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PS2 Via LCD Monitor ....?
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05-09-2016 4:04pm#1
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You can connect it if it takes scart or component.
You could use a hdmi converter to convert the signal to a hdmi signal but these are always horrendous for games, adding so much lag games are near unplayable.
The only real option is a xrgb framemeister but they are an enthusiast piece of equipment and carry an enthusiast price tag.
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Hmm. Thanks, Retr0gamer. What ye said there obviously made sense to you
I've no idea if my PS2 takes a Scart ~ I have a vague idea of what they are. I haven't looked at, or touched, my PS in years.
I Do know my Acer K222HQL screen doesn't. So, that's out the window.
HDMI Converter? " Unplayable ". We think not so.
" The only real option is a xrgb framemeister but they are an enthusiast piece of equipment and carry an enthusiast price tag. "
Okay. No idea what that price might be. But, knowing my luck, my PS2 would then burn out in short order anyway. My luck's like that
You obviously know ye stuff though. May I run This past ye, please ....?
Just been on the phone to my younger friend. I had the sense I was flogging a dead horse, with the old PS2. I'd googled PS3.
Seems I can get a second hand one, 12 month guarantee, for about a ton? And those are far more PC Screen compatible? He mentioned some gadget .....
What ye reckon? That a plan?
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The device is probably a vga or hdmi converter. A vga converter will give you via picture which will work on a PC monitor but you'll need a separate sound system, via does not carry sound.
HDMI will be a converter I'm talking about and will introduce a lot of lag.
Might be better off getting a PS3 which has hdmi out of the box.
Make sure your screen has sound!
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Make sure your screen has sound!
Nightmare! :eek: I bought this screen weeks ago! My sound comes through speakers, plugged into my desk top pc.
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Nightmare! :eek: I bought this screen weeks ago! My sound comes through speakers, plugged into my desk top pc.
Am I doomed?!?
Yes, doomed forever!
If you have a desktop pc and its halfway decent you could just go down the route of getting a ps2 emulator (google it) and playing the games that way. That's only for ps1 and ps2 though, don't think there's one that will run ps3 games. Other than that the hdmi converter, I don't know how bad the lag would to be honest. But you still have no sound. Even with a ps3 you're going to have a problem because the monitor doesn't have speakers. There is an optical out on the ps3, it might work depending on your speakers...probably not though. An emulator on the pc or a different monitor/tv, I think0 -
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Okay. Cheers, lads. It'd be fair to say that just about everything said on this thread has sailed straight over my, white bearded, head
This whole, sound, issue is bugging me. Is there a sound hole in this screen? Dunno. I had no reason to look for one, at the time. Speakers could be plugged into the thing, as I type, for all I know. I don't remember what I did to set it up.
No matter. Thanks. I can now direct my young friend here. He can have a look at all this and, I'm sure, it'll all make better sense to him.
Bit incredible though, isn't it? In this day and age, one might have to have a television in order to play with a ~ to my mind ~ completely computer oriented machine.
Bit like one of these Tesla motors coming with a Starting Handle :pac:0 -
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However, this cable won't carry sound, so you'll need separate speakers with a composite or optical connector for audio.
DVI definitely carries sound. I was using DVI on my monitor a few years ago and it was carrying sound to the monitor. I'm pretty sure it's just HDMI with a different PIN out and a simple converter will change it from HDMI to DVI (which I used as well to attach a div to a HDMI TV, got sound from that as well).
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You might be better off getting a cheap 22" TV with scart and connecting the PS2 to that. Good god! That's exactly what my adviser said, last night. The sick thing is; I already have this bloody great TV stuck to my wall. Only, I swept a load of dust into it, and that triggered some malfunction. It's like a cut off fuse gets too hot. Switch it on and it switches itself off again.
Anyway, I've sent my man a link to this discussion. Hopefully, he'll be better able to understand all this techie talk and figure something out off the back of all this input.0 -
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If you want good picture quality from your PS2 it's worth investing in a RGB scart cable or Component cable, you can get them cheap on ebay and they make a massive difference to picture quality.
The composite cables (red white and yellow cables) are atrocious and will look awful on a LCD TV.
