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Shannon Dry Cleaners fire

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    #62
    Redhairedguy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭Redhairedguy


    seimispook wrote: »
    I don't really have time to mull over there thread, but have they ruled out any maliciousness?

    Wasn't aware it was actually on the table... I'm sure we'd have heard something at this stage though...?


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    #63
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    They pretty much said after the early initial investigation that they were happy enough that it was accidental.


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    #64
    CINCLANTFLT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭CINCLANTFLT


    Where does this leave me and my suits and coat?


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    #65
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    CINCLANTFLT wrote: »
    Where does this leave me and my suits and coat?

    Why not ask them and you may find out?


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    #66
    wandatowell
    Registered Users Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    gordongekko wrote: »
    They would have insurance. But that might be his lucky suit.

    One of my in-laws lost a suit when a a dry cleaners when up in flames. They told him to claim for it on his own insurance and when he refused he ended up getting pittance.

    Hardly worth the effort.


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    #67
    Mearings
    Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Mearings


    I had a blue suit in the cleaners now it's charcoal gray.


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    #68
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    wandatowell wrote: »
    One of my in-laws lost a suit when a a dry cleaners when up in flames. They told him to claim for it on his own insurance and when he refused he ended up getting pittance.

    Hardly worth the effort.

    Customers were asked to do likewise in this case too. Not sure of the outcome.


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    #69
    Bobeagleburger
    Registered Users Posts: 45,268 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    xtradel wrote: »
    It's not even 5 pages :confused:

    It's not even 2 you mean :)


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    #70
    gordongekko
    Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    seimispook wrote: »
    I don't really have time to mull over there thread, but have they ruled out any maliciousness?

    I've read through the thread for you and i cant see any malicious posts.


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    #71
    evoke
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭evoke


    does anyone know if they are going to rebuild the place as it was or a bigger building?


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    #72
    GerardKeating
    Registered Users Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    evoke wrote: »
    does anyone know if they are going to rebuild the place as it was or a bigger building?

    As far as I know, they have not applied for any planning permission for a rebuild yet.


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    #73
    joeKel73
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    evoke wrote: »
    does anyone know if they are going to rebuild the place as it was or a bigger building?

    Insurance policies generally dictate a like-for-like replacement or they don't cover it.


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    #74
    cancun5
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭cancun5


    Hi I'm just wondering if you have had any progress with your claim? I too left my wedding dress in there unfortunately and it seems to be a very slow process with very little contact. Is the matter still under investigation??


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    #75
    Shooter_galway
    Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Shooter_galway


    Received my claim today for an item I had in there absolutely raging a suit that was a few months old and 25% of the value received.. will be getting on to someone about that


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    #76
    cancun5
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭cancun5


    Shooter_galway wrote: »
    Received my claim today for an item I had in there absolutely raging a suit that was a few months old and 25% of the value received.. will be getting on to someone about that

    That doesn't seem right at all. I assume you had receipts etc. to prove value. I didn't check my post today so hoping I have heard something. Although will be extremely unimpressed if I receive similar. Not good enough service or response for their customers.


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    #77
    Shooter_galway
    Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Shooter_galway


    Had receipts and all!! Was bought as an Xmas present and worn once to a wedding week before it happened..

    Not impressed at all, I assume the will lowball offers to minimise payouts but I'd be extremely reluctant to accept that payment


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    #78
    Sanbaby1
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Sanbaby1


    I had my wedding dress in here as well got offered 400 yest for dress that cost 1600. Know a woman who had a 400 suit in there and got 250. How is this fair! I only got married one week previous I'm devasted. I sent the cheque straight back and will go to small claims court if needs be!


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    #79
    LoonyLovegood
    Moderators, Music Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 6,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    Just remember, these offers aren't coming from Shannons, they're coming directly from the insurance company. I'm pretty sure they'd want to compensate everyone fully if they were able to.


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    #80
    CINCLANTFLT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭CINCLANTFLT


    LoonyLovegood wrote: »
    Just remember, these offers aren't coming from Shannons, they're coming directly from the insurance company. I'm pretty sure they'd want to compensate everyone fully if they were able to.

    Do you need to declare some interest here or are you just dropping by with this information... after what I was offered I'm disappointed... maybe Shannons shouldn't be hiding behind the insurance company... I know who won't be getting any more business from me...


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    #81
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    The question here is not the payout for the loss but the size of the payout.

    It's like any insured item, take your car for example, it doesn't really matter how much you value your car for, if you need to claim, the insurance company will only pay what they deem to be the market value at the time of the claim.

