! Yes, CD & MP3 is so much more portable and convienient, but 'sound wise' I can't help thinking we've taken a backward step at the top end of Hi Fi sound.

riffmongous

Laika123 wrote: »

Yea I suppose, but after using it for a while you'll definitely buy the Apple TM ones, won't you.

:pac:

namloc1980

cbyrd wrote: »

The new way to pay with your card ... Contactless payment. the pin was put there to protect you from anyone skimming money if you lost your card. I know it's only E30 a go but ten shops later .. that's a good days haul..

Contactless fraud is only a fraction of the old fashioned skimming. You're card has to be stolen from you for someone to use the Contactless and the banks have measures in place to detect fraud. Apart from you reporting your card stolen/lost any unusual spending like 5 Contactless transactions in a row in quick succession will mean subsequent transactions even under the €30 limit will ask for a pin.

Whereas with traditional card skimming the victim won't even know. They'll still have their card and you'd be amazed how little people pay attention to the activity in their bank account. Plus there's no €30 limit on this type of activity. Fraudsters can make off with alot more.

Laika123

Public Transport, in the 1890's all the trams in Dublin were electric, then they were done away with for fossil fuels, then we got the DART and LUAS, we did a full circle.

Laika123

namloc1980 wrote: »

Contactless fraud is only a fraction of the old fashioned skimming. You're card has to be stolen from you for someone to use the Contactless and the banks have measures in place to detect fraud. Apart from you reporting your card stolen/lost any unusual spending like 5 Contactless transactions in a row in quick succession will mean subsequent transactions even under the €30 limit will ask for a pin.

Whereas with traditional card skimming the victim won't even know. They'll still have their card and you'd be amazed how little people pay attention to the activity in their bank account. Plus there's no €30 limit on this type of activity. Fraudsters can make off with alot more.

It will be the same with contactless cards sooner, if not already, the card has an RFID or NFC chip which could easily be cloned while still in your pocket.




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifXMV8PLYM

Turtyturd

VR technology for gaming.

I want to crash out on my sofa in front of my TV and play games. If you can offer me an experience like the X-Men's Danger Room, or the Enterprises holodeck I might be interested but till then your expensive goggles are just an annoyance.

Sprog 4

LordSutch wrote: »

... with an adapter.

You need an iDapter. Only €75.

LordSutch

^ well exactly, a backwards step.

mfceiling

Littlehorny wrote: »

Some Merc, Audi amd Beemer cars now don't have oil dipsticks. Toatal scam to make you go to the main dealers to get rode. You can ruin an engine if its too low or too high in oil.

Or you can order a dipstick for them. Or you can check it using the on board computer.

Uriel.

Laika123 wrote: »

It will be the same with contactless cards sooner, if not already, the card has an RFID or NFC chip which could easily be cloned while still in your pocket.

Get a SecurIT wallet so, protects against this.

ShooterSF

Removable batteries. Getting harder and harder to buy a flagship phone with one. Power users are the exact people who need to be able to carry swap-able batteries. Reason I'm still with LG.

Laika123

Uriel. wrote: »

Get a SecurIT wallet so, protects against this.

Still a step backwards?

Laika123

ShooterSF wrote: »

Removable batteries. Getting harder and harder to buy a flagship phone with one. Power users are the exact people who need to be able to carry swap-able batteries. Reason I'm still with LG.

USB power bank?

eman66

"Responsive" web sites.

Laika123

moc moc a moc wrote: »

Try buying men's underpants in future

Class LOL

eamonnq

Turtyturd wrote: »

VR technology for gaming.

I want to crash out on my sofa in front of my TV and play games. If you can offer me an experience like the X-Men's Danger Room, or the Enterprises holodeck I might be interested but till then your expensive goggles are just an annoyance.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VR-BOX-2-Virtual-Reality-Bluetooth-3-0-Remote-Controller-Google-Cardboard-3D-Glasses-Compatible-3/32665044285.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.1.tyGMrv&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_0,searchweb201602_2_10057_10056_10065_10068_10055_10054_10069_301_10059_10033_10058_10032_10073_10017_10070_10060_10061_10052_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=6134ead3-91d8-415c-8477-bc197abd8431

Cheap and cheerful, suprisingly good, better if your phone has a Gyroscope!!

Atoms for Peace

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Air travel. The loss Of The Concorde set back air speed a good bit. At least it could be making a comeback.

The old Boeing clipper seaplanes and zeppelins seemed far more civilised methods of air travel than the equivelent we have today.

thecraicaddict

Self service checkouts are a step backwards. Most annoying things around.

For Forks Sake

thecraicaddict wrote: »

Self service checkouts are a step backwards. Most annoying things around.

Unknown item in bagging area.

thecraicaddict

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Unknown item in bagging area.