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Okay, lads. I was in town, today. Second hand shop there has a TV. Probably about a 14" screen? There abouts. Heavy lump of a thing too. Cathode Ray jobby. None of ye flat screen, feather weights. €40.00.
I would have bought it ~ come home and been playing PS2 games right now. But, I wanted to see if there was any leads, or box I could buy, to make my PS2 work on this screen. There's not, is there
Just spoke to my man, at this end. He's seen this thread and agrees: Buy the TV.
This screen is safe, wedged into my work station. Argos do a 20" Flat, €155.00. €30.00 taxi fare to get there. And I have a Dog here who's dislodge that on day one.
PS3? I could get one for around €100.00. Just as useless, with this screen. I'd still need the TV.
Soooo ..... Might as well stick with my PS2 then. For which I have a rake of games on the shelf too.
There. Just called the taxi and arranged to have him go get the TV, tomorrow. I should be playing by this time tomorrow
Many thanks for everyone's brain storming and input. Really is very much appreciated. Now that it's been so thoroughly thrashed out, I can move on.
Funny. It may be telling that the guy in the shop said he'd sold all his other TV's. " People want them for playing games on. "
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Damn
Sorry I'm late to this party!
A nice Sony trinitron CRT is great for consoles like the PS2.
The PS2 can output via an RGB cable to deliver a cracking image to the likes of the Sony set, but not all CRTs can display an RGB image
The console will always look better on a CRT, as displayed on an LCD, they tend to look ass
A Sony CRT, 14", should cost anything from €25 to free on Adverts, they have a lovely flat display and, outside of specialist displays, look the best.
Something like this
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Ciderman! Hah. Someone to, perhaps, have a bit of sympathy for a broken man?
I've just got off the phone, from my local Play Station geek. See, I've gone back into town and bought the TV they had there. €40.00 for a 20" job. Not cheap, of course. But, available.
It's a WELLTECH 40624.
Didn't have a remote with it. I never really thought about that. The shop was dark and I could barely see the set. But, John said it worked and he's not gonna lie.
Came scuttling back (In the taxi, mind. Costs me a tenner in and a tenner out. Now, my TV's cost me €60.00 then) Blah, blah, blah. Much shuffling of gear. Dogs desperately trying to find a way of helping / getting in my way and enraging me further. Copious sweat .....
tldr? Rang my mate and asked him what channel I had to get PS2 up on. Told him the ones I was getting, by clicking buttons. He reckons I must need a remote control to get at the right one. I don't Have a remote control. Universal Remote Control would be in Ann's shop. In town. €20.00 away. Tomorrow .....
Is my disappointment thickly enough tangible? No " Conflict: Desert Storm 2 " for me, tonight then. Gutted!!! 0 -
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Jesus H Christ you are using a RF connector!
Get a RGB scart cable and join the 90's instead of the 70's:
No tuning in channels and you'll have vastly superior video quality, seriously RF is utter ****e.
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-av-accessories/sony-playstation/sony-playstation-1-2-ps1-ps2-rgb-scart-cable-lead
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The PS2 can output via an RGB cable to deliver a cracking image to the likes of the Sony set, but not all CRTs can display an RGB imageRetr0gamer wrote: »Get a RGB scart cable and join the 90's instead of the 70's:
Link came up as gone. How may I know it This CRT will work on RGB? And, where should I get this RGB. There's bound to be utter crappers out there .....
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That's the one. Get that. The increase in visual quality and the fact you won't have to tune in the TV every time means it is the best 15 euro you will spend. That guy makes great cables as well, very good quality. There's some cowboys out there selling cheaper ones that are piss poor.
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:cool: Cool!
I have my mate, ready to look in his shed, tomorrow. Reckons he may have an RGB Scart in there. If so, I'll take his fcuking hand off, obviously, what ever make or quality.
Because, that will test Cidermans assertion that not All CRT's can work with them.
If mine does? I'll send for this high end one to replace what ever my mate may dig out.
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If it has a scart connector it will work.
A PS1 or a PS2 or PS3 scart connector will work.
Also this is not scart, its composite:
It will give a slight improvement over RF but scart is a massive jump over composite.
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Now; I have those plugs. Red, White and Yellow. I have corresponding holes in the side of the TV. Tried that. Nope.