    I'm sure the same is true for most insured items and I'd imagine there are standard guidelines they use for determining the amount.

    While those that have received offers for their losses in the cleaners fire and they do seem very low, it is probably as good as it's going to get unfortunately.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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    #82
    Unrealistic
    Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Either they insured customers property or they didn't.
    It's not quite that straightforward. There are a number of variables that could be at play. One is the total amount insured and whether it is sufficient to cover the actual losses. Another, probably more relevant in this situation, is whether the terms of the insurance cover compensation at replacement cost or depreciated cost. The former is more expensive because it means that someone who lost a suit gets paid the cost of a new suit. The latter means the insurance company decides how much the used suit it worth and pays out accordingly.


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    #83
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,697 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Every time I've taken out insurance for anything, I checked the terms and conditions.

    Sometimes, I chose to take out full replacement value cover (eg for my house, the terms of the leasehold and mortgage require that). Sometime I only take out cover for the current market value.

    Businesses do this to. They choose what level of cover to take.


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    #84
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Some stuff removed that may be dodgy legally


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    #85
    Sanbaby1
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Sanbaby1


    Anyone receive another offer? I hear there's more out as a lot declined first offer. Haven't heard anything yet myself since!


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    #86
    Kar_M
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭Kar_M


    Sanbaby1 wrote: »
    Anyone receive another offer? I hear there's more out as a lot declined first offer. Haven't heard anything yet myself since!

    I declined the first offer and they offered me a further €136 extra via a not so nice solicitors letter!


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    #87
    gtown girl
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭gtown girl


    I lost my wedding dress in the fire too , and declined the first insulting offer, then they offered me a further 140 in an infuriating solicitors letter that has me seeing red!!
    Quote:
    "your wedding dress, although special to you, was a second hand dry cleaned dress and obviously would have a much reduced value"

    In stark contrast to their website descriptions of wedding dresses : 
    [font=arial, sans-serif] [/font][font=arial, sans-serif]"your fondest keepsake"  "a beautiful reminder of the occasion"[/font]  "preserve your fondest wedding memory"
    Has anyone received any sort of apology from Shannon Dry Cleaners? I have contacted them twice and been ignored. 
    I am aware that they also suffered a loss, however they should at least issue an apology for the distress the incident has caused for their customers. Non existent customer service or regard for their customers. 
    I will never use them again, and definitely wont recommend them to anyone , not because of the fire but because the callus treatment I've received since.


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    #88
    fergiesfolly
    Registered Users Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    gtown girl wrote: »
    I lost my wedding dress in the fire too , and declined the first insulting offer, then they offered me a further 140 in an infuriating solicitors letter that has me seeing red!!
    Quote:
    "your wedding dress, although special to you, was a second hand dry cleaned dress and obviously would have a much reduced value"

    In stark contrast to their website descriptions of wedding dresses : 
    [font=arial, sans-serif] [/font][font=arial, sans-serif]"your fondest keepsake"  "a beautiful reminder of the occasion"[/font]  "preserve your fondest wedding memory"
    Has anyone received any sort of apology from Shannon Dry Cleaners? I have contacted them twice and been ignored. 
    I am aware that they also suffered a loss, however they should at least issue an apology for the distress the incident has caused for their customers. Non existent customer service or regard for their customers. 
    I will never use them again, and definitely wont recommend them to anyone , not because of the fire but because the callus treatment I've received since.

    Seeing as there's planning permission in to build a hotel on that site, I'd say they've well moved on.
    I would recommend to anyone who feels hard done by, to play hardball and squeeze as much out as possible.


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    #89
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    http://connachttribune.ie/planners-brand-bohermore-hotel-design-overbearing-139/
    bohermore-hotel.jpg


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    #90
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,697 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    A hotel on that site with only 11 parking spaces! Ahh ... that was clearly the 1st version of the plan written to get people thinking, the next one will be more what they expect to build. There's no way they would operate like that without having significant coach loading and unloading facilities.

    And ...you say "overbearing". I say "iconic" ...


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    #91
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    A hotel on that site with only 11 parking spaces! Ahh ... that was clearly the 1st version of the plan written to get people thinking, the next one will be more what they expect to build. There's no way they would operate like that without having significant coach loading and unloading facilities.

    And ...you say "overbearing". I say "iconic" ...

    It's worse looking than any of the currently derelict buildings. They must be thin trees to fit on the path outside too.


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