I scanned a loaf of bread about a week ago, and the machine never picked up on it so it triggered that annoying voice when I put it on the left hand side. Next thing you know some angry polish woman comes over and starts accusing me of trying to steal off them.

riffmongous

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Unknown item in bagging area.

Up there with 'STAND CLEAR, LUGGAGE DOORS OPERATE' in sounds that will haunt me for eternity

Atlantic Dawn

thecraicaddict wrote: »

Self service checkouts are a step backwards. Most annoying things around.

I can't understand why there isn't a conveyor belt style automatic checkout where you throw all your items on, they are scanned automatically via an airport style security scanner to scan the barcodes and you simply walk to the end and pay? Surely that's basic tech using all existing technologies?

Senna

Loads of things car related, it's not a development advancement that you have to remove the bumper just to change a light bulb in some cars.
What was once controlled by a wire is now thousands of electronic circuits that if broken require a laptop and usually a degree of luck to diagnose.

ShooterSF

Laika123 wrote: »

USB power bank?

Are ok, but it's still a step backwards. As now instead of having a dead battery in my pocket while I continue to play games/watch video/take photos on a night out, I have this thing dangling out of my phone using one battery to power another battery. It is way less convenient.

For Forks Sake

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I can't understand why there isn't a conveyor belt style automatic checkout where you throw all your items on, they are scanned automatically via an airport style security scanner to scan the barcodes and you simply walk to the end and pay? Surely that's basic tech using all existing technologies?

Tesco have gone one better in South Korea and cut out the need for actual stock, or checkouts... http://www.businesstoday.in/magazine/lbs-case-study/case-study-tesco-virtually-created-new-market-based-on-country-lifestyle/story/214998.html

LordSutch

Senna wrote: »

Loads of things car related, it's not a development advancement that you have to remove the bumper just to change a light bulb in some cars.

My Dad used to say that getting rid of the 'starting handle' was a real backward/retrograde step!

https://youtu.be/BjLiGqC_YsI

I guess it was a great feature if the car had a flat battery, no jump leads or donor battery needed, just a few turns of the handle & you were off .....

razorblunt

Some phones seem to be getting bigger and bigger, it's like walking around with a laptop in your pocket.

LordSutch

razorblunt wrote: »

Some phones seem to be getting bigger and bigger, it's like walking around with a laptop in your pocket.

You mean like getting back to the 1980s brick size mobiles, but thinner )

Widdershins

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

No spare wheels as standard in lots of new cars.
Cars with keyless ignition where the keys can be easily cloned and car stolen, what was so difficult about needing to put your much more secure key in to the ignition to start the car?
Phones with no FM radio.

Is it a card that you use instead of a key? Hate the idea of them

Widdershins

Senna wrote: »

Loads of things car related, it's not a development advancement that you have to remove the bumper just to change a light bulb in some cars.
What was once controlled by a wire is now thousands of electronic circuits that if broken require a laptop and usually a degree of luck to diagnose.

And some stupid sensor 'goes' and messes the whole thing up.

Permabear

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Tin Foil Hat

LordSutch wrote: »

I may not have explained myself properly in the title, but what I'm refering to is the likes of the missing headphone socket on the new iPhone = A backwards step?

I totally understand the (waterproof) bluetooth headphones idea behing the missing socket, but practically speaking surely a headphone socket is a very handy thing to have. Other examples might include no mudgards on new bicycles (rear mudgards used to protect your trousers/bum from getting soaked on a wet day), yet nowadays many new bikes have no mudgards!

Any other suggestions?

They used to be able to make appliances that lasted for decades. Now you can't buy a washing machine that will outlast some of the clothes that go into it.

B.A._Baracus

eman66 wrote: »

"Responsive" web sites.

How are responsive websites going backwards tho?
If you separate your website into two (that being a desktop version and mobile version) you will have to update content on both versions. More work.

Tin Foil Hat

Super thin TV's are my biggest bug-bear. You can make a good screen a centimetre thick, but you can't make a decent speaker that size. But it saves on production costs and sells sound bars, so I'm guessing we're stuck with them. :mad:

Atlantic Dawn

Widdershins wrote: »

Is it a card that you use instead of a key? Hate the idea of them

Yes it's a small fob or square plastic card, when you have it on your person the doors of the car open and the car starts by pressing a button.

B.A._Baracus

thecraicaddict wrote: »

Self service checkouts are a step backwards. Most annoying things around.

I am actually surprised Lidl or Aldi haven't adopted these yet. I mean we're talking about the German efficiency both companies incorporated which is mental. Such as having the products packaged in boxes that the top can be easily ripped off and plopped on the shelf. You'd think self-service would be right up their alley.

PopePalpatine

Permabear wrote: »

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Ugh, tell me about it. It was the one thing which put me off upgrading to Windows 10 on my laptop.