My PS2 scart has holes in the back those pins go in. That goes in the TV. Nope.
It's got to be this RGB. Or, a remote control (I know where to get one). Else it's the pump action and another of my You Tube clips! 0 -
Just to put this one to bed; The PS2 is dead
Long Live The PS3!!!
Seriously. I finally got the PS2 fired up. Managed to get my hands on a Universal Remote and hacked into AV, on my CRT TV. Got the dreaded Disc Read Error. Gutted!
What's a man to do? Fcuk it. I dashed out and bought me a PS3! Then things got good! :eek:
Despite the assurances, from the wombat in the shop, that, yes, sir. This box contains a scart and it will play on your old box. I got all the long way home to discover it only had a twin HDMI lead in there!!!
I won't bore ye with the details. Suffice it to say that I actually rang my mate, to ask him to pick me up a €150.00 HDMI compatible TV on his way back. But, he'd passed the shop and was motoring.
I honestly don't know what happened next. But, I somehow got the message that my old PS2 lead should work ..........
Well, I've stopped shaking now
Had to come and write this, just to calm myself down a little. I'm in some god forsaken sh1t hole, somewhere in Africa. We've got the War Lord. But, his remaining boys are putting up a hell of a fight as we try to exfil to the chopper! 0 -
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Errr ...... I see I've invented the thread that'll never die!
Dunno. Ye have to realise, I'm like a kiddie in a sweet shop, yet. I'm actually trying hard to even drip feed all my questions onto here. Else I'll be like Keemos, from AH. I'd need my own questions thread!
That aside though? I now have high hopes of actually being able to reinstate my old PS2. It's pretty clearly just dust. Compressed air could even sort it, just by pushing what's probably a thick layer out of it. Laser eye's probably covered in it.
But, I digress. As usual. Hmm; So; I need to A/ Sort my PS2. B/ Get those RGB cables. C/ Get a new TV, to give me the true benefit of my PS3. This one, Perhaps?
I'm thinking clearer, now. Now that I at least have a PS
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Your PS2 is toast. The laser in them is held together by the sheer optimism of the Sony engineers and they are notoriously crappy. Been through 4 PS2 consoles now.
You need to get yourself a HDMI cable for the PS3. If you are using the red yellow and white cable it's going to look absolutely ****e on a flat panel screen. A PS2 with RGB will look great on a CRT but a PS3 can do much higher resolutions and only flat panel screens support them with a HDMI cable. Get a cheap HDMI cable, hook it up and set the console to output 1080p and prepare to have your mind blown.
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Retr0gamer wrote: »Your PS2 is toast. The laser in them is held together by the sheer optimism of the Sony engineers ..... Oh. That's a bit grim! Okay. Going on what else ye've said then? I'll try cleaning / fixing my 2. Because I'm born of an age when people Tried.
Failing that? I'll give this great lump of a CRT TV back to the second hand shop and shall buy the Bush baby I eluded to above
Believe me; When I saw this game on a proper screen ~ on the tube? It was like I'd been playing it with my eyes scrunched up!0 -
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Oh. That's a bit grim! Okay. Going on what else ye've said then? I'll try cleaning / fixing my 2. Because I'm born of an age when people Tried.
Trust me, I've tried as well. It was such a big problem that the US government won a class law suit against Sony because of it. You can mess around with adjusting the laser pot but it's a huge amount of fiddly work and it's only a temporary fix, the laser will be gone again in less than a month. If you really want to fix it you could buy a replacement laser drive but a new PS2 is probably the same price.
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God, that's a bummer! And, granted, I Hate fiddly work. Haven't got the eyes or hands for it, these days. Just watched a video and figured I could manage it, if I took deep breaths. Sounds like it'd only lead to further heart ache though.
Okay; Next idea! (And, feel free to tell me, and I'll scrap this post and open a fresh thread for it) I see they used to do these 2 memory card to 3 drive things?
People said they worked. But, now? They're practically off the market. Unless I'd shell out €50.00+ for one. From USA. I have one, 8MB 2 card. Half a dozen things on it.
What's the chances of anyone having a converter box I could hire? Just to save this one card ~ and my entire life on PS2 ~ to this thing I have now?0
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